Call For DJs bands and ideas [Archive]

zziks

05-20-2007, 04:17 AM

Hello all . Not nany know me, but I have been Binks #2 for B&W since DC8 .

I am in contact with him . and we will be Hammering out the B&W Very soon .

He has given control of booking Bands, DJs and general chaos on stage for the ball
.( he wants to focus on the technical production side )

That being said I am interested in getting some fresh ideas concerning acts for B&W . please post those ideas here

If you would like to possibly DJ/Perform , Be sure to have a demo set in mp3, wma or ogg format . Then PM me for further information.(15minutes or less please)

Hopefully in the next few days I can dig up bink from work and sit down w/ him and get all this figured out .

more to come
Zz...

hackajar

05-20-2007, 05:39 AM

Nerdcore seems to be a growing idea at this years Defcon.

Personally, I would like to throw a name in the hat for Nerdcore at Defcon: The Big Beat Battaltion. They will already be at Defcon on Thursday for theSummit, and would also like to perform either on Friday or Saturday night in Penthouse club.

You can get samples of their music at http://www.bigbeatbattaltion.com

Deviant Ollam

05-20-2007, 06:50 AM

That being said I am interested in getting some fresh ideas concerning acts for B&Wa high ranking item for me would be better/faster ways to get the recordings of the event out to the attendees. either with publicly-available board patches so folks could do their own recordings for personal use, or someone willing to put out a torrent for the whole sets within a day or two of the con.

i, personally, have been waiting for the minibosses set (which i actually offered to record if i could have had a board patch) since august.

just my $0.02

hackajar

05-20-2007, 02:06 PM

either with publicly-available board patches so folks could do their own recordings for personal use,

Holy crap that's a good idea! Streaming content across network? Or even to a channel on the room TV? For people's room parties!

Deviant Ollam

05-20-2007, 07:04 PM

even to a channel on the room TV? For people's room parties!now that would be pretty amazing. i know that we didn't get to have the movie channel last year due to the hotel's being asinine about matters... but having the DJ sets broadcast would be amazing if it's possible.

zziks

05-21-2007, 02:03 AM

Bink has yet to burn down the recordings of last year . i think .

The issue with a breakout patch from the console is babysitting that persons property the entire evening..

If someone provides equipment that can push a A\V signal to a stream or channel they would be welcome to patch in. we have had defcon radio in the past
hook up and broadcast .
now only if we could get a pirate TV signal setup ( Hint ... Hint)

DJ Jackalope

05-22-2007, 01:59 PM

Ideas for Sets:
Everyone is scheduled for a 45 minute set. Ok: I know that sounds WEIRD. But how often have the B/W ball(s) not been on schedule?

The thing is: leave all the djs/bands an HOUR block, so you get 15 minute leeway between acts for....random Priest/Goon chaos, cops, alien invasion, beer drinking, etc.

just .02 stuff i've found out through promoting my own parties...

wintamute

05-29-2007, 02:11 AM

Just want to you guys know I'll be in Vegas again this year and of course I'd throw in a set of electronic music

IrishMASMS

06-05-2007, 05:17 AM

Perhaps get in contact with the local Vegas Promoters & DJs in Vegas; such as Delchi & 3vil_1?

Perhaps try to prevent the dramafest that happened last year? ;)

bink

06-07-2007, 12:10 PM

hey everyone. sorry bout being in hiding, everything's been very hectic lately. i am hoping to get a few days off this month and having a sit down with Zziks about starting to finalize this years festivities. we'll be in touch.

Deviant Ollam

06-07-2007, 05:21 PM

The issue with a breakout patch from the console is babysitting that persons property the entire evening.i can't imagine a huge number of people would avail themselves of the board patch. if people were restricted to using small devices (i.e.- MP3 player/recorders, DAT devices, minidisc units, etc) i don't think it would be a huge burden on the DJ staff, would it?

i mean, you hand up a device with the record function running. all the booth staff would do is plug it in to a jack with properly-normalized volume (really, just line-level inputs) and let it roll. at the end of the night, the four or five people who were jacked in can claim their stuff. ask them to mark their devices with colored tape or some other sort of flag if need be.

just my $0.02

Dark Tangent

06-07-2007, 07:06 PM

This is a good question!

We don't have Top of the Rive this year, so we need a new home for the B&W ball.

