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  • indicanblend
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    Tell me something. Are you one of those people who comes to Las Vegas for Defcon and then sits on their computer all day long in your room/breakout room?
    Actually, quite the opposite highwiz, Why sit in your hotel room with your notebook when you could be learning something new, talking to people etc etc etc. Listen, We have almost full cars and I don't see a problem with people in the back using the computers if they want to. Do you? Now the fact that I don't fucking speed and have never got a speeding ticket pretty much shows you that I don't go 120mph. And How do you figure that a person has to be right on your ass just to get a signal schroo, that is NOT true, or you were using some weak equipment. Here is the bottom line, the wireless network on I-5 is NOT because we cannot be without the internet for a few days, It is to teach others in the caravan (that have yet to see it work in person) how it is done, and used. The spread of information, isn't that what we are all here for?

    But listen, I have taken all of your concerns and info into mind and you have made some excellent points. Thanks for the feedback.

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  • highwizard
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    Originally posted by indicanblend
    Thanks for the lowdown, but with the RIGHT equipment and testing, this can be done safely, not only to us but others on the road as well.

    _indicanblend_

    Intelligent people listen to advice of others and learn from their mistakes. Maybe you should just avoid Cali. and drive through Utah.... Utah has a way of chewing up Defconites and spitting them back out.

    But in all seriousness, what is the real need for it? You talk about Oregon being a long drive? I drove across the country from the east coast, I didn't feel the need to have internet access on the road. Why, you ask? Because I am not that much of a Loser (references on file). Moreover, I value MY safety, the Saftey of those in my vehicle (see: stitch) and the safety of those in the vehicles around me. Skroo told you exactly the problems that may arise. Are you willing to either A) Get Cited B) Get in an Accident or C) get killed over not having the internet for a few hours.

    Tell me something. Are you one of those people who comes to Las Vegas for Defcon and then sits on their computer all day long in your room/breakout room? If so, that would make a lot of sense. In which case I will retract all earlier statements and tell you to cover your entire dashboard with display devices and drive at 120MPH while weaving in and out of cars and make sure to drive thru utah, specifcially 15.... This would help in my project "Filtration of the Gene Pool"

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by astcell
    But GPS displays are fine for the driver?
    Actually, those are a grey area. The way the law is written right now, it's intended for things like DVD displays - but people have been nailed for using laptops to do GPS-based work. Technically, those displays are illegal but there seems to be no real enforcement on the issue.

    Ultimately it comes down to whether or not the cop wants to write the ticket, and the CHP are notorious for being assclowns. I have never been able to get one of them to back down.

    Also (and this is an issue unrelated to safety that I'm largely failing to understand): why is it so damn essential to not put the bloody computer down? Hurr, hurr, lookie me, I'm shelled into that Honda over there. Have we honestly hit a point where people are so maladjusted that they can't leave the thing alone for a few hours?

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  • astcell
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    But GPS displays are fine for the driver?

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by indicanblend
    Thanks for the lowdown, but with the RIGHT equipment and testing, this can be done safely, not only to us but others on the road as well.
    I'd really like to know how you plan on doing that. This is a truly bad idea, not to mention likely to get you hit with a major fine if you're caught doing it in California. You seem to be missing the point that the distraction factor inherent in all of this is the real issue.

    Also, if you are planning on doing it, please do not join the caravan. Thanks.

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  • indicanblend
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    Thanks for the lowdown, but with the RIGHT equipment and testing, this can be done safely, not only to us but others on the road as well.

    _indicanblend_

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by indicanblend
    What up people? I live in Medford, Oregon (Southern Oregon) and want to get a traveling 802.11 wireless network running for the trip down to DEFCON 12 next year.
    I'm going to give you the same piece of advice we give everyone who suggests this year after year:

    Don't.

    There're two reasons for this: firstly (in California at least), it's illegal to have a video display in use in an area normally visible from the front seats while the vehicle is in motion. This means that technically front-seat passengers can't use laptops, and it's the driver's responsibility to enforce that.

    Secondly, people are actually fucking stupid enough to tailgate the car with the access point (or the cars behind it) in an attempt to get signal. At 70mph, this is just plain stupid. Having actually seen it happen several years back on the SoCal Caravan, I speak from experience when I call it a Bad Idea.

    Our roads are clogged with enough dipshits distracted by their cellphones while driving; we don't need to add idiots trying to watch a laptop at speed in order to share MP3s with the person behind them.

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  • indicanblend
    started a topic West Coast 802.11 Traveling Network for Defcon 12

    West Coast 802.11 Traveling Network for Defcon 12

    What up people? I live in Medford, Oregon (Southern Oregon) and want to get a traveling 802.11 wireless network running for the trip down to DEFCON 12 next year. Las Vegas is a little bit of a drive so If your interested and live in Oregon or Washington, email me back and we can spec this. *And yes I know this has been done before but fuck it, lets do it again ;)

    sohrgroup@hotmail.com
    Last edited by indicanblend; December 21, 2003, 15:24.
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