When do badges go on sale for 24?

[wyyuheyte]

To register for a workshop, you will need to go to the Bally's side in front of the cafe arcade between Thursday 07:00 to 15:00. We will have goons to pre-register you for the workshop(s) of your choosing.

Can you please clarify if we DO or DO NOT need to have our badge to register for the workshops please? That would greatly help many of us plan this out.

Thanks in advance!!

[TheCotMan]

I was hoping to queue early for workshop registration to ensure I got a spot, while a friend got our badges in the badge line at the same time. This isn't possible if badges are needed to reserve workshop spaces.

If it was like last year, most of of the rooms on the Bally's side will be closed on Thursday, and if that is true, and most doors are closed and locked, then they may not have badge controls to get to Cafe Arcade for workshop reg and only workshop reg. Thing may be different this year, though, so this is just a best guess until you get an authoritative answer.

[darkengine]

what would be the point of being registered if you can't gain access to the workshop without a badge?

I was hoping to queue early for workshop registration to ensure I got a spot, while a friend got our badges in the badge line at the same time. This isn't possible if badges are needed to reserve workshop spaces.

[TheCotMan]

Will we need the dc24 badge for workshop registration? For whatever reason the blackhat-paid badges are not handed out until Thursday afternoon.

Until Nikita replies, assuming she is checking the forums while as con, since few people do, here are some educated guesses:

Last year, on *Thursday* much of the area in Bally's where the "Cafe Arcade" is located (see the map, Bally's side, a partition of the "Grand Ballroom" room called "Gold" https://defcon.org/images/defcon-24/dc-24-fp-final.png ) did not require DEF CON badges to access. The Contests/Events space, and vendor space will probably be closed on Thursday.

By Friday, all of that space on the Bally's side (probably in the hallway near the "1057" room) will probably be DEF CON badge controlled.

From this, I would guess for Thursday, Workshop *registration* is probably outside a badge-controlled space, but assuming you are able to get registered without a badge, what would be the point of being registered if you can't gain access to the workshop without a badge?

Unless things change, even if you are able to register for a workshop without a badge, you will need a DEF CON badge to get to the workshop space.

Because of this, it probably does not matter if a DEF CON badge is needed or not to register, if you need one to attend a workshop; would you pay to register for a workshop you can't gain access to and then demand a refund?

HTH,
-Cot

[Titannet]

We've been a bit busy and plan to update the workshop page ASAP.

To register for a workshop, you will need to go to the Bally's side in front of the cafe arcade between Thursday 07:00 to 15:00. We will have goons to pre-register you for the workshop(s) of your choosing.

Will we need the dc24 badge for workshop registration? For whatever reason the blackhat-paid badges are not handed out until Thursday afternoon.

[TheCotMan]

Some information I received from Nikita about WORKSHOP registration details:

To register for a workshop, you will need to go to the Bally's side in front of the cafe arcade between Thursday 07:00 to 15:00. We will have goons to pre-register you for the workshop(s) of your choosing.

If the workshop that you want has filled up before you got there, don't worry! Just like last year, if you come to the workshop area early the day of, you can wait in the standby line. If a seat opens up, it will be made available to the first person waiting to claim it.

Please Note: You will be issued a workshop "pass". It will be required for class admission. If you lose it we can't help you, your seat will be made available for those in standby.

Time for both registration systems being opened is subject to change with little or any notice.

[qumqats]

Hi Goons can someone clarify what time does registration open up for conference pass pay the $249 ? . . . snip . . .
Thanks so much!
HD

dc24 badge registration will open at 6am on Thur

[darkengine]

I am trying to process which line to get in seems the workshops are my first goal, second is paying the 249$

This was going to be my plan of action since I recall workshops filling up quite fast last year. I can have a friend grab a badge for me at the same time he gets his while I queue up early for workshop registration. Of course, this only works if badges aren't required to register for a workshop.

Will badges be required to reserve a workshop spot?

