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  • highwizard
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    Originally posted by AttIvAn
    Hey...!

    I'm in Nashville (Close to Kentucky)... I can get to Kentucky if need be. Or NC, or GA, or AR. If i can come along with ANYONE I would be so happy. This is my first convention like this really.
    You can get to NC, GA or AR... Can you get to NV? If you can get to NV I think someone may be able to help you out.

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  • AttIvAn
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    Need a Ride

    Hey...!

    I'm in Nashville (Close to Kentucky)... I can get to Kentucky if need be. Or NC, or GA, or AR. If i can come along with ANYONE I would be so happy. This is my first convention like this really.

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  • jester
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    defcon desert driving / midwest caravan

    Last year we drove the desert at night to avoid these concerns. The largest downside was that this meant we got into Vegas at some crazy early AM time. I thought it worked out very well. IIRC it was around 70degF through most of the night. My FAVORITE part of the drive had to be the sea of vegas lights that appear all at once when you reach the top of one of the final hills. Now THAT rocked! :)

    WARNING - If you do this, you MUST be more careful about gas because you have even fewer options for fueling up at 4am.


    ** please msg me if you are doing the caravan thing on I-70 through Kansas or need a ride from Wichita or Kansas City **


    -- jester


    > 1) Deserts get hot. While this may seem blatantly obvious, it means that you

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  • highwizard
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    Originally posted by sparrow6
    Wow, very informative and apoctoliptic at the same time.

    That is all very sound advice. I have to admit though,...it makes me want to do it even more... heh heh

    sparrow6
    Stitch and I drove from the East Coast to Defcon Last Year, and I will echo Skroo's statements. Have a kit a long with you. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Make sure you stop to rest and take a pee break. If you're travel I70 there is a perticular area in Utah where it is just Desert for a number of miles. Make sure to keep your car filled with gas (we never let it drop below half a tank). If your not a good auto mechanic yourself, make sure to go and find a reputable one and tell him what you are doing... Have him give it the once over.

    Make sure you have AAA... Have them give you a trip tik for there and back.

    Unlike many on this board, I didn't had Utah. I hated Arizona... If you drive the route I did, you will understand why.

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  • sparrow6
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    Originally posted by skroo
    OK. At 60mph for 28h, that's a total of 1680 miles, one-way. Over three days (because you'll be lucky to average 60), that's 560 miles per day, which equates to 9.3 hours of driving per day. Very doable. Assuming you average 60mph, that is.
    Wow, very informative and apoctoliptic at the same time.

    That is all very sound advice. I have to admit though,...it makes me want to do it even more... heh heh

    sparrow6

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by azrael
    well we are nuts, bonkers, etc. before we enter the car, so it will be okay. and the route we have is 28 hours of driving at 60 mph, so we should be able to work with that, however as of right now, I am the only driver, so it will probably take 2-3 days, because I will want to sleep and enjoy the scenery. :)
    OK. At 60mph for 28h, that's a total of 1680 miles, one-way. Over three days (because you'll be lucky to average 60), that's 560 miles per day, which equates to 9.3 hours of driving per day. Very doable. Assuming you average 60mph, that is.

    My personal distance record is Seattle to Los Angeles (actually, a point approximately 40 miles south of Los Angeles in Orange County) via I-5 in a single 18-hour shot. This is a distance of approximately 1200 miles, and an average speed of 67mph. Approximately two hours of that time was spent eating, getting gas, etc., so the actual average for time in motion was more like 75mph.

    However, we had one major advantage: no climactic extremes, and surprisingly mild weather for a February in the Cascades. On the other hand, you're going to be crossing a couple of deserts in the heart of the hotter-than-hell season. I'm guessing that being from Kentucky you've never driven in desert climes before; if I'm wrong, please excuse me for bringing up the following - it's meant more for a generic audience than you specifically:

    1) Deserts get hot. While this may seem blatantly obvious, it means that you need a vehicle that's capable of traversing the desert without overheating. That means a freely-circulating cooling system - both the radiator *and* block. Live in an area with hard water? You might want to get your radiator pressure- and flow-tested before leaving and recore it as necessary. The money you'll spend doing this is a lot less than if it blows on you in 120degF heat in the middle of nowhere, particularly if it takes your head gasket and/or head(s) with it.

