Enough is enough!!!!!

[Kai]

Internet service providers may be forced into wholesale spying on their customers as part of the White House's strategy for securing cyberspace.

This is total BS!!! More and more of our privacy gets stripped away because of a bunch of loser religious fanatics.

If something like this were ever to happen, I'd be setting up some off-shore servers and selling VPN accounts. Already passed by EU, I honestly don't think it could pass here, but I can see the RIAA jumping in on this for "proof" of illegal file sharing as well.

Anyone feel like buying an island off the coast and seceding from the union?

*sigh*

Kai

[blackwave]

Re: Enough is enough!!!!!

Originally posted by Kai
This is total BS!!! More and more of our privacy gets stripped away because of a bunch of loser religious fanatics.

Ugh, technology: a double-edged sword.

[converge]

Re: Enough is enough!!!!!

Originally posted by Kai
This is total BS!!! More and more of our privacy gets stripped away because of a bunch of loser religious fanatics.

heh.. thats called history; and the funny notion that things repeat themselves within a given span of time

I'm down for the island if your down with swimming the fiber, but as the "tribe" grows, the same problems cycle

[zero]

Re: Re: Enough is enough!!!!!

Originally posted by c0nv3r9


heh.. thats called history; and the funny notion that things repeat themselves within a given span of time

I'm down for the island if your down with swimming the fiber, but as the "tribe" grows, the same problems cycle

Didn't someone say "Those who forget history are forced to repeat it"? I'm sure someone did......

[TheWatcher]

So what are the alternative approach to prevent that?

[astcell]

the island already exists

I think we need a VPN directly connected to SeaLand.

[TheWatcher]

That's great, let me when will it happen? (^_^)

[astcell]

A POEM FOR COMPUTER USERS OVER 40

A computer was something on TV
From a Science Fiction show of note
A window was something you hated to clean
And ram was the father of a goat.


Meg was the name of my girlfriend
And gig was a job for the nights
Now they all mean different things
And that really mega bytes.

An application was for employment
A program was a TV show
A cursor used profanity
A keyboard was a piano.


A Memory was something that you lost with age
A CD was a bank account
And if you had a 3-in. floppy
You hoped nobody found out.



Compress was something you did to the garbage
Not something you did to a file
And if you unzipped anything in public
You'd be in jail for a while.


Log on was adding wood to the fire
Hard drive was a long trip on the road
A mouse pad was where a mouse lived
And a backup happened to your commode.


Cut you did with a pocket knife
Paste you did with glue

A web was a spider's home
And a virus was the flu.


I guess I'll stick to my pad and paper
And the memory in my head.
I hear nobody's been killed in a computer crash
But when it happens they wish they were dead.

[blackwave]

Re: the island already exists

Originally posted by astcell
I think we need a VPN directly connected to SeaLand.

Speaking of HavenCo/Sealand:



Web rebels profit from net controls

Sealand: Former military fortress in the North Sea

By Alfred Hermida
BBC News Online technology staff
Tuesday, 9 July, 2002, 08:15 GMT 09:15 UK

A crumbling concrete anti-aircraft tower off the east coast of England is home to a dot.com venture with a difference.
The military platform, dubbed Sealand, is the base of internet hosting company HavenCo which is bucking the downturn of the dot.com economy.

The company has been exploiting Sealand's self-proclaimed sovereignty to offer an offshore data haven, free of government interference.

"We believe that people have a right to communicate freely," said Ryan Lackey, co-founder of HavenCo. "If they want to operate certain kinds of business that don't hurt anybody else, they should be able to do so."

The venture comes at a time when governments across the world are tightening controls on the internet.

New laws both in the US and Europe are giving officials greater powers to snoop on online activities.

Self-styled nation

Mr Lackey came up with the idea for HavenCo two years ago and started looking for somewhere to create an electronic refuge.


Visitors have to be winched onboard

"We looked all around the world for somewhere that would have secure internet hosting, outside of government regulation and we could not really find any," Mr Lackey told the BBC programme Go Digital.

In the end, he settled on the self-styled sovereign principality of Sealand.

Britain built the anti-aircraft platform during the Second World War.

It remained derelict until the 1960s when a retired Army major, Paddy Roy Bates, took over the 10,000 square foot platform and declared it the independent nation of Sealand.

At the time, the platform was beyond the then three-mile limit of British territorial waters. All this changed in 1987, when the UK extended its territorial waters from three to 12 miles.

Little regulation

Britain does not recognise the sovereignty of Sealand but this has not deterred HavenCo.


Few controls on sites on HavenCo's servers

It has installed internet servers on the platform, linked to the outside world via satellite links.

There are few controls on the kind of websites that HavenCo is prepared to host.

"We have a strict policy of three things we prohibit here," explained Mr Lackey. "We prohibit child pornography, spamming and hacking from our machines to other machines."

So far many of the sites are online gambling ventures. But a growing number of political groups banned in their own countries have turned to HavenCo, such as the website of the Tibetan Government in exile.

"We also permit any sort of free debate about issues whereas a country or company might try to censor this or sue you," said Mr Lackey.

Providing a service to companies or groups who want to keep their data secret or publish it on the web without censorship is proving a worthwhile enterprise.

"We've been profitable since the summer of 2001 so from a commercial standpoint we can continue forever," said Mr Lackey.

"Regulations in other countries simply increase demand."

However, how long HavenCo will escape the attention of the authorities is uncertain, with officials insisting that any site hosted on Sealand will have to comply with British internet regulations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/2115887.stm

[apprentice]

enough is enough, agreed

Agreed, enough is enough, however I failed to see where religious losers were mentioned in the linked article. In fact I found no mention of religion at all.