BBQ Update

[L0nd0]

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But finding the BBQ is the Best part, but when you do find it you'll notice that it’s in the same place that it was before. Also there is a very large parking lot that is across the park unfortunately it isn’t very close but it has a lot of room.

Everyone have a safe trip out to Vegas.

[converge]

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Not so sure about the conspiracy thing, BBQ isn't exactly a top secret, show up and have fun! Seriously, nothing new this year.

If it needs more aura, lost says to consider finding the BBQ as the easiest part of the mystery box contest.

[signcarver]

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Hey now! Don't bring me into this! I am not a Toxic BBQ Organizer. The only thing I run around here is, well, I don't run anything but my fingers. :-)

Sorry, I was probably reading too much into converge's statement that it would be the same bbq... I interpreted that into being the same grill and you had already posted where it used to be. so I didn't feel that I was dragging you into this. I tried to make a point that I wasn't sure as I too have long been under the impression that it would not be at the same location so that statement confused me.

I was fishing for clarification of the same bbq statement and I'm sorry if my post might confuse people and direct them to the wrong place.

[TheCotMan]

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i'm guessing that Londo or the other top brass of the BBQ will make a more formal post tomorrow...

I have another thought on conspiracies related to the location:
Since some people that go to the BBQ also go to BlackHat, we know that some will have left for Las Vegas by now. This delay in location information is designed to encourage people to bring their desktop and laptop computers with them to Defcon, so they can touch down, get on the forums this weekend, and find the location of the Toxic BBQ. It is a conspiracy to encourage people to bring their computers with them to BlackHat and Defcon. It is a social engineering attempt. Obey! Conform! Bring your computers to Defcon!

Am I chiding the organizers too much? ]:>

/me ducks and runs for cover.

[Wing]

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We (the Titanium Chef teams and staff) will be at the BBQ way earlier than everyone else. If you find us, you will be in good shape.

That was my plan, roll down the windows and smell for meat.

Show up with some goods of your own (food, booze, etc) so that we don't have a moocher problem

Is there any known issue with glass bottles? Or am I going to have to buy some damned cans (or worse, suffer a beer that comes in plastic bottles)

[Deviant Ollam]

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Let's put it this way. I, personally, am solid on the location. The participants of the Titanium Chef Challenge will also be, once they get their instruction sheet at the meetup or get a txt message from me.

We (the Titanium Chef teams and staff) will be at the BBQ way earlier than everyone else. If you find us, you will be in good shape. (We're not talking about Central Park or Fairmount Park here... Sunset Park isn't that big. You won't get left out or lost as long as you show up remotely in the right area of the city.) Our event is wrapping up at around 5:00 PM and the biggest BBQ crowds don't start showing up until at least 6:00.

The best thing you can do to help support the BBQ event and to wind up totally cool is to...

1. Show up with some goods of your own (food, booze, etc) so that we don't have a moocher problem

2. Park away from the BBQ event area (the main parking lot is awesome... just walk over to where you see us) so you're not making our scene wicked-crowded with vehicles. As long as it's not Sam's Hot Car Lot things are in good shape.

3. Pick up your trash as you leave. No matter how loud or numerous we are, i'll wager dollars to doughnuts that the powers that be will draw 90% of their opinion about us from how we leave the area. So please, just get your shit into a trash can (or even better, grab a contractor bag from one of the staffers and put all your stuff in that, tie it off, and put it by a refuse bin)

these are just my suggestions to make the event go well and to keep everyone happy. i'm guessing that Londo or the other top brass of the BBQ will make a more formal post tomorrow, etc. it will all be great. just show up and be cool and we're halfway there.

[TheCotMan]

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Because of that I think you can use what TheCotMan posted...

Hey now! Don't bring me into this! I am not a Toxic BBQ Organizer. The only thing I run around here is, well, I don't run anything but my fingers. :-)

Seriously though, I am not an organizer for this event. I only provided the location that was previously used with the qualifier, "assuming the location is the same." The actual organizers for this event are listed in the toxi bbq forum, "thread view" in the lower right corner: GodMinusOne, L0nd0, KeLviN, [Syntax], che, renderman, Siviak ) These are the people that can make comments about the planning with authority. Those people and several others are the ones that do the work.

Devaint Ollam's reply to mine saying I was incorrect is the last good, known update on location. (Thanks Deviant Ollam.)

Londo is the one that mentioned a new location for this year's Toxic BBQ and then later said he would update his post with the new location. I didn't read his post until after I posted the location it had been using with the qualification, "assuming the location is the same."

