Shirt design ideas

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Got a pretty decent set for the ten ring thought recently.



If anyone wants to take the time to clean up the color on the 9/10 rings and make the center more silkscreen friendly, or just wants to use this as a starting point, PM me for the original (big ass) image.

As for my input on the Dos Equis Guy design:
-put his other arm back in
-give his suit jacket the same grey outline as the gun, make background black. (how many of us wear white shirts regularly?)
-change the silenced handgun to a MAC-11, Micro Uzi or the like. (to fit the "full auto" statement.)
-Modify slogan to read something such as: "I don't always shoot in the desert... But when I do, I prefer full auto." to fill the top segment of the image
-In addition to the above, swap the "the DEFCON XX Unofficial Shoot" as a part of the statement for a logo, perhaps something such as:
"DEFCON
XX (large, red, and squat, to fill the same width and height as DEFCON)
SHOOT" also filling that same width. keeping it where it is, placing the dates under it
-Add to the bottom something to the effect of: "Stay loaded, my friends."
I can try to find the time to modify some of it myself if needed, but that's a scarce commodity these days. Side note, Dos Equis uses a disturbingly similar typeface to that of the Equate brand (font commercially available for a small license fee I'm not willing to pay.)

As for the legality of using the Dos Equis intellectual property, it should be fine, as it's clearly a parody, and using only enough of the original content to bring to mind the popular Dos Equis Commercials.* There are several court cases that have set precedence in favor of parody authors available with a quick Google search.

*I am not a lawyer

[seeess]

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Thoughts?

Very nice, here are some ideas/thoughts

I would remove the "unofficial", that makes it sound like there is an official shoot and last year's shirt didn't say "unofficial"

I think he needs a left arm (on the right of the photo). Did you remove it so the pistol stands out more? see here

the "but when I do" is normally the start of the second part of the meme on the bottom (bottom right in this case) section.

I'd like to see the "full auto" get worked into the second half of the text but I don't have a recommendation on how to do that (and include the "defcon XX shoot las vegas nv july 26 2012")

[wrøng!]

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Thoughts?

[wrøng!]

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Haha that's awesome. Or two, w/ suppressors, crossed! DOS EQUIS

Going off this idea from seeess, I'll see if I can put something together with the Dos Equis guy within the next few days. Might be tough, getting it to look decent without being a full color photo (something that wouldn't work well on a shirt). Before I do that though, does anyone know of any legal problems with doing that? I mean it's just a picture of a guy w/ a parody slogan so I wouldn't think so, but sometimes stuff like that can be tricky. Also I guess I should ask if anyone else likes the idea. Don't want to waste a bunch of time if people hate it. Let me know.

[astcell]

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Since the scoring rings have numbers in them, I wonder if we can put in "1%" somewhere somehow.

[wrøng!]

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And I think it is required that he have a gun in his hand above the table.

Haha that's awesome. Or two, w/ suppressors, crossed! DOS EQUIS

[seeess]

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Suppressed full auto

And I think it is required that he have a gun in his hand above the table.

[inert]

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Another idea came to me today: Since this is DEFCON 20 - Roman Numeral "XX", we could play off the meme of Dos Equis. "I don't always go FULL AUTO in the desert, but when I do it's at DEFCON XX" ...... "Stay frosty my friends"

That's money!

[wrøng!]

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Another idea came to me today: Since this is DEFCON 20 - Roman Numeral "XX", we could play off the meme of Dos Equis. "I don't always go FULL AUTO in the desert, but when I do it's at DEFCON XX" ...... "Stay frosty my friends"

[seeess]

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I'll throw a few more ideas that could be tweaked into something more usable.

A protestor holding up their fist is a popular recognizable image. We could do that except have them hold up a suppressed pistol similar to this shirt


Or we can go for something minimal that only gun people might get. For ideas on that see



and

[Deviant Ollam]

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Should the volunteer ROs have shirts that are a different color / different design?

i think it's totally fine for RSOs or staff to have the option to get an additional/alternate shirt, but then that does necessitate involving me (or at least my staff list) so keep me in the loop when production time comes. i'm more than happy to share/authenticate if someone says they're on the list... but i'd rather not take the role of keeping track of who wants what, which sizes, etc.

Also, when people are actually on the range all RSOs have orange mesh vests and Staff wear yellow mesh vests. Thus, everyone can always identify them under any conditions (even if they don't but a shoot shirt)

I'm really pleased at how things are shaping up with the shirts, etc. I'm glad that you folk have it under control, it's really wonderful to not have to plan this part of the Shoot anymore.

[DaKahuna]

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If anyone wants to incorporate real targets with real bullet holes in them let me know.

I go to a local range almost every weekend and can print out any 8.5x11 taget anyone sends and put real holes in it.

[wrøng!]

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Should the volunteer ROs have shirts that are a different color / different design?

Does anyone have any additional input for the design? I realize it is still early but I don't think it's a bad thing to have plans laid out in advance.

[wrøng!]

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Right on, I guess we just need to determine what design to go with. I was waiting to see if anyone else would post some designs but I'm not sure at what point we want to cut it off and send one to the print shop.

Should we take a vote or something? Wait longer? We do still have like half a year until the event

Anyway, if you guys like one of the ones I did up I can handle the orders and stuff- just need to know. I don't want to step on any toes or discourage others from submitting their ideas. The more the merrier. Keep em coming guys.


On a side note, do we have any thoughts for the front of the shirts? What about like "We are the 99%.... ...Accuracy"?

[Deviant Ollam]

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Just posting a quick reminder message to state that, much like last year, i will have no direct hand in the shirts at all. Other than weighing in like everyone else on the design ideas, i have no role there.

And i'm really relieved and so amazingly happy that others have stepped up to make them happen. It's great to not have it on my plate and not not have one more large box to bring or one more sheet of names to keep separated (since i have enough right now with the Shoot Sign-Up list, etc)

So, yeah, i anticipate the usual slew of questions via email and forum PMs, asking how much they cost, what sizes are available, etc... but i'll try to head them off at the pass right here by saying "I'm not the guy, talk to the other guy"

(and, if the Other Guy wants to post an "official contact and ordering" thread that'd probably be great. CotMan could even keep it locked for us, i suspect, as long as it has a note saying "the official shirt should be produced at such-and-such a time this year, and anyone wanting one will have to alert me [by these specified means] before such-and-such date")