Technology and TEOTWAWKI

[Thorn]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

How do you like the solar trickle chargers?

M.

Love 'em. They're perfect to carry in a laptop bag/backpack. I also have some larger solar chargers. An SE-135 and SE-400. Both were made by Sunsei but have been discontinued and replaced by the SE-170 and the SE-500 models.

The biggest problem I have with solar is that in Vermont we only get about 33% direct sunlight during the average year, so I can't count on it if I really need it. The panels are great for maintaining a charge on a battery, as long as I'm not in a hurry.

[Melesse]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

I saw and read, but didn't want to rez the thread, and additionally wanted to push it in a slightly different direction. It of course ignored me, and went in it's own direction.

How do you like the solar trickle chargers?

M.

[Thorn]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

I ended up just getting two books on Emergency Preparedness, and neither really mentions much about technology. For informational purposes, the two books are Preparedness Now! by Aton Edwards, and the Crisis Preparedness Handbook, by Jack A. Spigarelli. I've gotten about halfway through Preparedness now, and it's not bad. It's very much a broader survey, and I disagree with some of his conclusions concerning personal defence and some of his "hardcore" methods, but it's a fairly good survey of alot of stuff people don't think about, and should. The second book seems to be mostly concerned with storing food for long periods at this point of the book.

I've read that Neil Strauss' Emergency was more about his mental state than much in the way of concrete information concerning survival in any adverse situation. That was one of the reasons I chose the above two books to start my research with, rather than Strauss.

The only thing involving technology that seems to crop up over and over is Ham Radio. It's becoming more apparent I might want to develop some expertise in this area. Convenient too, since it seems an awful lot of security conventions run Ham Radio exams during the gathering.

Other than that, all I have seen mentioned is solar panels for recharging batteries. I am looking into other, off the grid methods of power generation. I'd love to get some small windmills on my roof. I'm in Germany for two weeks for work, and there are solar panels and windmills everywhere!

M.

Yeah, Strauss' book is definitely more about the thought process than actual survival techniques, but it is interesting to see what his thinking is on certain subjects, and the choices he makes. He starts off utterly clueless, and then proceeds to some extremes, but he says what and why he's thinking along the way, and for that reason it's an interesting read.

Two great books on survivalism that I always recommend are both by the late Mel Tappan. The first is Survival Guns, and the second is Tappan on Survival.

BTW, TheCotMan started a thread similar to this back at the beginning of the year. You might want to check it out.

https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=10105

Edit: One other bit of info that may interest you: I have two of these combination solar charger/battery packs, that I keep to power my cell phone and other small devices in emergencies. http://store.solio.com/s.nl/it.A/id.259/.f

[Melesse]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

I ended up just getting two books on Emergency Preparedness, and neither really mentions much about technology. For informational purposes, the two books are Preparedness Now! by Aton Edwards, and the Crisis Preparedness Handbook, by Jack A. Spigarelli. I've gotten about halfway through Preparedness now, and it's not bad. It's very much a broader survey, and I disagree with some of his conclusions concerning personal defence and some of his "hardcore" methods, but it's a fairly good survey of alot of stuff people don't think about, and should. The second book seems to be mostly concerned with storing food for long periods at this point of the book.

I've read that Neil Strauss' Emergency was more about his mental state than much in the way of concrete information concerning survival in any adverse situation. That was one of the reasons I chose the above two books to start my research with, rather than Strauss.

The only thing involving technology that seems to crop up over and over is Ham Radio. It's becoming more apparent I might want to develop some expertise in this area. Convenient too, since it seems an awful lot of security conventions run Ham Radio exams during the gathering.

Other than that, all I have seen mentioned is solar panels for recharging batteries. I am looking into other, off the grid methods of power generation. I'd love to get some small windmills on my roof. I'm in Germany for two weeks for work, and there are solar panels and windmills everywhere!

M.

[shrdlu]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Just curious, after 2012, are there anymore apocalyptic dates we have to be worried about? Hopefully 2012 with be the end of it's all going to end.

You're kidding, right? Everyone knows the world ends in 2038.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

[Thorn]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Just curious, after 2012, are there anymore apocalyptic dates we have to be worried about? Hopefully 2012 with be the end of it's all going to end.

xor

2013, because it's the first 13 in the new century, hell the new millennium! Surely, the world will end then.

[xor]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Just curious, after 2012, are there anymore apocalyptic dates we have to be worried about? Hopefully 2012 with be the end of it's all going to end.

xor

[AgentDarkApple]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

If you're serious about learning survival skills, I recommend the US Army Ranger Handbook http://www.scribd.com/doc/100893/ebo...anger-Handbook and FM 21-76 (US Army Survival Manual) http://www.scribd.com/doc/299034/FM-...urvival-Manual

As for technology, I am also looking into getting some solar panels. I've made note of places from which I can "borrow" them in the event of a dire emergency (US Geological Survey has several small ones scattered around here).

[Thorn]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

I just finished reading Neil Strauss' EMERGENCY, ISBN: 978-0-06-089877-9 which was recommended and loaned to me by someone else on the forums. It's an interesting read, as you watch Strauss go from a clueless sheeple to a hardcore survivalist. Although it isn't a survival manual, it does have some interesting tidbits, and he reveals a lot of his thinking along the way and how that influenced his choices in gear and training.

[barry99705]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Haha :-)

I suggest getting an H1N1 flu shot for survival preparation. A doctor once told me that "microbes ruled the world, not people".

xor

Screw that!! Every time I got a flu shot I got sick. I'm still saving up my pennies to get a blade from zombie tools.

I just started it the other week, oddly enough, while watching The Colony on Discovery.

Don't tell Render or theprez that.

Are those varmints two or four legged?

Heh, both!

[xor]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Speaking of getting shot, I'm heading up to the Gun Show in Lebanon next weekend if you're interested in tagging along, as well as anyone else from Defcon that might be in the area.

I'm looking to get a Mini-14 for varmits.

Keep me posted, sounds like a plan.

A true sign the end of the world is coming, the 3g spectrum is getting filled up .... perhaps I should prepare :-)

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353216,00.asp

Damm I-Phone users, it's all your fault Dakahuna. {xor hides his HTC Pro 2}

xor

[Thorn]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Speaking of getting shot, I'm heading up to the Gun Show in Lebanon next weekend if you're interested in tagging along, as well as anyone else from Defcon that might be in the area.

I'm looking to get a Mini-14 for varmits.

Are those varmints two or four legged?

[streaker69]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Haha :-)

I suggest getting an H1N1 flu shot for survival preparation. A doctor once told me that "microbes ruled the world, not people".

xor

Speaking of getting shot, I'm heading up to the Gun Show in Lebanon next weekend if you're interested in tagging along, as well as anyone else from Defcon that might be in the area.

I'm looking to get a Mini-14 for varmits.

[xor]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

No, I believe it's about surviving until then. ;)

Haha :-)

I suggest getting an H1N1 flu shot for survival preparation. A doctor once told me that "microbes ruled the world, not people".

xor

[streaker69]

Re: Technology and TEOTWAWKI

Please tell me this has nothing to do with 2012?

xor

No, I believe it's about surviving until then. ;)