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  • Greyhatter
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    Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
    That's why it has "Don't Tase me bro" shielding on it. :)
    an o joke? clever.

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  • streaker69
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    Originally posted by xor View Post
    I think direct exposure to the average stun gun would fry it to death.

    xor
    That's why it has "Don't Tase me bro" shielding on it. :)

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  • xor
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    I think direct exposure to the average stun gun would fry it to death.

    xor

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  • Greyhatter
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    Originally posted by SarperDomain View Post
    I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.
    I suppose if you're gonna' disable it you might locate it's placement in the card then place the card on a smooth piece of hardened metal and introduce the card to the forward momentum of a nail driving hammer. One or two hits and the card was flat anyway so it still looks ok, but confirming the result may be challenging.

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  • SarperDomain
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    /me thinks streaker is quote happy. lol

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  • streaker69
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    Originally posted by SarperDomain View Post
    I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.
    You mean like an EMP?

    If one occurs, I don't think I'll be terribly concerned that the computer on my CC no longer functions. I'll probably be too busy stockpiling twinkies and watching roaches mutate.

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  • SarperDomain
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    I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.

    /me is a dumbass, streaker is right, chip cannot be harmed like that.
    I need to go read books again, I think this laptop is frying my braincells.

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  • streaker69
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    Originally posted by SarperDomain View Post
    Sorry I was actually thinking the motor more than the magnet, magnetron electronic field induction.
    Not to be pedantic, but a magnetron is what's in microwave ovens or other types of microwave transmitters, I'm sure it was just a typo.

    But even so, Every CPU has a motor on top of it generating an magnetic field, every harddrive has a motor in it, same with floppy drives. You'd need a really big motor/generator, maybe something along the lines of power plant size to generate enough induction to maybe cause problems.

    I have PC's nearby 400 and 500 HP 480V 3phase motors and haven't had an issue. I just don't think a magnetic field is going to have any effect upon the function of this device.

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  • SarperDomain
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    Redacted...
    Last edited by SarperDomain; November 20, 2008, 21:34.

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  • streaker69
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    Originally posted by SarperDomain View Post
    Too funny, set this thing too close to a fridge magnet or a running motor and *poof, there goes the CVV system.
    Uh, if it doesn't have any magnetic based storage, a magnetic field shouldn't have any effect upon it's function. Even if you were concerned about the mag-stripe for the CC portion, Mythbuster's had shown on a previous episode that it takes a fairly large magnetic field to erase the stripe.

    But if you think that a magnetic field is going to have an effect upon a processor or RAM based storage, I'd be more than happy to conduct some tests with about 30 neodymium magnets I pulled out of harddrives on a spare computer.

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  • SarperDomain
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    http://lab.emue.com/videos/scenario2_2.wmv

    Big mistake, loading an employee verification table on the card suggests that there is a way to access a programming interface on it.

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  • SarperDomain
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    Another problem, no computerized number is random, it just takes time to find the patterns.
    Give it 2 years, it will be reverse engineered like everything else.
    Last edited by SarperDomain; November 20, 2008, 21:33.

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  • Greyhatter
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    Originally posted by xor View Post
    New Visa Card Has Computer And Password Device Built-In


    xor
    After the PDA, and the $200 kiddie laptops for the disenfranchised, this had to be next. A computer in a credit card. Where do the batteries go? Is there a stylus for the keyboard, or will it receive mental commands instead of stylus strokes? Oh, credit card?...Oh, credit card?.. Just use the stylus Mr. Scott.

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  • xor
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    New VISA card.....

    New Visa Card Has Computer And Password Device Built-In

    http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch...mputer_and.php

    We need some for Defcon..

    xor
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