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  • Greyhatter
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post
    I personally like the idea of a virtualized browsing environment. Something that runs a small simple bullet proof OS that is used just for surfing/content delivery on top of as a guest and/or sandboxed in the host OS.

    xor
    It seems so called "bullet proof" OS's have been replaced with bullet proof browsers and virtualizations... tools that protect and in come cases oversee the OS.

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  • SarperDomain
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    xor, Firefox has just such a USB drive for sale and you can download it as well.

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  • xor
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    I personally like the idea of a virtualized browsing environment. Something that runs a small simple bullet proof OS that is used just for surfing/content delivery on top of as a guest and/or sandboxed in the host OS. Multi-platform, maybe even on a USB drive that you could take with you. This way you could go to any computer and surf with privacy.

    xor

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  • SarperDomain
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Debian
    Firestarter
    Iceweasel (Firefox)
    FoxyProxy w/ TOR
    Squid in-line proxy using a smart filter to filter obvious traps
    KMail
    Spam Assassin
    Sanitizer
    Aegis and ClamAV

    Haven't had a hijack, injection, or virus on my linux box in 9 years.
    Had a cocktail of 18 on Wimpdows XP last week when a popup came up on my 2 year old while he was at disney.com. Norton signatures seem to be behind times lately.

    P.S.
    If you have wine installed and want a nice little virus to play with in your wine API, check out IEs4Linux. (Yup, they are performing the sac-religious contamination of Linux by putting IE on it.)

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  • bascule
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Don't all networked computers have a MAC?
    Depends on the network interface... </that guy>

    Re: the OP, I used to use various methods... privoxy... Tor...

    I just gave up and stopped caring

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  • Greyhatter
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post

    Until then, have fun playing with these shiny new toys on an experimental box.]
    Wrong term. Have fun playing with them inside a box on your box....

    http://www.google.com/search?q=sandboxie

    BTW, I use JonDoFox, and K-Meleon to brows in the MS environment. The former for invisibility, the latter for speed, script controls, and its ability to mimic half a dozen other popular browsers.

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  • xor
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    Sure you don't work for Ziff Davis Greyhatter

    Just got this in my mailbox:

    How to Reclaim Your Online Privacy

    This actually looks interesting:

    ZoneAlarm ForceField beta

    xor

    From Sans News Bites:

    [Editor's Note (Skoudis): Given the recent Google Chrome and Apple
    Safari for Windows problems, I think you can make a very good argument
    for not relying on a browser for your main web surfing until it has aged
    a bit, giving the vendor time to work out the most egregious security
    flaws. How much time? My gut says about a year is needed before a
    browser becomes reasonably (but not perfectly) scrubbed. Until then,
    have fun playing with these shiny new toys on an experimental box.]
    Last edited by xor; November 18, 2008, 18:29.

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  • Chris
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by TheCotMan View Post
    I think one of roamer's points was, "why did you capitalize every letter in 'MAC'?"
    If Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh, then Mac. should be enough. Capitalizing every letter suggests that MAC is not so much of an abbreviation as it is an acronym, and if an acronym, then Media Access Controller is the likely reference.

    NASA: Acronym.
    OPEC: Acronym.
    MAC: Acronym when it is Media Access Controller
    Mac: If a computer, likely a reference to an Apple Macintosh
    And we have a winner. At least someone understands me. Poor poor me. I need some emo music. Maybe I can import it into ITUNES and listen on my MAC.

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  • Greyhatter
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post
    just don't ask me what ISDN stands for I can never remember that one
    It's really a connection of sorts xor.

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  • streaker69
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post
    Not a MAC address(yes all networks cards have a Media Access Controller)(just don't ask me what ISDN stands for I can never remember that one), MAC as in OSX using Fusion or Crossover. I still call them MAC, I guess the term is no longer valid.

    xor
    ISDN = It Still Does Nothing.

