DC19 Network

[priest]

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The only bummer bout the Encrypted network is that it kind of kills the Wall of Sheep which is always a hoot!

Hey Lock! Look! They bought it! They actually think that the Encrypted network is really safe!!! Wait... Did I just post this publicly...? Aw crap! Why did you disable edit!?! Curse you LOCKHEED!

Seriously folks just remember what Lock really said about the encrypted network...

[YenTheFirst]

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Maybe it's just my sucky laptop, but every year, getting a working connection to WiFi and to the outside world has been a bit of a crapshoot.

I'd like to see more, distributed access points (possibly on different channels, I don't know if this is already happening), and possibly wired connections.

Then again, if it's only me having the problems, feel free to ignore ;)

[Lockheed]

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I think we'll do both - give people pre-gen'd creds at reg - and also allow them to sign-up themselves.

[HighWiz]

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So did you guys finally decide how you're doing the credentials?

[not5150]

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heh... bring back the DriftNet wall.

Man I remember this at the AP... it was my first Defcon and I was sitting in the back with my Shuttle PC.

I was the one feeding images of NSA, FBI and State Department to get people interested and then I'd hit the wall with midget pics and other unsightly stuff.

Good Times

[HighWiz]

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Question:

We're still doing the secure wifi - it's something enough people want that it's worth providing. The question on the table for ya'll is: Do you want us to pre-gen unique login credentials and hand them out at reg with your badge - or do you want to gen your own (like we did last year).

Or does it matter to you?

Either way, It's a Trap!

[qumqats]

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I'm suspicious of anything handed to me at DC. I won a 8G USB flash drive last year and I STILL haven't plugged it into anything. It needs to be sanitized first!

[AlxRogan]

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Question:

We're still doing the secure wifi - it's something enough people want that it's worth providing. The question on the table for ya'll is: Do you want us to pre-gen unique login credentials and hand them out at reg with your badge - or do you want to gen your own (like we did last year).

Or does it matter to you?

I prefer gen your own, simply because I don't want to have to "go to this place, do this" physically.

I didn't use the secure wifi last year, but I am giving it consideration this year.

[Lockheed]

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Question:

We're still doing the secure wifi - it's something enough people want that it's worth providing. The question on the table for ya'll is: Do you want us to pre-gen unique login credentials and hand them out at reg with your badge - or do you want to gen your own (like we did last year).

Or does it matter to you?

[dklinedinst]

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Dear Network Gods,
I'm going to run an IDS and visualization tool on whatever WiFi traffic I can capture ([un]official forum at https://forum.defcon.org/forumdisplay.php?f=600).

I'd be more than happy to coordinate with y'all if you want to give me access to a SPAN port or something. Or if you want me to gather certain information from the IDS... I'll be using Bro which is sorta like netflow + snort + layer 7 switch + steroids....

Ping me at dan at bizling dot com if I can help.

Also: thanks for the work y'all do every year.

Dan

[Deviant Ollam]

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heh... bring back the DriftNet wall.

[Bbox]

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So should there be a wide area freeforall network that gets fed to wall of sheep, open to all, and the secured network that you create or get a pre-generated password for?

Yes Sir Boss! Pass as much to the wall of sheep as possible. Its a great way of seeing how secure things really are and a great teaching opportunity to those who want to understand the methods and techniques used to capture data.

It is also a perfect situation for comparing and testing the many tools available for sniffing packets.

Maybe the con should not even offer a secured network. It's almost like offering training wheels to the tour de France riders.

[The Dark Tangent]

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So should there be a wide area freeforall network that gets fed to wall of sheep, open to all, and the secured network that you create or get a pre-generated password for?

[ButterSnatcher]

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I see why the secured network isn't touched in terms of the wall of sheep though i believe it should be as it offers a false sense of security. If there running there own security show them on the board whats happening. Speaking of which im not sure how im going to get it down there but i have a spare server not sure if your running any sort of rules on the line but its fairly new and pretty powerful i use it for development purposes and wouldn't mind seeing its potential, thats if i find a low cost method of transportation without it getting destroyed

[Bbox]

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I agree with Forty Seven. The Wall of Sheep activity was limited based on the secured network and the decision (of the powers to be) to not mess with the secured network.