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**blackwave** · February 9, 2003, 17:18

just nine years?

Grace, 22, and Wilson, 28, regularly entered Riverside County Superior Court’s computer system from December 2001 to May 2002, editing files at will.

Investigation into the pair revealed they had also been involved in an extortion scheme impacting perhaps 100 victims, Long said. In his role as consultant, Grace had done repairs to a computer server for a Web site devoted to gay issues. But the two also copied secret data from the Web site, including customer names. They then extorted the customers, threatening to reveal their identities to the public. Extortion amounts ranged between $700 and $2,000.

Originally posted by astcell
Actually these guys did more than computer mouse clicks, but it shows how they are serious about computer crimes!

oh it is going to get a lot more serious than this in the future...

**Gadsden** · February 10, 2003, 10:21

Re: just nine years?

Originally posted by blackwave
oh it is going to get a lot more serious than this in the future...

What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..

**blackwave** · February 10, 2003, 10:32

Re: Re: just nine years?

Originally posted by che
What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..

mmm... nuns...

**astcell** · February 10, 2003, 20:55

You are truly better off using an axe for your hacking!

**simple3** · February 10, 2003, 22:33

don't forget about eating brownies

--simple3

**TwinVega** · February 11, 2003, 08:30

Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?

Kevin didn't exactly change court records, his was more of a I can access your network, nah nah nah nah nah nah.

**lei** · February 11, 2003, 13:09

Re: Re: just nine years?

Originally posted by che
What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..

wtf...

**KeLviN** · February 11, 2003, 14:40

don't give lei any ideas.... it's allways the quiet ones....

**Gadsden** · February 11, 2003, 18:36

Re: Re: Re: just nine years?

Originally posted by lei
wtf...

I was refering to the fact that it is quite easy to be sent away for a longer time for computer related crimes than for violent crimes..

**Donald Wanton** · August 24, 2007, 23:31

Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?

Darklotus

is out and looking for

dischammer (who is also out)

I doubt anyone else would still look at this page so if the hammer sees this,sign up and post ---->

**Pragma** · August 25, 2007, 01:47

Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?

TwinVega, good point.

I think that the Mitnick-case is far more twisted than this one...
Mitnick did many things that (at least some of) the people going to Defcon regards as ethically defendable.
"Illegally entering computer systems" - Fair, that's a crime. But entering just for the purpose of doing it shouldn't be punished anywhere close to entering a system with wicked intentions - like planning to extort people.

Bah, it's been years since my last post here. And my English has suffered under it.

**Thorn** · August 25, 2007, 06:46

Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?

The previous two posts are violation of Secondary Rule #7:

7. Old Threads:
This is covered above and is covered here too: check the date on a thread before replying. Don't bother replying to old (i.e. over a month old) threads unless you have something of value to add.

https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=6777

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