[hdanielson]

Hi Goons can someone clarify what time does registration open up for conference pass pay the $249 ? I am confused seems badges are for workshops open at 7 am but no where could I find when registration opens to pay the $249. I am trying to process which line to get in seems the workshops are my first goal, second is paying the 249$ after I get my badges.
Thanks so much!
HD

[geeksedition]

Okay sainate , We're getting closer to DefCon. Remember my (maybe mistake) comment about if people can find me I am buying a beer... This goes to anybody reading this. If you think you have found me, you will need to introduce yourself to me, and remind me about this message. Depending on the hour you find me, I may be in a somewhat pickled liver state :)

However, My disclaimer. Not if I am headed to a talk as I AM there to feed my brain but happy to meet up after the talk. I will also have to stop after 20 people as I don't excrete money, and I am Canadian, so my money is also in the crapper compared to US. :P The first person who finds me and has intelligently talked to people in these forums, I will buy 2 beers :) Here is your hint...

Follow the Canadian !#

:) Good Luck,

PS: I do this in the interest of meeting people and intelligent conversation and exchange of knowledge. So if you want to stay with me and chat for that beer, that'd be cool

[geeksedition]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

Cheers!!!

[Nikita]

We've been a bit busy and plan to update the workshop page ASAP.

Thursday Workshops will start at 10am.
First block will start 10 and go to 2.
Break 2 to 3pm. (There's only the hour break on thursday only for the instructors who are teaching back to back classes. )
Second block 3 to 7.

Friday & Saturday will stay the same 10 to 2 and 2 to 6.


We're going to announce this on the website in a few days, but since you're on the forums you can hear it here first:

Workshop Registration!
Workshops are free, first come, first served, and seats will fill up fast!

To register for a workshop, you will need to go to the Bally's side in front of the cafe arcade between Thursday 07:00 to 15:00. We will have goons to pre-register you for the workshop(s) of your choosing.

If the workshop that you want has filled up before you got there, don't worry! Just like last year, if you come to the workshop area early the day of, you can wait in the standby line. If a seat opens up, it will be made available to the first person waiting to claim it.

Please Note: You will be issued a workshop "pass". It will be required for class admission. If you lose it we can't help you, your seat will be made available for those in standby.

[The Dark Tangent]

Currently planning a 6am start Thrusday, so hopefully if all goes well you'll have plenty of time to make a 10am workshop.

[b0t0rn0t]

Well hopefully they find a way for both classes to be 4 hours. Maybe 10am-2pm, and 2:30pm-6:30pm (allows for 30 minutes between classes)

Really I wish they would have just left a 9am start time. Get in line early enough to get a badge by 9am or else have a goon escort people with workshop tickets into the workshop (or if possible, to the front of the line to get a badge)

[TheCotMan]

With the Thursday morning Raspberry Pi/Kali workshop started at 10am instead of 9am, will it still be 4-hours long? (hope so, this is a lot to do in even 4 hours and I really hope to be able to finish the project during the workshop!)

As far as I know and have read, there were 9am classes 4 hours long, but the start was moved to 10am. There were 2pm afternoon classes. If the 2pm classes start time is still 2pm, then there will almost certainly be a slight reduction in the full 4 hours for morning classes, since by the squeeze theory, 10am start for morning classes and 2pm start for afternoon classes, where the afternoon classes use the same space, 10am to 2pm would be exactly 4 hour, but time to clear each room and prep for the next class can't be zero, so time must be consumed. If we assume the 2:00pm start start for afternoon classes remains unchanged, time must be subtracted from the end of the 10am-2pm 4 hour period to allow for change-over. How much time? I do not know. I would bet 5 to 15 minutes.

If the start time for morning remains 10am, and the start time for afternoon remains 2pm, assume that the 10am classes will not get a full 4 hours.

Any yes anything you can send out to people who signed up for the workshop in advance (such as what to bring or install), it everyone shows up with everything already installed on their laptop that will probably save a decent amount of time at the start.

Thanks :)

This kind of request would be something for instructors like Dallas to answer, or another instructor if you plan on taking a different class. I would suggest contacting the person running the class you plan to attend, and contact them directly, not in a thread-post in the forums. A PM, or email or DM/tweet would probably work better, as these prompt notification of issue, instead of hoping the person polls the thread-post often enough to see your request. Encourage them to post such information publicly so all may benefit from the answers.

Thanks!
-Cot