Horrid JCPenny toys

[octalpus]

Forward Command Post

From one of my mailing lists....

JC Penney is offering a very disturbing gift for the kids this year: "Forward Command Post," a pre-bombed" home complete with a soldier and an American flag to crown it with... all that's missing are dead babies and their maimed refugee family. JC Penney also offers a "World Peace Keepers Battle Station" to help the innocents better understand how it is that War Is Peace.

Now, I'm not usually one to get up in arms about toys. I played with GI Joes, played elaborate war games in the woods with friends (complete with realistic looking toy guns), went through my D&D phase, and many other objectionable activities. However, this is an entirely new level of disturbing. This reminded me of the toys and imaginary play depicted in 1984. How far is too far? At what point does it stop being play, and start being indoctrination?

With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatsoever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and the banners, the hiking, the drilling with dummy rifles, the yelling of slogans, the worship of Big Brother--it was all sort of a glorious game to them. All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which the Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak--"child hero" was the phrase generally used--had overheard some compromising remark and denounced his parents to the Thought Police.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[octalpus]

BTW, for those that are equally disturbed by this toy, the email I recieved is urging people to call or e-mail JCPenney's, asking them to stop carrying this product.

E-mail them at:www.jcpenneyeservices.com/csrv/emailus.asp

Re: Item# IH655-0158A

[converge]

JCPenny's carries toys?

[blackwave]

hey, these are cool.

Hot damn, where the fuck were these toys when I was growing up?

I think if someone doesn't like the toys, they simply shouldn't buy them... if they aren't bought, they will be stop being made... but they were made to be bought.

I don't think toys should be censored from being sold in stores across America just because a few people think it is sick, immoral, or whatever.



Didn't see an ad for the overseas tattoo parlors, or whorehouses >:( I think we have to special order the cathouses with jelly-like orifices....

Here is another thread that talks about similar things:
Defcon Forums > General Area > Politics and Religion > Things that make me sick...
http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=784

[octalpus]

I am against censorship as much as the next person. But again, this is a new level of disturbing, especially in light of recent events and legislation. They aren't disturbing on their own... what is disturbing is the ideas that they plant into the goverment-schooled child's head. Sure, we are thinking, rational people, and we are not unduly influenced by toys. Your average sheepperson's child, however, will drool over this toy, eyes glazed over, dreaming of the day when he too can be a Peacekeeper too.

My concern is that this toy exists in the first place. True, screaming to get it off the shelves is only a knee-jerk reaction, in an attempt to disguise the real problem. Someone out there is thinking of this. Someone out there thinks this is a Good Thing (tm). Toys have moved from being instruments of entertainment to instruments of indoctrination.

[converge]

Toys and cartoons have almost always been an instrument of indoctrination and propoganda.. some are just more blatant than others.

Of course, back in my day we had He-man and Rambo action figures that were lucky to bear one or two weapons... today's toys have full arsenals from which to choose how they will repeatedly kill the other figurine. Then again, they've still yet to beat the Voltron figurines..

[astcell]

I can remember having little plastic Cowboys and Indians. I doubt you can find a little light brown Indian today anywhere but Ebay, with tomahawk at the ready!

[Gadsden]

Where can I get the mangled plastic babies for the bombed house?!? :p

J/K.. I agree.. I think it is not only a bit disturbing but a really scary sign of the times. It kinda reminds me of the D.A.R.E. (or was it NARC) game for Nintendo where the object of the game was for you (The nice cop) to go around and kill the "evil dopeheads" and other undesirables... I think stuf like that sets a very scary presidence; not to far off from the anti-Jewish toys and cartoons from the Nazi era..
I don't really think it should be pulled from the shelves, but I do like the idea of pointing it out to folks and perhaps cause one or two sheeple to think. Yes, Octal, it does remind me of something out of 1984... of course so does a lot of things that has happened in the last year... :(

[blackwave]

Originally posted by octalpussy
My concern is that this toy exists in the first place. True, screaming to get it off the shelves is only a knee-jerk reaction, in an attempt to disguise the real problem. Someone out there is thinking of this. Someone out there thinks this is a Good Thing (tm). Toys have moved from being instruments of entertainment to instruments of indoctrination.

I frankly do not see any harm with these toys being available to the general public (aka sheeple). Life is war, we are in a constant battle to survive.

If parents find these toys suitable for their spawn so be it. Everyone is not the same, nor meant to be the same physically, psychologically... everyone has their own path, and everyone dies and rots.

We could be off a lot different. We could be in a state of constant war where survival requires that the children are trained to use small to medium firearms at an early age, taught to sweep for anti-personnel mines, taught to use gas masks, taught to listen for sirens of alert... We as the US aren't, but we are said to be the most free.

[astcell]

Most free...kind of a weird phrase, like least pregnant?

[Chris]

I think those toys are wicked cool. I don't see what the big deal is. You still would have to buy your kids the toys. It's not like they are issuing them to kids in school and REQUIRING them to play with 'em for an hour a day. I think it comes down to if you don't like it don't buy it....

Now to stay in my disagreeable vein...I am off to Blackwave's Post

[KeLviN]

i just don't see why they would use a bombes house....
it has no cool weapon storage lockers, super computers, prison rooms, or missle platforms.

i think it was just a stupid idea....

[jetforce4004]

it should atleast have a missile launcher or somthing. dead babys might be a bit much. A friend of mine likes the dead baby jokes just goto google and search for dead baby jokes (i think they are kinda sick).

[ck3k]

The toys avalible these days are getting realer and more detailed by the moment, I saw a toy today at the Wal-Mart that made the blood and guns look almost real, but kids grow up with cowboys and indians, so killing someone is introduced at an early age. As for my future toy ideas......DEFCON:the action figures including Blackwave w/ detachable wardriving ipaq and the Alexis Park playset w/ real wifi action.

[astcell]

Didn't they just remaster the movie E.T. where the feds run around with radios in their hands instead of guns? I think we need more guns instead of plowshares.