I'm thinking maybe put it where there is good flow, where we can be loud and not disturb anyone. That way it can go later, keep more people near the sky box parties and the out door area (Which we will keep open late)

DJ Jackalope

06-08-2007, 12:14 AM

Just want to you guys know I'll be in Vegas again this year and of course I'd throw in a set of electronic music

I vote for Wintamute!:tongue:

DJ Jackalope

06-08-2007, 12:18 AM

Wow....the top of the Riv was a good venue in theory for sure, awesome place, and glad I got to play there...

Ideally if money wasn't an issue, I'd just ask if you wanted to rent out RA or ICE.

*tries to think of a Riv venue* All I can think of is the floor at the bottom of the skyboxes, but that would be loud and bother the skyboxen and echoy...

I fully agree with the criteria of finding a new space.

Ideas, guys?

This is a good question!

We don't have Top of the Rive this year, so we need a new home for the B&W ball.

I'm thinking maybe put it where there is good flow, where we can be loud and not disturb anyone. That way it can go later, keep more people near the sky box parties and the out door area (Which we will keep open late)

bink

06-08-2007, 10:47 AM

in reality, any of the ballrooms would work out fine. but the rooms on the ground floor that have the power hooks that we need are Pavillion 5 or 6 and Grande ballroom A or E. we can also consider sharing the room as we did in the past with a daytime talks room. just as long as we get 4 hours to set up bands for Saturday night (if we have an 8pm open, the talks end at 4pm). Friday is easy,30 to 45 minutes tops to get ready. we will just need time for the banquet staff to pull chairs and set some tables.

as always, you know myself and Zziks are always up for a good challenge.

This is a good question!

We don't have Top of the Rive this year, so we need a new home for the B&W ball.

I'm thinking maybe put it where there is good flow, where we can be loud and not disturb anyone. That way it can go later, keep more people near the sky box parties and the out door area (Which we will keep open late)

TheCotMan

06-08-2007, 11:57 AM

in reality, any of the ballrooms would work out fine. but the rooms on the ground floor that have the power hooks that we need are Pavillion 5 or 6 and Grande ballroom A or E. we can also consider sharing the room as we did in the past with a daytime talks room. just as long as we get 4 hours to set up bands for Saturday night (if we have an 8pm open, the talks end at 4pm). Friday is easy,30 to 45 minutes tops to get ready. we will just need time for the banquet staff to pull chairs and set some tables.

as always, you know myself and Zziks are always up for a good challenge.

Here is a post, and begin of thread from a little over 2 months ago which included discussion of floor plan use. DT included 3 maps showing potential floor use for each of the 3 days, which may be useful. (New spaces are open on the ground floor for Defcon which were not open to us last year.)

Hope this helps.

bink

06-08-2007, 01:49 PM

Here is a post, and begin of thread from a little over 2 months ago which included discussion of floor plan use. DT included 3 maps showing potential floor use for each of the 3 days, which may be useful. (New spaces are open on the ground floor for Defcon which were not open to us last year.)

Hope this helps.

so looking at the proposed room layout, i'm feeling the chillout/contest area. here are some benefits to using this area
1. power we need for B&W is located in the Northeast corner of the room
2. there are rig points so we can fly our lighting rig in the air ( no trip hazards)
3. we can invite other DJs to spin chill out at a background volume during the day.
4. right next to the smoking area (for those of you who have not been informed, Las Vegas passed the no smoking law for all public areas, minus casino floors and bars with no food.)
5. we won't have to clear or shut down the room for set-up. not like we're gonna interfere with any of the talks, so our set up schedule will be pretty relaxed. we'll enjoy that.
6. daytime use of the stage to announce contests, speaker changes, special events, etc...

thats what i think. like i said before, we're up for anything, but i think this space would be prime for us.

TheCotMan

06-08-2007, 03:56 PM

so looking at the proposed room layout, i'm feeling the chillout/contest area. here are some benefits to using this area
1. power we need for B&W is located in the Northeast corner of the room
2. there are rig points so we can fly our lighting rig in the air ( no trip hazards)
3. we can invite other DJs to spin chill out at a background volume during the day.
4. right next to the smoking area (for those of you who have not been informed, Las Vegas passed the no smoking law for all public areas, minus casino floors and bars with no food.)
5. we won't have to clear or shut down the room for set-up. not like we're gonna interfere with any of the talks, so our set up schedule will be pretty relaxed. we'll enjoy that.
6. daytime use of the stage to announce contests, speaker changes, special events, etc...

thats what i think. like i said before, we're up for anything, but i think this space would be prime for us.

