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  • #16
    Re: omfg... we practically have a second next-gen TTB completed

    Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
    what do people think of this plan... at DEFCON erehwon gets at least one, if not both, of the TTBs. he can hang on to them for a week or two, letting servicemembers who pass through his USO post copy content during layovers, etc. then he can coordinate either a shipment or a hand-carry of the cases to the field.
    Sounds great, especially the stop at the USO post. Any thoughts of using this as a more formal distribution point and resupplying him with blank media from time to time to make duplicates?
    Don't sweat it -- it's not real life. It's only ones and zeroes. (Spaf)


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    • #17
      Re: omfg... we practically have a second next-gen TTB completed

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      Sounds great, especially the stop at the USO post. Any thoughts of using this as a more formal distribution point and resupplying him with blank media from time to time to make duplicates?
      While a nice idea, even with a Blu-ray burner it would be very difficult to clone these quickly, effectively, and on a cost effective basis.

      Source: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

      1.5
      How much data can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?


      A single-layer disc can hold 25GB.
      A dual-layer disc can hold 50GB.

      To ensure that the Blu-ray Disc format is easily extendable (future-proof) it also includes support for multi-layer discs, which should allow the storage capacity to be increased to 100GB-200GB (25GB per layer) in the future simply by adding more layers to the discs.

      So you would need at least 20 disks. Then there is the write time:

      1.7
      How fast can you read/write data on a Blu-ray disc?


      According to the Blu-ray Disc specification, 1x speed is defined as 36Mbps. However, as BD-ROM movies will require a 54Mbps data transfer rate the minimum speed we're expecting to see is 2x (72Mbps). Blu-ray also has the potential for much higher speeds, as a result of the larger numerical aperture (NA) adopted by Blu-ray Disc. The large NA value effectively means that Blu-ray will require less recording power and lower disc rotation speed than DVD and HD-DVD to achieve the same data transfer rate. While the media itself limited the recording speed in the past, the only limiting factor for Blu-ray is the capacity of the hardware. If we assume a maximum disc rotation speed of 10,000 RPM, then 12x at the outer diameter should be possible (about 400Mbps). This is why the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) already has plans to raise the speed to 8x (288Mbps) or more in the future.


      You could always just send the bare drives pre-cloned. You could use a SATA/ESATA USB dock similar to this http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Sa.../dp/B0012Z3MKW . It would no doubt even be cheaper in the long run. Definitely hold up better than plastic media.

      Then again if a kind soul out there had a Blu-Ray duplicator that would even be better.

      Then again make too many copies and folks could get into trouble.

      xor
      Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.

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      • #18
        Re: omfg... we practically have a second next-gen TTB completed

        any mods want to rename the title of this thread to "omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB" ?

        i ordered the enclosure tonight. we will definitely have both brand new TTBs at DEFCON and ready to rotate out to the field thanks to the wonderful support from all the people listed in the colorful post above.

        heh, it's been about 6 or 7 hours now... and we've only got about 250 GB transfered to the new drive. curse my reliance on USB instead of FireWire.

        seriously, though. thank you guys all so very, very much. when i see how many people step up to lend their support for the Traveling Terabyte Project it really gets me a tiny bit emotional... since all the result you personally ever see are these little photos i post of the units being built or the drives in use overseas.

        "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
        - Trent Reznor

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        • #19
          Re: omfg... we practically have a second next-gen TTB completed

          Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
          any mods want to rename the title of this thread to "omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB" ?
          Done. Congtats on this. :-)

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          • #20
            Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

            I can't wait to get one of these out to B0n3z, who just departed for his exotic desert vacation

            I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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            • #21
              Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

              just in case some folk didn't notice, there were more teaser photos above in the "units being built" links.

              heh, all those cardboard boxes are your doing, people! thanks so much for your support of the project and of our folk in uniform!
              "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
              - Trent Reznor

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              • #22
                Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                I'm just really glad to have been a part of the original TTB deliveries. Erehwon can receive the torch for this run. Hmmm do we need a ceremony for this? It must involve alcohol....

