Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?
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https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=6777
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Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?
TwinVega, good point.
I think that the Mitnick-case is far more twisted than this one...
Mitnick did many things that (at least some of) the people going to Defcon regards as ethically defendable.
"Illegally entering computer systems" - Fair, that's a crime. But entering just for the purpose of doing it shouldn't be punished anywhere close to entering a system with wicked intentions - like planning to extort people.
Bah, it's been years since my last post here. And my English has suffered under it.Leave a comment:
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Re: Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?
Darklotus
is out and looking for 
dischammer (who is also out) I doubt anyone else would still look at this page so if the hammer sees this,sign up and post ---->
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Re: Re: Re: just nine years?
I was refering to the fact that it is quite easy to be sent away for a longer time for computer related crimes than for violent crimes..Originally posted by lei
wtf...Leave a comment:
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Re: Re: just nine years?
wtf...Originally posted by che
What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..Leave a comment:
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Kevin didn't exactly change court records, his was more of a I can access your network, nah nah nah nah nah nah.Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?Leave a comment:
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Re: Re: just nine years?
mmm... nuns...Originally posted by che
What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..Leave a comment:
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Re: just nine years?
What is sad is you can rape a nun and burn an orphanage and probably get off lighter then if you were to commit "cyber terrorism" under new laws..Originally posted by blackwave
oh it is going to get a lot more serious than this in the future...Leave a comment:
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just nine years?
Grace, 22, and Wilson, 28, regularly entered Riverside County Superior Court’s computer system from December 2001 to May 2002, editing files at will.Investigation into the pair revealed they had also been involved in an extortion scheme impacting perhaps 100 victims, Long said. In his role as consultant, Grace had done repairs to a computer server for a Web site devoted to gay issues. But the two also copied secret data from the Web site, including customer names. They then extorted the customers, threatening to reveal their identities to the public. Extortion amounts ranged between $700 and $2,000.oh it is going to get a lot more serious than this in the future...Originally posted by astcell
Actually these guys did more than computer mouse clicks, but it shows how they are serious about computer crimes!Leave a comment:
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Kevin is free. What about William and Brandon?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/870163.asp?0dm=N16KT
Pair who hacked court get 9 years
Former computer consultant tried to dismiss pending cases
By Bob Sullivan
MSNBC
Feb. 7 — Two hackers who broke into Riverside County, Calif., court computers and electronically dismissed a variety of pending cases pleaded guilty to the crime Friday. Both William Grace and Brandon Wilson were sentenced to nine years in jail after pleading guilty to 72 counts of illegally entering a computer system and editing data, along with seven counts of conspiracy to commit extortion.
I could cut and paste more but that might be against the DMCA...
Actually these guys did more than computer mouse clicks, but it shows how they are serious about computer crimes!
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