There are some things that would need to be worked out with this:
aCTF has used this space 2 years in a row, and spent a *lot* of time running cables tables, and taping the cat5* to the carpet to avoid people tripping over the network. The setups were both long and tedious, and were not things that could quickly, or easily be picked up and re-laid-out every morning.
aCTF was playing music in the contest space last year. It would be good to have everyone on the same page for music generation so there are not multiple sources in the same room, and to ensure saving people the transport space of the heavy equipment needed to have the amplified music if they know they won't need to bring their own equipment.

The Defcon Robots contest had a rig which stayed up between contest days, and moving the rig from last year each night could have lead some to complain if they sensed any functional difference between the runs on different days. Their rig will be different this year. I don't know if it will lend itself to tear-down and reset, or move.

LPCon has many locks, which can be heavy and bulky, requiring much effort to tear down and setup each night. (This may have been done last year, and maybe they will do this next year and store the locks in the LP Village overnight-- I've not heard what they will be doing with their items.)

Most other contest can be fairly easily moved as complete tables, based on what I saw last year. (Pick up the table with their stuff on it and move it to a new location, and the contest has been moved.)

I heard Russ is still in charge of the contest area, so you might want to run this idea by him and see if he sees other problems, or logistical issues that could make this location difficult to use, based on the planning for this area that he has in the works.
(It is much easier to have solutions to foreseeable problems before they are encountered than when they are encountered.)

Good luck! :-)

Abby_Normal

06-08-2007, 07:33 PM

hackajar

06-10-2007, 12:00 AM

What happen to Top of the Riv?

Catharsis

06-11-2007, 01:37 PM

I'll be in Vegas for DC this year and would be glad to throw down some hard hitting industrial-techno (hard techno, powernoise, industrial) once again..

I'd also be glad to collaborate on a surround sound audio system w/ whoever would like to set one up.. I've started an audio hardware company working on a box to facilitate this kind of thing.. This kind of thing will work great for chill area, but be a little out of budget (for additional speakers) for B&W.

A picture of a recent temporary installation w/ a view of our prototype box in some picts I did out here in SF:
http://www.egrsoftware.com/about/space/supperclub/

MitchMitchem

06-13-2007, 12:33 PM

Wow. I need to check here more often.

One thing about recording/broadcasting sets is this: Some artists have done remixes/bootlegs/exclusive songs that are not to be played in an environment that is recorded.

If a big room on the ground floor is taken over, you could actually have DJs playing all day/night. Having projectors with visuals would be pretty rad as well.

hackajar

06-13-2007, 12:38 PM

One thing about recording/broadcasting sets is this: Some artists have done remixes/bootlegs/exclusive songs that are not to be played in an environment that is recorded.

I would rather give up these "exclusive" songs in turn for the ability to record. IMHO people care more about personal freedom to record over DJ's freedom to play songs they don't want recorded.

Deviant Ollam

06-13-2007, 03:30 PM

Some artists have done remixes/bootlegs/exclusive songs that are not to be played in an environment that is recorded.i agree with hackajar 100%... or maybe my position is even more extreme, since i can't imagine that one should reasonably expect DefCon to be an environment that is super-sensitive to anyone's personal expectations of intellectual property or copyright.

i know that i don't give a damn about those matters when i'm at a public venue listening to a speech or a performance, many of which i record. if folks don't want something that they've created to be disseminated and spread they can simply keep it in a vault in their basement. once it's out, it's out... hardly worth whining at that point.

TheCotMan

06-13-2007, 04:10 PM

Wow. I need to check here more often.

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Dark Tangent

06-13-2007, 04:39 PM

i agree with hackajar 100%... or maybe my position is even more extreme, since i can't imagine that one should reasonably expect DefCon to be an environment that is super-sensitive to anyone's personal expectations of intellectual property or copyright.

i know that i don't give a damn about those matters when i'm at a public venue listening to a speech or a performance, many of which i record. if folks don't want something that they've created to be disseminated and spread they can simply keep it in a vault in their basement. once it's out, it's out... hardly worth whining at that point.

W0rd. What he said.

Dark Tangent

06-13-2007, 05:21 PM

I like Bink's idea. I was secretly hoping you guys would come up with it on your own. I think the higher ceilings would be nice, and I love the idea of DJs going all day / night.

TheCotMan

06-13-2007, 06:05 PM

I like Bink's idea. I was secretly hoping you guys would come up with it on your own. I think the higher ceilings would be nice, and I love the idea of DJs going all day / night.

