Hey, TI, Leave Those Kids Alone (URL1)
Again, we see attempts used to make the DMCA into a stick to whack the inquisitive and discourage examination and reverse engineering. Is it possible that we have created laws that deny ourselves the opportunity to understand how things work?
Patents and Copyrights exist to permit legalized monopoly over a work or idea for a specific duration of time. Arguments for adding laws to enforce the legitimacy of monopolies have been proposed to allow the person or business that created the work to be compensated for their work, and this was later altered to permit the surviving heirs to extend Copyright and monopoly to get compensated for the work of someone they are related to by marriage, adoption, or genetics.
Copyright has provided us with legal exceptions for, "fair use," to permit us to copy content. Patents allow for monopoly for a relatively short time compared to present copyright law with extensions.
Attempts to use the DMCA to legally challenge people's attempts to examine hidden content (successful or not) can be harmful to consumers. Is a product harmful? Does the product do anything it is not supposed to do or expected to do? Is the product harmful? Without the opportunity to explore products to see how they are made we, as consumers, are expected to comply with the Oh-So-Bad security model of, "trusting the client." Do businesses really have a great track record with producing secure products that are truly free of defects and bugs?
No, and no, and no, and no... and on and on.
When people or businesses attempt to use the DMCA to punish people's attempts to understand a product, they can attempt to hide their own defects and deny consumers opportunity to make informed decisions using sources beyond the client (producer) that is expecting them to trust the client (producer.)
Some may say, 'the DMCA 1201(f) "Reverse Engineering"' (url2) allows for reverse engineering of products that were legally obtained for the purpose of providing interoperability with unrelated software and the device. However, the people that have been served with Cease and Desist orders are penalized through fines payed for legal representation.
What does this say? This says the same kinds of legal abuse, where individuals are fined through being forced to hire legal representation can also appear under other sections of DMCA 1201 like section (g) on "Encryption Research" and punish people for even getting a story about it on the news.
Some would say that posting to a security mailing list frequented by both law abiding citizens and computer criminals would not satisfy the above option for exemption. They might say only dissemination to a group totally free of people that might use it illegally would be acceptable. Do criminals pay attention to the news?
The case doesn't even need to be successfully won by the businesses looking to protect their assets. The act of forcing people to pay "fine" through legal representation in court is a sufficient cost to help discourage attempts at investigation.
How much does DMCA harm security? What do you think? Are there any ways that security is improved when there exist legal threats to discourage examination of products? Is there any legal measure beyond lawsuit that could immediately and automatically penalize businesses or individuals that try to use legal proceedings to "fine" people through being forced to hire legal representatives?
(Also on Slashdot on September 21, 2009.)
Originally posted by URL1
Patents and Copyrights exist to permit legalized monopoly over a work or idea for a specific duration of time. Arguments for adding laws to enforce the legitimacy of monopolies have been proposed to allow the person or business that created the work to be compensated for their work, and this was later altered to permit the surviving heirs to extend Copyright and monopoly to get compensated for the work of someone they are related to by marriage, adoption, or genetics.
Copyright has provided us with legal exceptions for, "fair use," to permit us to copy content. Patents allow for monopoly for a relatively short time compared to present copyright law with extensions.
Attempts to use the DMCA to legally challenge people's attempts to examine hidden content (successful or not) can be harmful to consumers. Is a product harmful? Does the product do anything it is not supposed to do or expected to do? Is the product harmful? Without the opportunity to explore products to see how they are made we, as consumers, are expected to comply with the Oh-So-Bad security model of, "trusting the client." Do businesses really have a great track record with producing secure products that are truly free of defects and bugs?
No, and no, and no, and no... and on and on.
When people or businesses attempt to use the DMCA to punish people's attempts to understand a product, they can attempt to hide their own defects and deny consumers opportunity to make informed decisions using sources beyond the client (producer) that is expecting them to trust the client (producer.)
Some may say, 'the DMCA 1201(f) "Reverse Engineering"' (url2) allows for reverse engineering of products that were legally obtained for the purpose of providing interoperability with unrelated software and the device. However, the people that have been served with Cease and Desist orders are penalized through fines payed for legal representation.
What does this say? This says the same kinds of legal abuse, where individuals are fined through being forced to hire legal representation can also appear under other sections of DMCA 1201 like section (g) on "Encryption Research" and punish people for even getting a story about it on the news.
Originally posted by url2
The case doesn't even need to be successfully won by the businesses looking to protect their assets. The act of forcing people to pay "fine" through legal representation in court is a sufficient cost to help discourage attempts at investigation.
How much does DMCA harm security? What do you think? Are there any ways that security is improved when there exist legal threats to discourage examination of products? Is there any legal measure beyond lawsuit that could immediately and automatically penalize businesses or individuals that try to use legal proceedings to "fine" people through being forced to hire legal representatives?
(Also on Slashdot on September 21, 2009.)
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