DEF CON FAQ v.0.91 Now On Line

[Dark Tangent]

OK, your feed back has been included, and another update pass has occured. Also Black Beetle has HTMLorized it, and posted it on line.

Follow the link...

http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-faq/faqv91.html

[Dark Tangent]

I know it is not perfect.. I'll keep adding to it and post up version 1.0 here and ask for more comments.

I'll be checking out the Rive again next week, and I think Grifter found a spot for us to do all night activities in that won't piss off the other guests.

Also, I'd like to ask for opinions on how to use the space at the hotel. Specifically how to use all of the sky boxes. I was thinking of having different hacking groups reserve them on the condition that they are responsible for the space, and that they have to let the public in and hang out. That way there can be demos from the various groups showing off their work, and get more people involved. Just a thought.

Merry almost new-year.

[renderman]

I'll be checking out the Rive again next week, and I think Grifter found a spot for us to do all night activities in that won't piss off the other guests.

Will the DJ's be allowed to ply thier craft in said area?

Also, I'd like to ask for opinions on how to use the space at the hotel. Specifically how to use all of the sky boxes. I was thinking of having different hacking groups reserve them on the condition that they are responsible for the space, and that they have to let the public in and hang out. That way there can be demos from the various groups showing off their work, and get more people involved. Just a thought.

Merry almost new-year.

Not having seen the sky boxes and going from descriptions, I think that handing out access based on poropsals for use, much like you mentioned. Got a project or idea for using the space, submit it and either through goon selection or on the forum here, select who gets what space. Maybe Kaminsky can have a good elevated position to do whatever it was he wanted to do with lasers last year.

[TheCotMan]

how to use all of the sky boxes.

Breakout Session space for individuals/groups that want to offer private, invite-only, or open to capacity/first-come-first-served, presentations or "classes." (Are they big enough for this?)

This would need organization and some sort of reservation system, and then need a way to let people know of changes to rooms/times.

[renderman]

Breakout Session space for individuals/groups that want to offer private, invite-only, or open to capacity/first-come-first-served, presentations or "classes." (Are they big enough for this?)

This would need organization and some sort of reservation system, and then need a way to let people know of changes to rooms/times.

Hands on, extended sessions (I know the lockpick people would love to have a room for all thier boards, etc.)

[kallahar]

I'd say let each group (any) submit a propsal for what they want to do with the room, then assign them a few months before con so that they have time to prepare. It would also be good to know which boxes will overlook which convention space since noise will be an issue for some groups.

[LosT]

I like the idea of the breakout sessions- any idea if we can solder in there :) ?

Hands on presentations would be excellent-

Such as hardware, TCP/IP devices, etc...

LosT

[TheCotMan]

Comments on the FAQ:

faq (http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-faq/faqv91.html)
The call for papers opens before the end of 2005—start working on your submission now.
Tick-tick-tick... any word on the CFP? Another member asked about this the other day.

How much do rooms at the Riviera cost, and how do I reserve a room?
The Riviera has reservations online (limited to 3-4 months from "now") or over the phone (800) 634-6753. Room Rates are "flat-fee" based on quantity of occupants. $92+T(~$100.28) with 1 or 2 people, $112+T(~$122.08) with 3 or 4 people. Priority for room assignment when you say you're with DefCon is "Deluxe" when making reservations on the phone.

Probably my fault on this. When I spoke to them on the phone, they siad DefCon people will be given priority to Deluxe rooms, BUT I did not initially post that that is only done at checkin, or when they pre-assign rooms, if they pre-assign rooms for some reason. This means people arriving early in the week with "DefCon reservations" will probably get Deluxe rooms first, and people arriving on Friday eve. may not get Deluxe Rooms if the hotel runs out of these rooms.

Thanks to Deviant Ollam's correction here that made this point clear.

[LosT]

Any word on soldering in breakout sessions? Or are we heading for breadboard only?

Who would we check with? Or do we simply have to go "private"?

LosT

[Neural]

Any word on soldering in breakout sessions? Or are we heading for breadboard only?

Who would we check with? Or do we simply have to go "private"?

LosT

Maybe I'll just pick up a few of those cold heat soldering irons you see on tv for $19.95 each. No burns. No mess

[Deviant Ollam]

Maybe I'll just pick up a few of those cold heat soldering irons you see on tv for $19.95 each. No burns. No messi've heard that those suck. never used personally, tho. ymmv.

[Thorn]

Actually, they're pretty amazing. The problem I have is that the tip is ENORMUS for PCB work, although I heard last week that a small tip can be ordered off the website.

[LosT]

Yes, tip is quite large...

Can be brittle...also can destroy certain parts (it uses the tip as a bridge for current flow....)-

I guess they figure the part would have to be large enough to be used with this iron, and parts that large are pretty robust :)

LosT

[AlxRogan]

Actually, they're pretty amazing. The problem I have is that the tip is ENORMUS for PCB work, although I heard last week that a small tip can be ordered off the website.
Don't know about the small tip, but a friend of mine makes his own guitar amps and musical equipment. He picked up one of these cold heat guns, and says they work great for macro work, and quick fixes. Not sure about long-term and very precise, but just wanted to pass that along.

[Thorn]

Don't know about the small tip, but a friend of mine makes his own guitar amps and musical equipment. He picked up one of these cold heat guns, and says they work great for macro work, and quick fixes. Not sure about long-term and very precise, but just wanted to pass that along.I like mine, with the exception of the tip size. Apparently they also now have a new "Pro" model: http://www.coldheat.com/products.cfm

Tips and accessories: http://www.coldheat.com/products.cfm?section=accessories

[yamamushi]

This is probably a stupid question, but do you have to be 18 to reserve a room if you will be 18 when you actually stay in it?

[TheCotMan]

This is probably a stupid question, but do you have to be 18 to reserve a room if you will be 18 when you actually stay in it?

At this time, technically, The FAQ (http://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-faq/faqv91.html) says "You will have to be 18 to reserve a room," but they (Hotel Reservation people) don't ask you how old you are when you reserve a room. (If anyone else finds otherwise, please say so.) If they ask you how old you are, it will probably be at check-in. You will probably need a credit card for them to reserve the room, and if you cancel, according to Denny2000 there is a cancellation fee of something like $14.

An e-mail has been sent to The Riviera Reservation dept to verify minimum age is required at check-in vs. reservation.

I've moved this to the FAQ thread so additions to the FAQ may be considered:
* "18 or older" is not for reservation, it is for check-in (See e-mail response below for confirmation.)
* $14 cancellation fee notice could be included with the cost

AddedContent:
I received a response, and since the answer is for the public, I see no reason to be limited by any "expectation of privacy"
From: [removed]@theriviera.com
Hello;

They can make there reservation as long as they are 18 when checking in. They
will need there ID.

Thank you,
[removed]

Spelling mistakes remain in quoted text, but E-mail address and signed name removed. The original e-mail response is archived in my inbox.

[astcell]

I remember at the AP there was bragging that the Defcon drowd drank more alcohol than any other group that stayed there, breaking the record of the RAF. So what is the record of the new place that we have to beat?

[TheCotMan]

Closed. New FAQ announcement opened here.
If you have comments/questions about the FAQ, please direct them to the most recent FAQ announcement thread(s).