Then maybe the contests that are difficult to move can be placed along a shared wall, to allow the other, more easily moved contest to be, um, more easily moved to make more space as needed.

shagghie

06-13-2007, 08:08 PM

I like Bink's idea. I was secretly hoping you guys would come up with it on your own. I think the higher ceilings would be nice, and I love the idea of DJs going all day / night.

In the spirit of DT's last post... anyone up for an Acid band playing during daytime or B&W breakout lounge area, etc.? This is Shagghie (winner of last year's badge hacking contest, for those that don't know me). I've got a small gig here in San Diego that does live Acid jamming performances that can go for hours on end. Serious hard core gear, too. We' d just need a PA, preferably something with a sub...our synths go sub audio in search of brown notes not as yet discovered. Would be cool, too, to let other peeps 'jack in' to the midi clock with their own 303's, etc...or just some of our gear if they have the inclination/skillz? We can do 90 bpm dub style acid, or we can do 127- 140 bpm hardstyle... or whatever's in between. And it gets pretty far out there, so have to be careful with the scene bunnys so they don't fall down, etc. Ideas, thoughts? I'm here to help!

Dark Tangent

06-13-2007, 08:17 PM

Then maybe the contests that are difficult to move can be placed along a shared wall, to allow the other, more easily moved contest to be, um, more easily moved to make more space as needed.

Don't forget, we also have a dedicated room or two along the hallway that is not being used.

wintamute

06-14-2007, 07:18 AM

hackajar

06-14-2007, 09:31 PM

So how can Nerdcore fit into this grand idea of playing all day/night?

LosT

06-15-2007, 12:33 AM

Just cross posted this accidentally- *ducks*

I've been talking with MC Frontalot- and I'd like to see him play defcon- thoughts?

LosT

Abby_Normal

06-15-2007, 12:13 PM

Just cross posted this accidentally- *ducks*

I've been talking with MC Frontalot- and I'd like to see him play defcon- thoughts?

LosT

That would be pretty cool! Him or MC Lars would kick ass.

shoegoo

06-20-2007, 12:32 AM

I've been talking with MC Frontalot- and I'd like to see him play defcon- thoughts?

I caught his show a couple months ago and it was a lot of fun. I'd definitely catch his set if he played DC.

DJ Jackalope

06-23-2007, 03:40 PM

Zikks,

How is the line up looking?

would MC Frontalot, etc be willing to play for defcon passes?

just curious what stuff is looking like.

zziks

06-24-2007, 02:49 AM

Zikks,

How is the line up looking?

would MC Frontalot, etc be willing to play for defcon passes?

just curious what stuff is looking like.

I gotta squeeze defcon for a $$ and/or rooms to book him. a few other acts are requesting the same as well .

this nerdcore thing sounds awesome . btw

zziks

06-24-2007, 06:54 AM

The setlist is coming together quite nicely .
we still have a few hiccups with a couple of acts . mostly transportation costs and lodging issues. but hopefully those can be resolved soon .

zziks

06-24-2007, 07:15 AM

TheCotMan

06-24-2007, 09:44 AM

okay off topic here but it does relate to planning b&w .
to whom do i speak to about getting the setlist printed in the booklet?
I have tried PM'ing blackbeetle . but no answer .
Is there another way to contact him? or should I talk with someone else?
If you have the answer please PM me
Thanks. I promise to have the setlist out asap!

Last year it was BlackBeetle that posted the request in the forums as a call for content in the booklet.

The last person to post about the booklet and CD this year was Nikita (here.) She included contact email addresses too. She might be able to help you with an answer if you have no response from BlackBeetle.

Also, if you will be on the contest floor, as an Event on the contest floor, Russ might also be a person to contact too.

DJ Jackalope

06-24-2007, 01:02 PM

If there's need for a chillout dj space to fill, i'd love to play atmospheric loungy jungle for an hour...

wintamute

06-24-2007, 02:05 PM

i also want some nerdcore, mc frontalot would be awesome :)
and as i already said, if there's going to be 24h music and/or chillout lounge, i'd do a ambient/lounge set also just for the fun of it.

shagghie

06-25-2007, 11:10 AM

I'm bringing my acid hardware with me... any other acid musicians/ technical operators in the house? E.g., any else know how to drive elektrons, jomox's, and Future Retro's??? I may or may not have fellow musicianhaxors coming with me this year, so I'm actively soliciting other artists who might want to jam with my gear or their own. In fact... a massive defcon acid party live would be...well, insane!