    2) Feeling smug because your vehicle is air-cooled? Don't. You'll need to change the oil and filter before attempting the crossing, make sure that the oil is receiving sufficent flow and cooling, and that any fans blowing air over the engine are fully-functional. If not, you risk warping the head(s). This would be bad.

    3) Belts. Don't run on old, cracked belts, especially if your vehicle has a single belt driving the ancilliaries (power steering, A/C) in addition to the water pump. Replace them before you go and carry spares.

    4) Air Conditioning. You probably won't be using it much, particularly during the day. It can make your car overheat rather rapidly in the heat you'll be driving through; this is particularly true if it's heavily-loaded (and that includes passengers). For that reason, carry potable water and lots of it.

    5) Be sure to check fluids at each fuel or rest stop or every three hours, whichever comes first. You may find that oil or water consumption changes noticeably once you hit the desert. Also, due to changes in the consistency of both engine oil and coolant in desert climates as well as overall cooling and heat dissipation ability, you may notice a sizeable drop in both cruising speed and performance. If this happens, don't push it: drive at a steady speed, watching oil pressure and coolant temperature. If either climb up past the three-quarters-to-boilover mark, pull over and let the vehicle cool for at least one hour before continuing.

    6) Other things to bring: five gallons of spare gas. Enough oil to refill your car's sump. A gallon of antifreeze. Two gallons of radiator water, though it should also be potable. Two gallons of drinking water stored separately from the radiator water. Hose bandage or spare hoses. A spare tire in good condition and working jack. Blankets, because it gets really cold in the desert at night. Basic tools. A knife. A gun and awareness of the carry laws in the states you'll be crossing.

    Apologies if any of this is old news to you, but better to repeat it than have someone die because their car broke down and nobody reported it.
    Last edited by skroo; May 5, 2004, 22:19.

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  • Lucid
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    "Lucid,
    Just curious, what part of Ky are ya from?"

    far eastern, pike/floyd county right on the VA. WV. line

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  • azrael
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    due to lack of funding for Tony, I don't think we are going to be able to go this year after all, I am going to make it a point to go next year though, even if I have to drive all that way myself.

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  • Clp727
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    Lucid,
    Just curious, what part of Ky are ya from?

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  • Lucid
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    hmm im also in ky..didnt think we had geeky computer people over here in the hills
    ied like to ride down with you guys ied be glad to drive part of the way but if i go i think i will end up flying because im dont have the patience to drive 3 days

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  • sparrow6
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    azrael -
    (funny that was my EQ name when i played, differnt spellilng)

    Im in missouri, i assume youre going to come up 55 and head west on 70?

    If you have room i may need a ride. i can be anywhere in missouri for pickup. i can drive. actually used to drive the i-70 stretch from kansas to stlouis all the time.

    let me know what you think

    (im asking around campus now, seeing if anyones driving that way)

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  • azrael
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    well we are nuts, bonkers, etc. before we enter the car, so it will be okay. and the route we have is 28 hours of driving at 60 mph, so we should be able to work with that, however as of right now, I am the only driver, so it will probably take 2-3 days, because I will want to sleep and enjoy the scenery. :)

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  • sethstorm
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    Well, it all depends on the driver and the route - I'm going to have to go a similar distance (SW Ohio, thankfully I get to fly back). If you dont take the right route, it will take a long time. Depending on who you go with, and if you really want to push it, you could make it in 2 days from Kentucky, 3 days if you want to relax a bit more. Any more east, and it'd be 3 days guaranteed even if you just rotate drivers in/out all the time. If anything, I'd pick flying if you can - just tires one out after you dont care what's outside, but what's at Vegas(which is about the time you would hit Texas/New Mexico, or Utah depending on route). After that, you'll start to agree on why/how they pick people who'll get along together well in space when you've hit the magic 2000/2500/3000 mile mark and people in your vehicle just go plain nuts(insane, bonkers, lack of any mental comprehension, a few marbles missing from your head, you get the idea) before Defcon.
    Last edited by sethstorm; March 18, 2004, 18:41.

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  • Clp727
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    I think its probably gonna take DAYS to make the trip in a car from here. My sister in-law drove from Malibu to Shelbyville...took her a week!

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  • TrenchcoatTony
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    it isnt that hard to figure out you tard...

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