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  • converge
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    I wasted a whole round on the crapper trying to clean this forsaken thread up

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  • spahkle
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    Originally posted by highwizard
    Only if it's the song "I'm a redneck woman, I'm a high class broad"
    Great. Somebody will take this as a queue to come with the best song to describe this thread. After which, some will want to make an fscking t-shirt out of it. :p

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by lil_freak
    Why? Songs make everyone happy and I'm sure we could get Pezz to come up with something catchy.
    Only if it's the song "I'm a redneck woman, I'm a high class broad"

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  • lil_freak
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    Originally posted by highwizard
    Please do not break into song.
    Why? Songs make everyone happy and I'm sure we could get Pezz to come up with something catchy.

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    Originally posted by pezz
    I'm telling you. It is the spirit of all those yet to be who keep it alive. Though at sometime this thread may die...it will live on in the hearts and minds of all those who truly believe. One day when I am gone, my thread will go on... :D
    Please do not break into song.

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  • pezz
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    I'm telling you. It is the spirit of all those yet to be who keep it alive. Though at sometime this thread may die...it will live on in the hearts and minds of all those who truly believe. One day when I am gone, my thread will go on... :D

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    Originally posted by spahkle
    Quick, someone grab a syringe of air and inject it into the heart of this thread. Zero has the defibrillator and is attempting resuscitation

    I thought this thread was on his deathroll a number of times, but it never seems to want to let up.

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  • spahkle
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    Originally posted by zero
    Wow, see what happens when you don't check the forums for a few months? Missed this whole thread. I'd like to address a couple of the discussio points raised below:
    Quick, someone grab a syringe of air and inject it into the heart of this thread. Zero has the defibrillator and is attempting resuscitation

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  • zero
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    op-ed piece.

    Wow, see what happens when you don't check the forums for a few months? Missed this whole thread. I'd like to address a couple of the discussio points raised below:

    Originally posted by pezz
    1. How do females differ from males in cognative learning styles, and how can females harness those differences to thier educational advantage?

    2. What types of network/mentoring programs exist to help support females in higher level education successes?

    3. Why do females feel infosec is boring?

    4. Am I subject to stereotypes because I am a female in Infosec? How do these stereotypes effect me? ex. lesbian, unfeminine, anti-social,etc..

    5. Are females turned off to Infosec because they view the posterchild of security as a grundgy, long haired, adolescent teen, male?
    First - point of departure. The ideas expressed come mainly from my work experience: I work at an all girl college prep school. 100 % of our graduates go on to 4 year institutions. Those include Harvard, Yale, MIT, UCBerkley, Stanford,.....

    Views noted are my own and not necessarily my institutions. They are also generalizations for the most part.

    1. Women are generally co-operative vs men who are competitive. It's trained into them from day one. A lot of people say it's genetics - BAH! It's training. We give girls baby dolls, dress up clothes, my magic kitchen, and generally cute toys. We give boys legos, building blocks, toy cars, bats, balls, lincoln logs, things they can take apart, things they can get dirty with. From this basic branching of treatment the rest follows. Boys do better at math (in general) in part due to the spacial relationships they have in their head from building things with 3d objects.

    addendum: check out KAREN STABINER "All Girls: Single-Sex Education and Why It Matters", Myra Sadker "FAILING AT FAIRNESS: HOW AMERICA'S SCHOOLS CHEAT GIRLS", JoAnn Deak & Teresa Barker "Girls Will Be Girls : Raising Confident and Courageous Daughters"

    If a girl hits someone, wrestles around with them, chases them they are berated for being over active, unruly, not nice. Boys exhibit the same behavior and you see parents saying "well, boys will be boys, what can you do?". This also plays into why most abusers are men - it's ok for boys to hit to get their way, girls are taught to be passive. Most parents train their boys to be different from their girls. Until the parenting changes, the roles won't change.

    2. WITI is probably one of the best out there, but that doesn't preclude anyone form establishing a old-girls network. I guess one of the problems that exists though is that since the girls who have been taught to be co-operative rarely reach the Boss level, the only ones who are there are the very competitive ones, and they tend to be as bad as their male counterparts.

    3. Hmmm, not boring, geeky. Computers in general are viewed that way. And this goes back to training. Computer workers are viewed as geeky, and while it's often cool in many circles to be a male geek, that has not yet transferred to the female side. Women who are into geeky things are often looked at like someone from another planet by all but the geekiest males, and worse yte completely shunned by the other women for fear of being considered geeky just by being with a geek. We offer computer classes here. The artistic classes have a high turnout, but C++ and AP Computer Science are avoided like a plague. Girls who take the courses are referred to derisively by other students as geeky. For a male taking that course it would be "Gee, you must be really bright" and "Wow, you can do that with computers?". Not so for females.

    4. Yes, you will be subject to stereotypes, just because most people like everything to fit in nice little boxes. To the males (excepting the gay contingent, but including the bi contingent) you are a target or lesbian. Men rarely veiw anything outside of a sexual context. Yes, they will view you as a computer geek, but also as a possible sexual partner. Women, even other geek women, will often view you as a rival. It's not right, but it can only be changed by changing the parenting skills we use - and possibly some castration.

    5. No they avoid infosec because it is the panultimate in geekiness. Being into computers is geeky to start, but Infosec, with packet analysis, crypto, etc, is considered geekiness in the extreme, and going back to earlier, most women view geekiness as social suicide.

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  • spahkle
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    Originally posted by highwizard
    a toga party where phobal will be sacrified to the god Anubis.
    and there will be much rejoicing (...yaaay)

    instead of sticking fork in this thread and calling it done, let's stick a fork in the next ?person? who revives it

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    Originally posted by spahkle
    Not I. It merely represents another thread I can throw uesless banter into to artificially inflate my post count (size matters and all that) ;)

    Inflate your post count with a thread? Surely you jest!

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  • pezz
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    Buck Futter!!!


    Ha Ha Ha

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  • spahkle
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    Not I. It merely represents another thread I can throw uesless banter into to artificially inflate my post count (size matters and all that) ;)

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by spahkle
    could probably add common sense to this list.. but what a great way to post whore AND irritate people simultaneously

    But who is it really irritating?

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  • spahkle
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    Originally posted by bascule
    Clearly spelling and grammar are not among those priceless skills...
    could probably add common sense to this list.. but what a great way to post whore AND irritate people simultaneously

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