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  • #1

    More TSA Fail.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588483,00.html

    Originally posted by Teaser
    The Transportation Security Administration said it is investigating, but that it appeared the incident was an unintentional human error.

    Day said passengers weren't in any danger because no one could have known their bags were not scanned.

    "No one checking in could have known that their bag was not going to be checked so you could not have used this to foil the system," Day said.
    I'm sure we can all see the idiocy in this statement.

    No one could have known the bags weren't scanned except for the human that made the "error". What kind of process is in place to prevent someone on the inside from creating the error so bad items could be smuggled on board?

    Or should I just put on my TFB?
    A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.
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    Re: More TSA Fail.

    Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588483,00.html



    I'm sure we can all see the idiocy in this statement.

    No one could have known the bags weren't scanned except for the human that made the "error". What kind of process is in place to prevent someone on the inside from creating the error so bad items could be smuggled on board?

    Or should I just put on my TFB?
    Common sense is not permitted!
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    • #3
      Re: More TSA Fail.

      Originally posted by theprez98 View Post
      Common sense is not permitted!
      Here here! These statements are to be taken at face value and we are to rest assured that no one on the inside can create this kind of "error"... Because everyone on the inside is screened, trained and committed enough to ensure our safety and enjoyable traveling experience.

      They really need to pick better spokesholes to speak with the media on these issues. I know I'm not the only one who is not in any way comforted by the statements in this article alone.

      Originally posted by Kim Day
      a couple thousands of bags over a couple of days.
      I'm sorry, did you say a couple thousand?
      Originally posted by TSA
      investigating, but that it appeared the incident was an unintentional human error.
      And what's to stop someone from intentionally replicating said error? Care to let the flying public in on what steps are actually being taken?
      Originally posted by Kim Day
      No one checking in could have known that their bag was not going to be checked so you could not have used this to foil the system
      So in essence you're saying that the potential for someone attempting to sneak something by regardless of screening... for example... I don't know... a bomb in their underpants never occurred to you people?
      Originally posted by Article
      A United spokeswoman told The Associated Press on Monday she could not verify the report. She declined to comment further.
      perhaps the one smart statement of the lot. but an apology to the public might be nice, perhaps owning up to the situation? No? Okay then.
      Originally posted by TSA
      took steps to ensure the error was corrected and that additional safeguards were put in place.
      Such as? I understand the need to keep some details private, but come on. Magical rainbow power? A cigar smoking chimp? Give an example of what the hell our money is going to you people for.

      And that's my rant. The idiocy of some of the statements released and the people they parade around to make everyone "feel better" is ridiculous to me. Denver Airport and the TSA for that matter are damn lucky nothing happened with these flights. It's just blind, dumb luck at this point.
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      • #4
        Re: More TSA Fail.

        Originally posted by sintax_error View Post
        Denver Airport and the TSA for that matter are damn lucky nothing happened with these flights. It's just blind, dumb luck at this point.
        We don't know that nothing bad happened. Maybe 500 of those bags had large quantities of cocaine in them? I find it incredulous that an error like this could occur in the first place. Did someone check the box on their application that turned screening off? Why were there no cross checks to ensure the system was working as planned.
        A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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        • #5
          Re: More TSA Fail.

          Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
          We don't know that nothing bad happened. Maybe 500 of those bags had large quantities of cocaine in them?
          heh, some of us would consider that to be "nothing bad happening" at all.

          in my definition, as long as nothing harmful to the aircraft and its journey gets on the plane, then nothing bad happened.

          one could make the argument that if 500 bags with cocaine went through the system then it's actually what some of us have been crying out for over the years... a reduction in the War on Drugs being mixed up with the War on Terror as far as resources and investigation of Americans is concerned. but sheer incompetence isn't what most of us hope for, i think, in contrast with actual budget changes and policy shifts.
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          • #6
            Re: More TSA Fail.

            Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
            heh, some of us would consider that to be "nothing bad happening" at all.

            in my definition, as long as nothing harmful to the aircraft and its journey gets on the plane, then nothing bad happened.

            one could make the argument that if 500 bags with cocaine went through the system then it's actually what some of us have been crying out for over the years... a reduction in the War on Drugs being mixed up with the War on Terror as far as resources and investigation of Americans is concerned. but sheer incompetence isn't what most of us hope for, i think, in contrast with actual budget changes and policy shifts.
            Ok, let me come up with something that will get adequate outrage.

