speaking of how....

[encieno]

fuck all that bullshit.

i think what i'm going to end up doing is taking a fuckin bus ride to lake mead/hoover dam, they're cheap and somthing to do. haha. fuck all the high dollar bus rides, i'll go check out the canyon next year when i get my license back and can drive myself down there =] i think the few others i've spoke with are wanting to do the hoov3r deal to.. so it should be all good.

plane leaving: 11 days 12 hours 9 minutes!

[astcell]

Be sure to get to Walden's Pond. I'll catch up to you in about 11 years.

[chrisp]

bye bye cali

I've done my time here in the socialist republic of Kalifornia. Now it's time to try the other coast to see what kind of havoc I can raise there.

I must say I am rather looking forward to living in a state where I don't entirely feel like I am just a criminal waiting to be arrested.

Take a close look at the collective laws in Cali. Read between the lines. I swear that if you dig deep enough that you will find that having an IQ > a rock is a serious crime. If it wasn't, why would everything even remotely stupid be illegal.

Cali is under the strong mis-conception that they can defeat Darwin with social coddling.

bye bye

[astcell]

Out of Cali? Why so? I told my wife we're leave when the stop signs go bilingual.

[chrisp]

pre-DCX celebrations

I haven't figured out exactly when I'm getting in. I think my reservations start wed night. Since Defcon is literaly a stop in my move from one coast to the other, I'm going to have a lot of odds and ends on hand including a stereo that could probably get us evicted from all of LV. I'll keep track of where you are at, but at the moment I'm out of cali as soon as possible.

Chris

[encieno]

Originally posted by astcell
So if it crashes do we at least get a partial refund?

maybe they'll be a corporate sponsor for you're funeral =]

[astcell]

So if it crashes do we at least get a partial refund?

[dataworm]

Originally posted by encieno


haha. true there. thats like, once i was at the store buying some beer, i was deciding over bud light which was $18.xx for a 20 pack, or, a 30 pack of bud dry which was 12.99. i was asking my friend "which one man" , than this old guy comes up "ahh, dont buy that cheap shit, buy the good shit. you only live once" haha, ever since that time, i never look twice at the cheap shiet, if i die tomorrow, i'd be pissed as fuck if my last beer was a nasty ass cheap fucker. other than that. how much are the heli rides? 4.5 hours in it? 4 hour helicopter ride? haha. i'm confused. i actually havent even looked into the elite copter's. i think already for dcx, i've only spent about $600 and im not even there yet, haha. reserving rooms, plane ticket. shite. it's going to cost another 5-600 once i get out there for the rooms, but atleast half of that will be split up for the most part =]

As i said it's about 100$/hours so the 4.5 hours trip is about 450$... on the same rules for 2.5 hours trip is't about 250$... I think this rules work for most Helicopter trip to Grand Canyon... Of course you can find cheap 15 minute ride that go to about 100$ for 15 minute or maybe 30 minute... that from the Grand Canyon directly but do you really want to waste 1 day travelling in bus to go there? not sure exactly how far is it from vegas but i think it's like 6 hours of bus.. but i am really not sure... I'll put a couple of link to different compagny... the one i was thinking was maverick

Maverick
http://www.maverickhelicopter.com/
From lasvegas
about 100$/hours trip that go from 2.5 to 4.5 hours
Some trip include champain breakfast in the middle of the Grand Canyon

Flyjenai
From the grand canyon directly
http://www.flykenai.com/
105$ for 25-30 minute, 164$ for 40-45 minute

Papillon
http://www.papillon.com/
(for the record) The one that crashed last year
From vegas:
about 320$ for 3.5 hours from hotel to hotel( they take you at your hotel in taxi
Some trip include stuff in the grandcanyon... ex: rafting, dinner at a ranch,...
From grandcanyon
about 170$ for 45-50 minute

Don't have more time gotta go so i'll paste the other link fast
http://www.looktours.com/heli4.html
http://www.airvegas.com/helicopter-tours.html
http://www.heliusa.net/t_gc.htm
http://www.grandcanyontourcompany.com/helo.htm

[encieno]

Originally posted by dataworm

I think my record of sleep at defcon is like 8 hours... well by record i mean it's the maximum number of hours i sleeped in that 3 day defcon :) hard to go work after that !!

i cant even remember how much i slept while out there. i was always to intoxicated to even remember going to sleep. haha.

[dataworm]

Originally posted by astcell
I lost lots of fun time because I had the idea that I got the hotel too to sleep. Since I don't care if I sleep this year, I won't expect to.

Any other legal events going on within the hotel grounds that may not be in the Program brochure?

I think my record of sleep at defcon is like 8 hours... well by record i mean it's the maximum number of hours i sleeped in that 3 day defcon :) hard to go work after that !!

[astcell]

For our signature block I wish we had a script that would calculate the time between now and the con and post it as a T minus and counting. :)

[encieno]

oh yeah.

as the posting of this message, my plane leaves in:
14days 23hours 20mins 46secs =]

[encieno]

Originally posted by dataworm


Yup that why taking helicopter from Las Vegas is nice... 2.5hours to 4.5hours tours... but it's about 100$/hours... Ok if you do the math.... Blackhat + Defcon + Air plane + Drink + food + hotel + HElicopter trip to Grand Canyon it my be scary ... but remove the Grand Canyon trip and it's still scary... Bah what is 400$ in a life time? you'll only do it once!:p

haha. true there. thats like, once i was at the store buying some beer, i was deciding over bud light which was $18.xx for a 20 pack, or, a 30 pack of bud dry which was 12.99. i was asking my friend "which one man" , than this old guy comes up "ahh, dont buy that cheap shit, buy the good shit. you only live once" haha, ever since that time, i never look twice at the cheap shiet, if i die tomorrow, i'd be pissed as fuck if my last beer was a nasty ass cheap fucker. other than that. how much are the heli rides? 4.5 hours in it? 4 hour helicopter ride? haha. i'm confused. i actually havent even looked into the elite copter's. i think already for dcx, i've only spent about $600 and im not even there yet, haha. reserving rooms, plane ticket. shite. it's going to cost another 5-600 once i get out there for the rooms, but atleast half of that will be split up for the most part =]

[dataworm]

Originally posted by encieno


hmm. i think i'll just drink anheuser busch products instead. haha.
nah but, grand canyon sounds elite, the tours are like ... ugh, 14 hours i've read? thats a long waste of a day =]

Yup that why taking helicopter from Las Vegas is nice... 2.5hours to 4.5hours tours... but it's about 100$/hours... Ok if you do the math.... Blackhat + Defcon + Air plane + Drink + food + hotel + HElicopter trip to Grand Canyon it my be scary ... but remove the Grand Canyon trip and it's still scary... Bah what is 400$ in a life time? you'll only do it once!:p

[astcell]

The con is too short as it is! I hope to find some Anchor Steam brew there. The coffee wars will wake me up.