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  • Deviant Ollam
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    I've never attended the SuperBowl party that sometimes happens in Vegas with some DEF CON regulars, but if folk wanted to do something like that this coming February, maybe making enough time beforehand to take a weekend class, that could be a fun plan. =)

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  • astcell
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    When I renewed Nevada it took 8 hours, and if you wanted Utah you stayed another 2 hours. All day Sunday. Monday morning i was in and out of the police station in under 15 minutes,

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  • Deviant Ollam
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    i would totally support that if it were possible.

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  • seeess
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    I've always thought about getting my NV permit while I'm out there, but most places break it up into 2 days since the law requires it to be 8 hours long.

    How crazy would it be to hold a private NV CCW course out in the desert (assuming we have enough interest). Like everything at defcon, the problem is timing. I think the only time that would work would be before the shoot wed (unless it is broken up to have some of the class time after the shoot thrs).

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  • Deviant Ollam
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    Originally posted by Weinie View Post
    Deviant, I take it you have a CCW with reciprocity for Nevada? Just curious.
    i do not, actually. they dropped Florida when that CCW changed from 5-year to 7-year validity. And the dropped Utah when Utah eliminated their live fire requirement a while back. I never had a Utah permit, however. My PA license wouldn't work in Nevada, either. Fortunately, I'll be picking up a Montana CCW in due time... and that does have reciprocity with Nevada, according to usacarry.com

    I really wish the Thune Amendment had carried. no fan of centralizing gov't authority am I, but that would have made shit so much bloody easier.

    I presume you asked when I referenced my "carry pistol"... that's just what I call the little Walther PPS, even if i'm not actively carrying it. It's my go-to for that purpose, even though I still love my H&K USP compacts even more.

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  • t0x0
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    CCW shows up a few months later, you mean. :) Las Vegas takes every minute they can...mine showed up 100+ days later (don't remember the exact date). Other areas will get it out to you in a matter of days or weeks.

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  • astcell
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    A Non-resident can get a Nevada CCW. It only takes a day. Go to class Sunday for 8 hours. Go to the police station Monday for 20 minutes. CCW shows up in the mail a few weeks later.

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  • Weinie
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    Deviant, I take it you have a CCW with reciprocity for Nevada? Just curious.

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  • Deviant Ollam
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    This was the first time I stored guns with hotel security and I found it to be a pretty quick and easy process. I was irked that I didn't get to clean the guns before bringing them back from the Shoot (next year we will have a full cleaning table out there, btw!) but overall felt perfectly secure. The Bally's security office is right at the bottom of the Indigo Tower elevators and super easy to get to.

    Some tips...

    1. if you can, have a list of all guns and their serial numbers, since this is what goes on the form you're filling out

    2. do not expect this to be the Security Office's top priority when you call them. if you're standing outside their door attempting to check-in or reclaim your guns, and there is an incident elsewhere in the casino, you will have to wait 5 or 10 minutes possibly (plan for this when checking out)

    3. no one says you have to check ALL your guns. i still kept my carry pistol in my hotel room, along with some ammo, etc.

    all the gun I stored with Bally's Security this year (they told me they'd never seen one person fill out a single form with so many firearms, hah) were in a single huge Pelican case which I had locked and only I possessed the key. that was good enough for me.

    upon reclaiming them, I checked the condition of all guns before signing the form on the line of "i have verified that my goods were returned to me in the same condition" etc etc.

    perfectly easy process, to be honest.



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  • L0g1c
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    If you have any family/friends that live in Vegas I'd recommend them as a storage option as well.

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  • Nothingness
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    I stored mine with the security desk at the Rio. They were VERY helpful. I had a huge dual rifle trunk/case thing on wheels and they had no problem storing it. There are cameras everywhere in casinos, not just on the floor. Caesars properties are more friendly for firearms than some of the other hotel companies.

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  • seeess
    started a topic Where To Store Guns

    Where To Store Guns

    This comes up every year so I thought I'd give my opinion on this topic. I looked at linking old threads, but there's currently a problem with the archived forums (I reported the issue, the admins are looking into it)

    There are two major opinions from what I've seen:
    1. Be inconspicuous about it, don't have gun stickers, tell anyone who asks it is music/band/dj equipment and you don't have the key since you're just moving it for them. Lock them in your room and don't tell anyone.
    2. Check it in with security.

    I think most people prefer #1, but I lean toward #2. I've checked mine in at the rio in previous years, and I called Paris's security and they said I could check them in there. I asked about Ballys, he said they also probably accept them or you could go to Paris's security desk.

    The main reason I suggest #2 is the inkeeper laws in vegas:

    NRS 651.010  Civil liability of innkeepers limited.

    1.  An owner or keeper of any hotel, inn, motel, motor court, boardinghouse or lodging house in this State is not civilly liable for the theft, loss, damage or destruction of any property brought by a patron upon the premises or left in a motor vehicle upon the premises because of theft, burglary, fire or otherwise, in the absence of gross neglect by the owner or keeper.
    2.  An owner or keeper of any hotel, inn, motel, motor court, boardinghouse or lodging house in this State is not civilly liable for the theft, loss, damage or destruction of any property of a guest left in a guest room if:
    (a) The owner or keeper provides a fireproof safe or vault in which guests may deposit property for safekeeping;
    (b) Notice of this service is personally given to a guest or posted in the office and the guest’s room; and
    (c) The property is not offered for deposit in the safe or vault by a guest,unless the owner or keeper is grossly negligent.
    Since they almost certainly provide an in-room safe, and my guns won't fit in the safe, I would be liable if someone steals or damages them if they are kept in my room. However reading further it looks like I should demand that the value of the items be written on the ticket. Regardless I will have more of a case if they lose them after being checked in, than if they are stolen from my room.

    4. The liability of the owner or keeper does not exceed the sum of $750 for any property, including, but not limited to, property which is not deposited in a safe or vault because it cannot easily fit within the safe or vault, of an individual patron or guest, unless the owner or keeper receives the property for deposit for safekeeping and consents to assume a liability greater than $750 for its theft, loss, damage or destruction in a written agreement in which the patron or guest specifies the value of the property.
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