Quote From L0nd0: 07-11-2008, 10:52 AM

Our location for the BBQ is a go, I was able to get the area rented out from the park which should work out for us. I am going to update this post in a bit with extra details on better places to park and the actual location.

Nothing more specific than that.

I think the location is going to be kept secret, and become item in the Scavenger Hunt, or maybe Clued. ]:> Maybe, this is a method they will use to limit visitors to only those that can find it, or know someone who can tell them -- kind of like how some raves worked.

[signcarver]

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One more week guys! Let us know the location ASAP. I would hate to show up at the wrong place.

Based on the following, I think its at the same place but it seemed burried in converge's post so I'm not sure... I thought we needed a place for more people

Thanks to all . . . The same BBQ that has sustained the last 4 Defcons will return this year

Because of that I think you can use what TheCotMan posted...

I think for DC15 and DC14 Iprovided a google maps links with the gps long/lat, assuming the location is the same:

Post from DC15
Google maps url
Scrape from that URL provides ll=36.068653,-115.1129
Longitude and Latitude are yours!
Which would map out to 36.068653º N , 115.1129º W

I would love to go on a food/beverage run but won't have a ride... a friend of mine came through and got a free suite for me(off site but very close) so now I have some extra cash to spend on food and drink that I would like to share.

[byteflip]

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One more week guys! Let us know the location ASAP. I would hate to show up at the wrong place.

[DaKahuna]

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[QUOTE=xor;97431]I"m arriving 10:30am Thursday give or take head winds & air line chapter 11. [/QUOTE

Sorry - I will still be at the Defcon Shoot.

I could use a ride if possible. How much for a cab? How far from the Riv?

Try and catch me in the hotel after lunch and I'll let you know if I have any room left in the car. I think I have obligated two seats already and not sure about the 3rd.

So what are the meet up times? When does it start?

Officially at 1800 usually. However given that a lot of people show up earlier, bring sun screen and get there any time after about 1700. (6 pm and 5 pm respectively)

Do they charge for parking if I dare say rent a vehicle? Would love to spend at least part of the day lost in the desert; love the SW. I need to see stars without the city pink in the way.

Nope. There is no charge for parking at the hotel or at the park.

DK

[converge]

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Thanks to all of the donations and the person willing to step up and put their name on the paper, we have cleared the permit hurdle with the park and its other requirements to fulfill that permit. The same BBQ that has sustained the last 4 Defcons will return this year with more mustard than you can handle.


--- organizational notes

As last year .. if folks want a coordinated food run, someone should step up and organize one. I chaotically tried the first few years and flooding the Sams/Costco with hackers was simply amazing, but extremely difficult to touch off. While TBBQ organizers-proper are not currently organizing a coordinated food run, I *highly* encourage one or many of the attendees to do so.

The one and only requirement is BYO and safety (ie, ick glass, no trashcan heap coolers, etc). If you want to share, that is awesome! TBBQ itself cannot supply food or drink.

[VanSmaq]

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Any news on exact location would be really helpful. As some of you know, myself and the other members of Team Smoke are smoking ribs and chicken for BBQ goers and will need to be at the park by about 11 am to start that process.

I know where we were last year, but from previous posts in this thread it seems that has changed. Any updates?

[[Syntax]]

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I dont know what time Im heading out to the BBQ site yet, I missed all the Titanium Chef action last year. I wouldnt mind getting there a bit early to kick back before the chaos hits.


According to http://www.taxi.state.nv.us/FaresFees.htm
Distance for cab ride is about 7.5 miles.
$3.50 Pickup Fee + 7.5 miles * 2.60 = $23

I think I remember it being about $16 but with gas prices going up
maybe the fares went up as well. Hasnt been a parking problem yet since
most people taxi, carpool ect.. no charge for parking. Parking is available right
next to the BBQ location. (Assuming its the same location)

As far as I know at this moment, the BBQ site is the same site as previous years.
Im an organizer, and I dont even have a definite on this. If I hear otherwise I will let you know.

[xor]

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I"m arriving 10:30am Thursday give or take head winds & air line chapter 11.

I could use a ride if possible. How much for a cab? How far from the Riv?

So what are the meet up times? When does it start?

Do they charge for parking if I dare say rent a vehicle? Would love to spend at least part of the day lost in the desert; love the SW. I need to see stars without the city pink in the way.

xor

[Deviant Ollam]

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ssuming the location is the same

it is not. we're in a new spot this year. and i (along with many other people, it seems) am still not 100% on where it is. hence, an overhead map and coordinate would be rocking.