Who else can bring real hardware or samplers to the show?

ANother option: I have a RedSound mini thingy that converts DJ vinyl BPM to midi clock, and a midi merger, so that if there are any DJ's that spin acid /acid house, acid jungle, etc. let me know...we can work something out with your tables and my gear... delicious!

leave message here, PM, or pwn me on myspace bandsite: /shagghie

MitchMitchem

06-26-2007, 12:14 AM

zziks, you got email. Sorry, I've been out of town getting stupid drunk.

MitchMitchem

06-26-2007, 12:16 AM

Oh yeah, if I get on, I'm gonna rock out an Ableton Live Digital Mix.

shagghie

06-26-2007, 02:22 PM

Oh yeah, if I get on, I'm gonna rock out an Ableton Live Digital Mix.

nice.... do you do micro-loop/sample style grooving, ala faderfox, or do you mean just arranging full tracks for a dj set, or combo thereof, or?

What style will you be bringin'? If you can send me some clock, I can lay down some sick basslines and acid leads with the FR-777 or the TM3030... And bring the jomox kick into the groove ala carte...

Looks like I have enough musicians now to do some serious acid damage... if anyone else wants to participate, now's the time to speak up. At this point, only bring one piece of gear, or just borrow ours. We have too many machines already as it is.

What's the scoop on organizing floor space and PA time? BYO PA? I'm driving in a GTi from San Diego, so that's a bit tough!

shag

MitchMitchem

06-28-2007, 10:51 PM

Combo!

I play breaks/electroclash/indie/electrohouse/drum n bass/metal

I'm down for fucking some tunes up (possibly during the day?), but not during my set. Sorry mate.

shagghie

06-29-2007, 08:54 AM

Combo!

I play breaks/electroclash/indie/electrohouse/drum n bass/metal

I'm down for fucking some tunes up (possibly during the day?), but not during my set. Sorry mate.

Yeah, no doubt! That's right up our acid alley, style-wise.

Ok, but now, do we have a sense for where/when there will be a PA during the day? Will there be multiple locations/PA's to play from set up? At this rate, one doesn't look like it will be enough! :p

I'm going to bring some AD converters to record with for us...

DJ Jackalope

06-29-2007, 09:08 PM

zziks, you got email. Sorry, I've been out of town getting stupid drunk.

Cmos invented a new kind of drunk at Toorcon... "Johnny Cash drunk."

MitchMitchem

07-01-2007, 03:07 PM

I just get Mitch Mitchem drunk.

Mitch Mitchem drunk (v): stumbling around, saying inappropriate things to everyone, flirting with women that are way out of your league but find it "cute" that you're so hammered, chain smoking clove cigarettes, and double/triple fisting drinks.

jdavid

07-08-2007, 12:08 PM

I think Defcon should play at Defcon along with Cruiciform Injection and the Gothsicles. I talked to all of these guys and gals, and the seem interested in doing the show, but you know how musicians are, sometimes they just need to be invited;-) if you need phone numbers, or email addresses just send me an email.

Defcon
http://www.myspace.com/defconband
http://defense-condition.net/

Cruiciform Injection
http://www.myspace.com/cruciforminjection

The Gothsicles Myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/thegothsicles

Their totaly rad site.
http://www.thegothsicles.com/

Hex RX sounds cool to(just found them today.)

Dark Tangent

07-09-2007, 12:56 AM

I like the idea.

Now we just need to have the projectors playing the movie DEF CON 4 on one screen while on the other people play the video game DEFCON, drinking DEFCON energy drink, wearing DEFCON snowboard gloves, and secure their laptops with DEFCON 1 computer locks.

I think Defcon should play at Defcon along with Cruiciform Injection and the Gothsicles. I talked to all of these guys and gals, and the seem interested in doing the show, but you know how musicians are, sometimes they just need to be invited;-) if you need phone numbers, or email addresses just send me an email.

Defcon
http://www.myspace.com/defconband
http://defense-condition.net/

Cruiciform Injection
http://www.myspace.com/cruciforminjection

The Gothsicles Myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/thegothsicles

Their totaly rad site.
http://www.thegothsicles.com/

Hex RX sounds cool to(just found them today.)

