newb bashing here...

[Grifter]

yes. I mean, no.

[octalpus]

Originally posted by Grifter
I have been working on putting together a FAQ for the last few weeks. I have some other projects that are taking up my time at the moment. ie..Defcon Movie Channel, Scavenger Hunt, and redoing the NOC at my house.

Sounds like you have quite a bit of spare time. Could you redo my site for me, please? I have several things I've been wanting to add, and as you can see, I haven't a lick of artistic talent.

[Grifter]

Originally posted by russ
You know, we could fix this problem quite easily by sending each user a "FAQ" on our forums when they sign up.

I have been working on putting together a FAQ for the last few weeks. I have some other projects that are taking up my time at the moment. ie..Defcon Movie Channel, Scavenger Hunt, and redoing the NOC at my house.

[octalpus]

Originally posted by c0nv3r9
alas... my letter/number substitution was a result of getting pissed off trying to use "converge" as a username. unfortunately I've stuck with this nick since inception.. then again, I am also a tool, so I guess your statement proves itself correct :)

c0nv3r9.... you have proven yourself an exception... even if we do all pronounce your nick "converse". ;-)

[converge]

alas... my letter/number substitution was a result of getting pissed off trying to use "converge" as a username. unfortunately I've stuck with this nick since inception.. then again, I am also a tool, so I guess your statement proves itself correct :)

[skroo]

One thing you forgot, russ...

Use of AOL chatroom contractions, letter/number substitution, and upper ascii not only makes one look like a tool, but will probably incur the wrath of people who can type such difficult words as 'anyway', 'your', and 'one'.

[russ]

You know, we could fix this problem quite easily by sending each user a "FAQ" on our forums when they sign up. Make it part of an email verification system or whatever. This is just an example. Please feel free to edit/modify, etc... I just think each noobie needs something like this FIRST.

READ THIS FAQ BEFORE POSTING ON THE FORUMS!!!!

1) Lurk - Yes, we did say that. Lurk. Spend time reading posts and learning the personalities on the forum. You'll also learn things you might have been ready to ask.

2) Don't repeat questions - If you can possibly handle it, don't ask a question that has already been asked previously on the forums. The answers are already posted for everyone to read.

3) Use the search button - Find answers to questions already asked by using the search button. It's really not that difficult.

4) Don't be an ass - You're not l33t... none of us are. We might be good at what we do, but this isn't your hometown social circle where misspelled words and arrogance earn you brownie points.

5) Don't be stupid - Think about what you want to post. We don't need any more flame wars than we already have.

6) Be yourself - Don't try to be something you're not. You'll find yourself a target a lot less if you just acknowledge that you don't know the answer to everything (42).

7) Respect - "Huh? I thought these were freakin hackers?! No hacker has respect." You ought to turn around and leave now. There are folks on this board that have been around way longer than you, guarantee it. Yeah, okay... so some of the personalities may not fit yours, but they've put in their time. So relax.

8) Don't ask to learn to haxor - This isn't a school for the lame at heart. We don't teach things unless we know who you are. If your first post says "Yo! My name is Raz0r and I need some l33t infoz on hacking"... Go away. Go visit JP over at antionline or something.

9) Learn about DefCon - Afterall, that's what this entire forum is based on. The community of hackers known as DefCon. "Community?" Yes, community. Defcon is no single person or group. It's a collection of diverse and talented hackers, mixed with new folks with a genuine desire to learn something.

10) Have fun - Okay, now that you've heard all the lame rules, pay close attention to this one. There are some GREAT people on this forum. Get to know them. Embed yourself in the culture. Be one with the hax0rs.

[astcell]

Originally posted by Chris
The idea that we are "mean" to newbies is ignorant. We are mean to idiots. New and old alike.

Ah, for the good ol' days, before AOL made it possible for any idiot to be on the Internet....

[Chris]

The idea that we are "mean" to newbies is ignorant. We are mean to idiots. New and old alike.

[blackwave]

Originally posted by highwizard
Perhaps a special thread should be dedicated to them. That way, they can use it and not get in anyones way. A Non-flamable thread of sorts.

we can call it the little short yellow thread aka (LSYT)

Perhaps a special thread should be dedicated to them. That way, they can use it and not get in anyones way. A Non-flamable thread of sorts.

[TwinVega]

n00b is a term used for the new users that act stupid and don't use common sense, of course me flaming every new person on the board without giving them a chance is a stupid idea, but I only flame the damn ones that have it coming.....I could find old BW posts, but it wouldn't qualify as n00b material, as most of our posts wouldn't...that's why we're still around.

[octalpus]

Originally posted by jetforce4004
you guys are kinda tough on newbies. But I think its their falt somtimes or others (perfectsword,jetforce there bastards) I remember when twinvega was a noob on the board.

Ummm... no... you don't.

[converge]

Originally posted by jetforce4004
I remember when twinvega was a noob on the board.

ahhh yesssss... the good ol' days of... wait, huh?

[jetforce4004]

you guys are kinda tough on newbies. But I think its their falt somtimes or others (perfectsword,jetforce there bastards) I remember when twinvega was a noob on the board.