            Guns, Nope.
            explosives, probably not.
            Pot, Nope.
            midgets, nope.

            Let's say they smuggled 500 lolcats in such a way that the lolcats weren't comfortable, does that raise your ire? :)

            On a side note, the other day I was thinking about the big push to legalize marijuana and something hit me that maybe the people that are pushing for it didn't think of.

            If the feds make it legal, so that it can be taxed, they most certainly aren't going to allow backyard gardens of it, after all that cuts into their ability to tax it. So they'll only allow certain companies to grow it. So all the big tobacco companies are just going to change crops and start growing it.

            Many of the same people that want it legalized, also hate big tobacco. Kind of puts them in a odd spot, don't ya think?

            We now return to you to your regularly scheduled thread.
            A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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            • #7
              Re: More TSA Fail.

              You're both right. In the fact that nothing bad happened to the planes, or their passengers/crew. However, 500 bags of Florida snow, in the US market would certainly not a good thing. Sure some if it is going to actors, politicians, people who just don't give a damn about the "War on Drugs", big deal. But the other side of that coin is of course that some of that would inevitably get to kids, and then there's the edge of the coin that's who would be getting funded by the sale of these hypothetical bags of nose candy. So yeah, 500 bags of blow getting smuggled aboard wouldn't be a good thing, but as far as the plane and it's safety, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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              • #8
                Re: More TSA Fail.

                http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03...otage_charges/

                Forty-six-year-old Douglas James Duchak, who worked as a TSA contractor for five years, planted the malicious code in the server used to maintain the database in mid October, a week after he was told his employment would be terminated at the end of the month, according to documents filed in US District Court in Colorado.
                I have a real problem with companies that do this. Why would you give someone the opportunity to do this? If you're eliminating the position, and they cannot be gotten rid of immediately, they should probably have limited his access to any vital assets.

                Myself, I got burned by this as well, and learned the lesson the hard way. Didn't lose data, but lost time recovering deleted data. I think that if for some reason they can't get rid of him immediately just put him in a room by himself for the remaining time, or just pay him for the remaining time while he sits at home. Anything is better than letting someone have access and the potential to do damage.
                A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                • #9
                  Re: More TSA Fail.

                  For all those really daring folk that fly, get one of these and pack it in your carry on.

                  http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/d0a5/
                  A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                  • #10
                    Re: More TSA Fail.

                    Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
                    For all those really daring folk that fly, get one of these and pack it in your carry on.

                    http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/d0a5/
                    Nah, place it in boss' carry-on.
                    Thorn
                    "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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                    • #11
                      Re: More TSA Fail.

                      Originally posted by Thorn View Post
                      Nah, place it in boss' carry-on.
                      Nah. That's only deserving of you closest of friends' carry-on.

                      This, however, can go in the boss' laptop bag.

                      Long link: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/a...6/?cpg=froogle
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                      • #12
                        Re: More TSA Fail.

                        [really bad male humor]

                        I personally like throwing a little gun powder, and ammonium nitrate over my shoulder, for luck before flying. Instead of wearing a sandal wood cologne, I prefer spritzing myself with a ode da la diesel fuel. Chicks on airplanes dig it. It screams hey baby, that's an IED in my underpants, and I'm happy to see you. Lets go ride the virgin train together.

                        [/really bad male humor]

                        xor
                        Last edited by xor; March 25, 2010, 05:25.
                        Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.

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                        • #13
                          Re: More TSA Fail.

                          Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
                          For all those really daring folk that fly, get one of these and pack it in your carry on.

                          http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/d0a5/
                          I've always been partial to getting something like this for a carry on.
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                          • #14
                            Re: More TSA Fail.

                            I don't know if the TSA is directly involved in this or not, but it is most curious that the bags in question were only in the hands of airline baggage handlers and the guns went missing.

                            http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...edName=topNews

                            When the two suitcases were reopened in Washington, the four guns from one bag were discovered to be missing, but it remained unknown where along the line the firearms were taken, the source said.
                            I don't think this is the first time that I've heard about Isreali body guards guns going missing during a visit to the US.
                            A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                            • #15
                              Re: More TSA Fail.

                              I'm going to have to add a tamper evident seal to my gun case :(
                              Originally posted by Ellen
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