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  • TheCotMan
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post
    Not a MAC address(yes all networks cards have a Media Access Controller)(just don't ask me what ISDN stands for I can never remember that one),
    It Still Doesn't Network. (joke)

    (Integrated Services Digital Network)

    MAC as in OSX using Fusion or Crossover. I still call them MAC, I guess the term is no longer valid.
    I think one of roamer's points was, "why did you capitalize every letter in 'MAC'?"
    If Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh, then Mac. should be enough. Capitalizing every letter suggests that MAC is not so much of an abbreviation as it is an acronym, and if an acronym, then Media Access Controller is the likely reference.

    NASA: Acronym.
    OPEC: Acronym.
    MAC: Acronym when it is Media Access Controller
    Mac: If a computer, likely a reference to an Apple Macintosh

    ISO: Not an acronym (when referring to the International Organization for Standardization / International Standards Organization / you-know-who-I-am-typing-about.
    ISO should be Iso, as they claim their name is from "iso" meaning "equal," but I guess that they have more money than me, so they can afford to use all capital letters even when their name is not an acronym. Funny that an organization for standardization uses letters in their name in a non-standard way.

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  • Greyhatter
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by xor View Post
    Sorry Greyhatter didn't realize you wanted Windows only;

    You didn't say whether you wanted or the server end and or both.

    xor
    Thinking that was a given, I want to know if your in "Obekisaniskie" ..just made that up... what browser(s) from a MS machine you're using to save you arse if a nasty conservative yielding a machete is heading your way in a bi-nary fashion. Gota' love .. perhaps not....:(

    Anonymity on the client end only plz.
    Last edited by Greyhatter; November 18, 2008, 17:05.

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  • xor
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    Sorry Greyhatter didn't realize you wanted Windows only;

    In addition to the stuff D.O. mentioned I run Eeye Blink Pro on XP and Kaspersky Suite on Vista. They aren't resource hogs and not annoying like Symantec. Actually Symantec got best of Security Suite for Vista. I wonder how much they paid for that endorsement.

    You could still do a virtual Windows XP guest on top of a Windows XP host and just not worry about scripts and injection and just start off each time with a fresh snapshot wiping the slate clean. You didn't say whether you wanted anonymity on the client end or the server end and or both.

    xor

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  • xor
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Don't all networked computers have a MAC?
    Not a MAC address(yes all networks cards have a Media Access Controller)(just don't ask me what ISDN stands for I can never remember that one), MAC as in OSX using Fusion or Crossover. I still call them MAC, I guess the term is no longer valid.

    xor

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  • Deviant Ollam
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    Re: Safest browsing tools

    Originally posted by Greyhatter View Post
    Only for you xor, I should have stipulated WinBlows browsers.
    ah-ha... i see what you did again. you changed the word "windows" around to make it sound inferior and express your distaste with that user environment. boy, i'm sure when 'ol Bill read the forums this morning he sure was steamed. if you'd spelled the name of the Redmond software giant with a dollar sign instead of a letter "s" that would have really fixed 'em.

    (just as a side note, i'd like to clarify that i find your posts to be pretty great a lot of the time, but i also make a little poke at you -- as i do with others -- whenever ad hominem attacks appear since i think we're all rather above that)

    to answer your specific question...
    • I run a win32 environment on most of my equipment (occasionally multi-booting to a *nix environment as needed for various applications)
    • Firefox 2.x is my browser
    • Back in the day i ran local proxies like WebWasher but now the browser itself can do most of what i sought
    • I keep all the "common sense" features enabled... like not having the browser remember passwords and having Firefox delete all cookies and personal data whenever it closes
    • I have the NoScript plugin installed and enabled by default on all sites (only a handful, including the DC Forums, are trusted sites)
    • Just for good measure, i have antivirus etc. but i can't even remember the last time a legitimate threat has appeared on my system, due to the web or otherwise. in fact, most of the time nowadays i just battle with my AV, trying to get it to stop flagging certain utility tools and the like.
    • i have the vidalia bundle installed and will occasionally enable TOR routing if i'm doing something that requires additional privacy. routing the entire affair through a VPN or SOCKS5 ssh tunnel elsewhere can also be a measure that's useful.

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