New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

[renakuzar]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Okay, as was stated by many commenters, my last post / poll on the con CD's was very much a binary question of "CD or no CD".

So here's a more open question, folks. It's very clear that folks would like some way to get preview DefCon talk / contest / puzzle / karaoke when they arrive at Con.

On the other hand, a number of people seemed to feel that meatspace media is not necessarily how they'd like to see it.

So, how would you like to see your DefCon served up at reg time?

I like the CD myself, not just for the talks which I've found to be mostly up to date, but for the music, the schematics, the code etc, and the searchable/readable program (last years was an eye strain.)

[Xeon]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

I just filled ~200 USB drives for a conference. Split between 5 people it took approx 1.5 hours. This was with frequent talking/socializing.

Also, must these choices be mutually exclusive?

(Say, couldn't we hand out USB drives and put the content under a copyleft license and put it all on P2P?)

(Also, P2P will help with bandwidth costs tremendously)

Just be sure that you know what you're getting (MD5, or something) in case one of your peers decides a reverse shell PDF exploit sounds fun and they want to try it. (Check out some of the social engineering toolkit videos)

Another idea that I quickly dropped was having consoles where you could put in your own CD/USB drive and it would copy the data. It would be interesting to see how long those would last.

[RuckusKnight]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

I just filled ~200 USB drives for a conference. Split between 5 people it took approx 1.5 hours. This was with frequent talking/socializing.

Also, must these choices be mutually exclusive?

(Say, couldn't we hand out USB drives and put the content under a copyleft license and put it all on P2P?)

(Also, P2P will help with bandwidth costs tremendously)

[theprez98]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

I'd say 80% might even be too low. The only ones I ever see that are 100% done are talks that were presented at other cons. Which are also on the sites of the other cons they were presented at anyway.

I have given the same "topic" talk before at more than one con and even then I still change the slides, sometimes considerably.

[Dark Tangent]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Was kidding. Seems like 9/10 of hacker cons have some freebie from Monster or RedBull or Brawndo or somesuch. NotaCon had free Cocaine one year.

Doesn that mean 9/10th of all cons are "sell outs"? Or is that a distinction people don't care about any more?

[sk00t]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Like mine, for example. Even though my slides are probably closer to being a finished product that most, they're already out of date.

I'd say 80% might even be too low. The only ones I ever see that are 100% done are talks that were presented at other cons. Which are also on the sites of the other cons they were presented at anyway.

[sk00t]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Do you REALLY want your DEF CON badge brought to you by Carl's Jr.?

So kidding, sorry. Oh well. Larger point, minimal votes for CD.

[sk00t]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

"Flash / thumb drive sponsored by some energy drink company"

I thought DefCon itself wouldn't have corporate sponsors... So if you did this, that could very quickly become a slippery slope.

Was kidding. Seems like 9/10 of hacker cons have some freebie from Monster or RedBull or Brawndo or somesuch. NotaCon had free Cocaine one year.

[Nikita]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Because the "Like" button gets people in trouble...

I'd click to like like you highwiz.

[Nikita]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

[QUOTE=TheCotMan;115074
Maybe you were just commenting about his post, and not really asking for this feature. If that is the case: Ignore this: Move along. Nothing to see here.[/QUOTE]

Yeah....I'm walking fast...very very fast away from this, I'm blind, I see NOTHING. /me prays this never really becomes a feature ever.

[HighWiz]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Why the hell can't we have a "Like" Button on the forums. I would so click it.

Because the "Like" button gets people in trouble...

[TheCotMan]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Why the hell can't we have a "Like" Button on the forums. I would so click it.

The forums have a user rating system, but we don't have it enabled:
1) We would not use the data provided by it to take automatic actions.
2) It would become a popularity contest and would probably encourage scene whoring or stupid high school social drama more than we have now.
3) Prejudice being what it is, once someone earned a low enough score, a "mob mentality" would probably appear with non-mods harassing the low-scoring user because of the low score, returning us to the flame-fest the forums once were.

I think there were plans (discussed) to support user rating of posts, so users can set a threshold and skip posts not +rated enough to meet their threshold (like slashdot) but that is also a bad idea for a "hacker forum" because we would end up with too many users +rating the latest "OMG Defcon is teh cancelled" link using a URL shortener that takes the viewer to a youtube video of LOL-cats, or pictures like goatse that have made their rounds.

Any mod that wants to revisit these feature can bring it up with the other mods any time they want, but I doubt they will -- these features have been discussed several times.

Maybe you were just commenting about his post, and not really asking for this feature. If that is the case: Ignore this: Move along. Nothing to see here.

[Nikita]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

It's right under the one for punch cards and above the mag stripe.

The money you would save in NOT doing USB sticks you could buy enough 12 drive CD/DVD dupers and produce the CDs on demand the day before con and still have money left over.

Why the hell can't we have a "Like" Button on the forums. I would so click it.

[Dark Tangent]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Where's the button for 8" floppies?

It's right under the one for punch cards and above the mag stripe.

The money you would save in NOT doing USB sticks you could buy enough 12 drive CD/DVD dupers and produce the CDs on demand the day before con and still have money left over.

[astcell]

Re: New poll: What format would you like for your DefCon media?

Where's the button for 8" floppies?