TheCotMan

07-09-2007, 09:27 AM

LosT

07-09-2007, 10:47 AM

What about the opening sequence from Futurama with the Billboard advertising DefCon as a product that kills, Owls?
(I think it is owls.)
And add that scene from the TV Series, "The X Files" where the two agents visit Las Vegas and Attend DefCon (Convention) which is a convention for Defense Contractors?

Cot, if you are going to go that far, let's just up pictures of the Lone Gunmen :)

Or simply start launching nukes to push the defcon level to the max! :)

LosT

rustcycle

07-09-2007, 03:51 PM

@Jackalope: thanks for the support :)

I like the idea of having music day & night. I also volunteer for playing some downtempo/chillout/ambient during daytime. I plan on playing all digital this year, so I'm not limited by vinyl weight ;)

Sounds great....I'll be looking forward to hearing it, and if you want some live cello / violin with your ambient tracks let me know

wintamute

07-10-2007, 07:35 AM

Sounds great....I'll be looking forward to hearing it, and if you want some live cello / violin with your ambient tracks let me know

Sure, you're welcome to play along, should be fun.

@Staff: so will there be music besides b&w ball?
well, I have everything on my laptop, so I'm set :)

shagghie

07-10-2007, 11:51 AM

Sounds great....I'll be looking forward to hearing it, and if you want some live cello / violin with your ambient tracks let me know

Now that's hawt! Just the think we've been looking for for our acid live set...

I still don't understand how all this goest together, PA-wise. Will there be multiple PA's located around the campus? I'm wondering if we should set up an improvised 'calendar' to quasi-organize time? I'm bringing my beatmaster counterpart along with me, and we'll be able to do our own submixing with our gear...but we still need a stereo PA to jack into, and of course...time alotted.
We can acid jam live on our gear for hours on end...so as much time as is feasible, and whatever PA location is clever. I was kind of thinking of setting up in one of the sky lounges this year....if only to help with the security of our hardware... since we are BYOAM's (Bring yo' own acid machines).

How does playing the cello alongside 303 basslines sound to you, btw? I might bring my horn as well. We could run you through the SP-404, and let a minion twiddle your FX knobs while you play, etc...

Seriously though...what's up with calendar/PA-reservation?

ta!
Shagghie/Scott

DJ Jackalope

07-10-2007, 07:11 PM

This thread will never cease to make me giggle.

Defcon blowpops?

And Yes, Shagghie, Mitch is right up our alley musicwise.

shagghie

07-11-2007, 02:56 AM

This thread will never cease to make me giggle.

Defcon blowpops?

And Yes, Shagghie, Mitch is right up our alley musicwise.

kew'

The DefCon BlowPops

Our new band name.

Ok, well... all I know is that if i'm dragging my gear at 140mph and 120 deg.far., and along with my producer and acid cohort, well, I just hope there's a PA to jack into when i get there.

AcidicA

07-11-2007, 09:22 AM

DJ Jackalope

07-11-2007, 03:09 PM

Ok, well... all I know is that if i'm dragging my gear at 140mph and 120 deg.far., and along with my producer and acid cohort, well, I just hope there's a PA to jack into when i get there.

Yeah... I only know of two PAs. Bink's B/W Ball set up and the Green Sector PA belonging to Shadowvex. I don't know what the plans are with the PA.

Exist

07-11-2007, 06:17 PM

Do we need to bring dj gear or is that provided?

shagghie

07-12-2007, 12:37 PM

I can bring a electrotribe mk11, a dx-200 and a microkorg to jam with yah.

Bring it!! hOW'S it goin', Acidica.... we were going to do that sound destruction competition thingy this year, remember? Lol.

DJ Jackalope

07-12-2007, 08:22 PM

Do we need to bring dj gear or is that provided?

If you're playing at the Balls, it should be provided.

However, if you are into renegade parties and skyboxen and stuff like that and are in a position where bringing gear isn't a big issue, i'd recommend it. Most everyone flys into Defcon, and bringing gear is a nightmare. TSA has all ready broken a part off of one of my 1200s, so i'm done flying with my 1200s.

shagghie

07-13-2007, 10:46 AM

If you're playing at the Balls, it should be provided.

However, if you are into renegade parties and skyboxen and stuff like that and are in a position where bringing gear isn't a big issue, i'd recommend it. Most everyone flys into Defcon, and bringing gear is a nightmare. TSA has all ready broken a part off of one of my 1200s, so i'm done flying with my 1200s.

Ok, this allows me to ask my earlier question (again). What do skyboxen and other locations use for a PA? Are there going to be multiple PA's we can all share for these live sets and chill sets, etc.? How do we 'reserve' such units?