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                • #23
                  Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                  Originally posted by astcell View Post
                  I'm just really glad to have been a part of the original TTB deliveries. Erehwon can receive the torch for this run. Hmmm do we need a ceremony for this? It must involve alcohol....
                  Torches & alcohol make for awesome ceremonies.

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                  • #24
                    Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                    Originally posted by Schuyler View Post
                    Torches & alcohol make for awesome cremations.
                    Fixed that for you....

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                    • #25
                      Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                      in the words of Bender... "oh... your... god!"

                      we're there, people! barring any unforeseen disaster, we will have two of the new generation TTBs at DEFCON, they will be fully prepped and ready, they will perform some USO work for a short period, and then deploy out to Iraq and Afghanistan to tour active units.

                      a super huge thank you has to go out to one more person who has yet to come up in this conversation... Dave P.

                      one of the members of TOOOL, and a regular attendee and contributor to our local meetings here in Jersey, Dave made a personal sacrifice to help see this happen. when i ordered the last enclosure with the funds wonderfully donated by Charlene, Rover, Sereyna, & Dallas i was astonished to learn that this item is on major back-order (something their web site did not and still does not say) and won't be coming from Korea for at least 6 weeks.

                      I knew that there was one last chance to get a spare enclosure... Dave P was the fellow who turned me on to this case in the first place. and when i asked him, i learned that he still had one in use. he agreed to part with it for a time, until the new one arrives (which will then become a replacement for him) so that the Traveling Terabytes can achieve the uniformity necessary to look squared away and make servicing and general logistics easier.

                      Thank you again to Dave, AST, CharlieX, Schuyler, Erehwon, Charlene, Rover, Sereyna, & Dallas who made contributions of time, effort, or money. I would have never been able to build these latest TTBs without you.

                      And thank you to everyone who supports the project with good will, encouragement, publicity, and general community spirit.

                      I do think that as a special way to recognize people who have offered material contributions in addition to emotional ones, i will make up some TTB badges that can go next to your con badge and avatar badge if you're wearing one. If you spot someone wearing one, maybe offer them a drink? Your call... but i think they deserve it.

                      Thank you all again, from the bottom of my heart.
                      "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                      - Trent Reznor

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                      • #26
                        Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                        so, here's the rundown on what we've achieved...

                        content archive - DONE

                        new TTB #1... - DONE
                        [X] drive - DONE - thank you, AST!
                        [X] enclosure - DONE
                        [X] pelican case - DONE
                        [X] power items - DONE
                        [X] notepad - DONE
                        [X] content - DONE

                        new TTB #2... - DONE
                        [X] hard drive - DONE - thank you, CharlieX!
                        [X] enclosure - DONE - thank you, Charlene, Rover, Sereyna, Dallas, & Dave P!
                        [X] pelican case - DONE - thank you, Schuyler!
                        [X] power items - DONE
                        [X] notepad - DONE
                        [X] content - DONE

                        destinations - PLANNED - thank you, noid!

                        USO connection - HOPEFUL - thank you, erehwon!




                        Thank you again, everyone. I am truly, truly appreciative.
                        Last edited by Deviant Ollam; July 22, 2009, 15:04.
                        "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                        - Trent Reznor

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                        • #27
                          Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                          So do we like smash a bottle of champagne against it before we send it off?

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                          • #28
                            Re: omfg... we now have a second next-gen TTB

                            Originally posted by astcell View Post
                            So do we like smash a bottle of champagne against it before we send it off?
                            being as the Pelican cases are all waterproof, sure. we can do anything we like along those lines.
                            "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                            - Trent Reznor

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                            • #29
                              we are TOTALLY DONE with both next-gen cases

                              oh your god... still quite a site to see, and i still half-can't believe that you people pulled this off...




                              for those who are curious about some of the more specific benefits as far as tech specs are concerned in the new units... their overall size is 50% smaller in volume and they weigh 30% less than the original units we had before!
                              First-Gen Traveling Terabytes...
                              1008 cubic inches
                              10.4 pounds

                              Second-Gen Traveling Terabytes...
                              495 cubic inches
                              7.1 pounds



                              (i'm sure someone will alert me if i'm doing the math wrong there, heh)
                              "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                              - Trent Reznor

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