Announcement: "Definitive Guide to Wireless WarX'ing"

[Chris]

FYI and for all newbies henceforth....a back and forth pissing contest with a forum moderator is a good way to get your thread...*closedX.

[MrYowler]

True enough...

But not everyone at an entry level of understanding, will recognize it's meaning. "X" has the redeeming quality of having been ubiquitously used as the nameless 'variable', in mathematics, for centuries (right up there with 'n'!), so even the computer-illiterate should be able to comprehend the usage.

Seems like more a question of style, than correctness, to me, so I left it alone. :-/

[blackwave]

Re: Limitations and language...

Originally posted by MrYowler
the "X" is intended to serve as a wildcard, covering such terms as 'yachting', 'driving', and 'flying'. Perhaps there is a better way to represent that, but none has occurred to me, and I did not name the document, in any event.

* is always a nice wildcard.
Try War*ing

[MrYowler]

Limitations and language...

Thank-you for the suggestions, and thanks in advance to anyone with more of them. As far as I'm concerned, the document is open to editorial review; I just hate to make sweeping structural changes to it, without the permission of the copyright holder. Improvments are one thing - but as long as he retains rights on the document, it's design should really be his area of responsibility and authority. I would be happy to add a link or text, to my version, to cover 802.11g - frankly I'd also like to see coverage of some of the less ubiquitous WISP hardware, as well. Much of it is horribly lacking in security features; the WaveRider, Adaptive Broadband, and WiLAN hardware that we deploy, where I work, does not even measure up to the standard of WEP encryption - and authentication is all but non-existant. Even network controls to prevent simple DoS and intrusion tactics such as taking someone else's IP address, seem to be missing from most of this stuff... I'll admit, it has been nearly six months since I put this together, so some of it will be outdated - but some information is certainly better than no information - and I happen to think that it's an excellent jumpstart for the wireless newbie. I did not create the title, but if you find that it is lacking in some area, I will happily accept submissions for additions and improvements. And if anyone has some sort of personal contact with Slayer, himself, I'd very much like to see the copyright rescinded - that would make it much easier to support and improve the document, over time.

I'm glad to see that it at least inspired some interest - I believe that was the point behind it's creation, to begin with... :)

As stated in another thread on this forum, language is a contract to communicate, and dictionaries are not the carved-in-stone rulebooks that they are used for, in Scrabble.

You seem to have accurately understood the meaning behind the term "WarX'ing"; the "X" is intended to serve as a wildcard, covering such terms as 'yachting', 'driving', and 'flying'. Perhaps there is a better way to represent that, but none has occurred to me, and I did not name the document, in any event.

Hopefully, this clears up any misunderstandings, and will prevent this thread from degenerating into a discussion of English language usage. I hope that you are more forgiving with non-native English speakers; they have the damnedest time understanding English idioms and colloquialisms, as it is, without having people forcing them back into literal interpretations... :/

[blackwave]

WarX'ing ... when I see it I think warCrossing... xing is defined in the dictionary as

Main Entry: 2x
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): x-ed also x'd or xed /'ekst/; x-ing or x'ing /'ek-si[ng]/
Date: circa 1849
1 : to mark with an x
2 : to cancel or obliterate with a series of x's -- usually used with out
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=x'ing

the guide seems to be missing a lot of information, as well as not have more information ... it should be called the "limited" guide of wireless-related urls... and as c0n brought to your attention about the copyright... too bad it isn't open to the community, otherwise you may get suggestions on what to fix and how to fix it....

here is a freebie your url for macstumbler: http://homepage.mac.com/macstumbler/ is a dead link...
the correct site is http://www.macstumbler.com/

... one of the purposes of documenations or guides is that it be accurate and updated constantly, especially if related to URLs the Internet is a vast cyberpspace which is constantly changing. Do not give out bad information.

[converge]

Things that need to be addressed for a "definitive" guide:

) No mention of 802.11g technology
) Missing tools, pocketwarrior, warglue
) Many missing websites

There be a lot of good information on there. Nice...

The copyright thing is quite lame.. of course, props to him are always necessary if you are using comments made by him regarding the technology, but this should not stop you from adding and improving it.

[MrYowler]

I converted this to HTML, made a few corrections and updates, and some editorial comments, and then mirrored some of the shorter-lived linked content.

See http://hacking.catalyst.net/wireless/TDGTW-WarXing/

I spotted this, featured on www.wardriving.com, some time ago. I updated it, at the time, and still found it to be difficult to use, so I made the rest of the changes. I'd like to do more to it, but Slayer slapped a copyright on it, and I don't feel right about changing too much of his formatting, without getting his permission, first - and he has been unresponsive to me, so far.

This, at least, is a hell of a lot easier to use than his flat text version. Hope someone else finds it interesting reading...