DJ Jackalope

07-13-2007, 06:12 PM

Ok, this allows me to ask my earlier question (again). What do skyboxen and other locations use for a PA? Are there going to be multiple PA's we can all share for these live sets and chill sets, etc.? How do we 'reserve' such units?

I would say its all bring your own...and get in touch with the people who are throwing the skyboxen parties to secure said gear. That's the part where you gotta be proactive. :biggrin:

rustcycle

07-16-2007, 10:55 AM

Now that's hawt! Just the think we've been looking for for our acid live set...
...

How does playing the cello alongside 303 basslines sound to you, btw? I might bring my horn as well. We could run you through the SP-404, and let a minion twiddle your FX knobs while you play, etc...

Seriously though...what's up with calendar/PA-reservation?

ta!
Shagghie/Scott

Glad you're up for it! Cello + 303 would be great! I'll be doing all my processing in Logic through a MOTU Traveler, so we'll throw some reverb on there to fatten it up. When I play violin I use an Alesis AirFX so I can jack up the sound without needing a free hand for a knob / fader. If someone else wants to loop / modulate / filter the strings they're more than welcome too!

Not sure who is coming with me...potentially the Warr guitarist from Edifice - in that case I know he'll be up for a jam too :-D If you haven't seen a Warr guitar, it's the 12-string beast in this promo pic: http://rustcycle.com/edificePromo4.jpg

DJ Jackalope

07-16-2007, 06:19 PM

If you haven't seen a Warr guitar, it's the 12-string beast in this promo pic: http://rustcycle.com/edificePromo4.jpg

That is one scary piece of gear!

shagghie

07-17-2007, 10:30 AM

That is one scary piece of gear!

I'm somewhere between pitching a tent and putting my tail between my legs...

YES! I'll be bringing a MH2882 and an X-Sum mixer so we can sum all the parts and go 'straight to tape', or we could multi-track too for post production goodness later on.

I can't imagine what that guitar sounds like! I have a nice E-H 2ube pre with some vintage telefunken tubes in there that break apart really nice. If we threw your mono cello sig into that and put each tube in series we could get some nice over-driven cello saturation going, and plenty of gain along the way. Have you tried tube distortion on it yet? i can't say i've heard that yet! whatever you like to run, it will be good. I'll bring the 2ube for fun if you want...

I can't say I know who's throwing the skyboxen partees this year... but if we kixor ass when we get set up, perchance Ceazar would fancy an acid gig? :p
I'll hit him up for us...

rustcycle

07-26-2007, 09:07 AM

I'm somewhere between pitching a tent and putting my tail between my legs...

LOL - too much!

When is everyone getting in? I'll be driving out Fri, driving home Mon....

bloofar

07-26-2007, 12:41 PM

Hey Shagghie et al

I'll be bringing my laptop and yamaha ux-256. And possibly an electribe A mk ii and an MPC 2000. I'll get some nice samples ready ahead of time.

I'll be getting in to town early on Thursday morning.

shagghie

07-27-2007, 01:23 AM

LOL - too much!

When is everyone getting in? I'll be driving out Fri, driving home Mon....

Jackalope, Rust, Bloo... I'm driving out with VJ (producer and acid house cohort) sometime on Weds, and leaving Monday afternoon after Skippy's post haxoronnaplane return bonvoyage sixsigma partee UFO.

You guys all at the Riv? (we are)

Ok, last but not least.... does anyone know any scoop on a PA system for us 'live jammers'? I don't know who or what's up in the skyboxen.... I was kind of hoping poolside like AP-style...but can you do that at the Riv without being arrested or homeless?

S

AcidicA

07-27-2007, 02:20 AM

Bring it!! hOW'S it goin', Acidica.... we were going to do that sound destruction competition thingy this year, remember? Lol.

Yeah, then I went on tour and got to busy :( . Oh well, looks like we have enough people here to make Pink Floyde look like a 3 peice :)

rustcycle

07-27-2007, 10:52 AM

Jackalope, Rust, Bloo... I'm driving out with VJ (producer and acid house cohort) sometime on Weds, and leaving Monday afternoon after Skippy's post haxoronnaplane return bonvoyage sixsigma partee UFO.

You guys all at the Riv? (we are)
S

Very cool!

I'll be at the Hilton Fri, Riv on Sat / Sun....

If people want to throw in a few bucks for a gallon of fog juice I can bring a hazer and two moving heads - they're just little guys - http://youtube.com/watch?v=37GmbMEXTi8

DJ Jackalope

07-27-2007, 08:48 PM

You guys all at the Riv? (we are)

Ok, last but not least.... does anyone know any scoop on a PA system for us 'live jammers'? I don't know who or what's up in the skyboxen.... I was kind of hoping poolside like AP-style...but can you do that at the Riv without being arrested or homeless?

S

As far as I know, pool parties Defcon style are 100% out at the Riv.

I'm staying at the Riv, showing up on Tuesday.

shagghie

07-28-2007, 01:30 AM

As far as I know, pool parties Defcon style are 100% out at the Riv.

I'm staying at the Riv, showing up on Tuesday.

Cool 'lope!

yeah, I was afraid of that. last year some twit threw just one plastic cup off a balcony that landed 30 feet from a security guard patrolling that pool and 50 seconds later the penthouse renegade raging room party was shut down and dismantled for good.

We need a playground, not a frigging ward!

OK, I'm pretty sure if we need a 3rd PA, a couple 'a decks and a mixer, we could pool together and rent a set.... skippy's got the RAM 1500 again this year. :)
But now, ironically, if the PA's aren't the challenge, sounds like it might be a LOCATION to accomadate all of us technoids!

bloofar

07-28-2007, 01:45 PM

I've secured an ER-1 for the funness. I'll get those samples chopped up into glitchy goodness this weekend. I've also got a small handful of guitar effects pedals for general audio destruction. Unfortunately I won't be bringing the A or the MPC but with Renoise and the ER-1 I figure we should be able to shit out some audio gold.

MitchMitchem

07-28-2007, 04:09 PM

If someone can bring a guitar, my friend will be able to rock out on it.

bloofar

07-28-2007, 08:41 PM

shagghie

07-29-2007, 02:02 AM

Ok so I'll be bringing the ER-1, a midi controller, and a few effects devices.

In a sort of drunken preparation for getting my techno on, this is what I built tonight:

(pics linked due to size)
http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~k/tandy-techno1.jpg
http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~k/tandy-techno2.jpg

Wow...wtf is that thing? Can you send me some .mp3 of that Radio Shack action?
How come I haven't seen one of these???

The ER-1 should be great.... and if you are chopping up samples, what are you bringing for a sampler!?

bloofar

07-29-2007, 11:22 PM

Wow...wtf is that thing? Can you send me some .mp3 of that Radio Shack action?
How come I haven't seen one of these???

It's the newest incarnation of the RadioShack 300-in-1 project lab thingies. I had 2 of those when I was a kid (probably in the parents basement somewhere). The newest one still has springs for shit like poteniometers, speaker, transformer, leds, etc. but instead of having all the components embedded in the middle, it has breadboards and loose components. The annoying thing is that all of the discrete components aren't labeled with the values, so you either sit there with look up tables or an LCR meter for identifying components. (.1 uF caps were labeled '104' and such)

Built on it was a voltage controlled oscillator. Pitch was controlled by the buttons on the bottom with which let you play the notes from a fifth chord. Root of the chord varied based on the position of one of the potentiometers. The other pot controlled the amplitude. The VCO was based on a FM Mims design using a 555 timer IC. It was plugged into the er-1 which was used for gating and delay as well as a acidy drum line. When you touched the cap on the output circuit the tone got really nice and nasty.

A few drinks later I tried to add an additional 555 and set up a feedback loop. Unfortunately either I was too drunk to draw out the schematic properly or I was too drunk to connect the wires correctly. There was a high-pitched (migrane-inducing) tone I could control with the voltage input but not to the point where it was low enough to be useful.

Unfortunately there's no mp3s. My buddy didn't have the appropriate cables handy and I didn't have my laptop there.

The ER-1 should be great.... and if you are chopping up samples, what are you bringing for a sampler!?

Samples will be trigged through Reason running on my laptop. Renoise and Reason are the only reason I ever boot into Windows anymore.

At this point the gear list is:
o Laptop running renoise
o Yamaha UX-256 midi interface
o Korg ER-1
o Akai MPC24 midi controller
o Alesis Nanoverb
o Shitty minimixer
o Flask of whisky
o Ungodly amounts of red bull

How many people are in at this point? Has a jamming location been confirmed? I can set up the gear in about 3x3' of table space.

Oh and if anybody wants to pay for frieght I can bring my Allen & Heath SR-424 :)