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  • priest
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    In my experience, if you want to make a lot of friends, go hang out by the door to the NOC and keep asking for Priest. Then, when he comes out, follow him around telling him how cool you think he is and how you are going to buy a Hawaiian shirt just like his as soon as you get home.

    It's a win win situation. People will see you hanging out with Priest and think you are the bizzomb and at the same time Priest will love having someone to talk to because if there's on thing everyone that's been to DefCon before knows it's that Priest loves hanging out with first time Con-goers.

    Bad idea. When my arse is kissed I reach first for my wallet to make sure it's still thre then look to see just what the hell the person wants (else why is (s)/he kissing my arse.

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    Originally posted by ploit-mudh0ney
    Do you just leave the machine on the network the whole time you are there?

    I guess the concept of threads that haven't been posted to in weeks eludes you?

    Learn to read the Dates, bucko.

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  • LosT
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    Throw away machine @ Defcon

    I guess honeypots are a moot point at DC? heh.

    Damn, my superhardened WinMe box will be useless I guess.

    LosT

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  • ploit-mudh0ney
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    Originally posted by RiVeRSiDE
    The education your describing is the exact end result we desire. I know it's a bit of "school of hard knocks" but it really works! You're proof. As the novices walk in the door and see the wall, and from that moment forward, they think twice before using unencrypted communications at Defcon, or for that matter anywhere! You're a good poster child :D


    Back to the original "making friends/what to bring" thing... Be yourself, bring your toys, be smart, and have fun.

    Personally, I like bringing a throw away machine I think is hardened to see if it can get broken. I then see what they did and learn.


    -RiVeRSiDE
    Do you just leave the machine on the network the whole time you are there?

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  • RiVeRSiDE
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    Originally posted by Ricky1146
    but you live and learn. I do use encryption now, before i figured firewall and NAT were best. But still i say i learned a lot first time through.
    The education your describing is the exact end result we desire. I know it's a bit of "school of hard knocks" but it really works! You're proof. As the novices walk in the door and see the wall, and from that moment forward, they think twice before using unencrypted communications at Defcon, or for that matter anywhere! You're a good poster child :D


    Back to the original "making friends/what to bring" thing... Be yourself, bring your toys, be smart, and have fun.

    Personally, I like bringing a throw away machine I think is hardened to see if it can get broken. I then see what they did and learn.


    -RiVeRSiDE

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  • phobal
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    Originally posted by Ricky1146
    Heather was an old old ex that i broke up with 2 months previously, to dc 11



    I know i do, i don't know the guys name but i had told him it was a learning experience. I was a lil crap god dangit. At the moment, but you live and learn. I do use encryption now, before i figured firewall anmd NAT were best. But still i say i learned a lot first time through.

    Second time through is the reason why i am just going to not logon through nessenger or email. I believe i learned, therefore I don't do what i did before.



    I realize i could but i am more of an easy going guy. It would have to be something life threatning. To get me that angry for revenge. Still i rather just go about not repeating a simmilar mistake.
    good man. i'll likely abstain from using the wireless to do anything that requires a password.

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  • Ricky1146
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    By the way, who's "heather"? lol!!!!
    Heather was an old old ex that i broke up with 2 months previously, to dc 11

    You owe THEM a favor.
    I know i do, i don't know the guys name but i had told him it was a learning experience. I was a lil crap god dangit. At the moment, but you live and learn. I do use encryption now, before i figured firewall anmd NAT were best. But still i say i learned a lot first time through.

    Second time through is the reason why i am just going to not logon through nessenger or email. I believe i learned, therefore I don't do what i did before.

    Even do what Lord Mitnick once did and get back at the wolves.
    I realize i could but i am more of an easy going guy. It would have to be something life threatning. To get me that angry for revenge. Still i rather just go about not repeating a simmilar mistake.

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by phobal
    ..or, complain.. that works, too.
    If by 'works' you mean 'causes ridicule', then yeah, you're absolutely right.

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  • phobal
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    Originally posted by RiVeRSiDE
    We didn't just say "Oh look a gnat... let's grab his info from his profile and mess with him". The people sniffing were simply watching traffic patterns and you happened to be doing really stupid things on a hostile network (HTTP, POP, etc..). They pointed that out. That’s all. No initial intent to mess with anyone. You brought that upon yourself. :D You know you’re last years “sheep of the year”. Your expressions were priceless. By the way, who's "heather"? lol!!!!

    -RiVeRSiDE
    One must commit due diligence into guarding their own data. You were victimized at a small scale, learn from it, and hopefully your credit card numbers or ssc number won't get stolen, causing even deeper victimization. You owe THEM a favor. Even do what Lord Mitnick once did and get back at the wolves.

    ..or, complain.. that works, too.

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  • RiVeRSiDE
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    Originally posted by Ricky1146
    Ok i am just going to ask the question why it was sniffed, when thier was at least 2-3 profiles with that picture on it. Just wondering why go to the hassle of sniffing through the ip's and the webpages. Rather than just follow the link that had my profile on it?

    Course it's just the difference of how everyone thinks. And does things i am sure.

    We didn't just say "Oh look a gnat... let's grab his info from his profile and mess with him". The people sniffing were simply watching traffic patterns and you happened to be doing really stupid things on a hostile network (HTTP, POP, etc..). They pointed that out. That’s all. No initial intent to mess with anyone. You brought that upon yourself. :D You know you’re last years “sheep of the year”. Your expressions were priceless. By the way, who's "heather"? lol!!!!

    -RiVeRSiDE

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  • Ricky1146
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    Ok i am just going to ask the question why it was sniffed, when thier was at least 2-3 profiles with that picture on it. Just wondering why go to the hassle of sniffing through the ip's and the webpages. Rather than just follow the link that had my profile on it?

    Course it's just the difference of how everyone thinks. And does things i am sure.

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  • RiVeRSiDE
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    Originally posted by skroo
    Heh. It certainly was one of the better ones I can remember.



    Out of curiosity, how does the first part of that title work?
    Not very well when the other goon's don't back me. lol. I don't know who to talk to to get my forum title updated, but I gooned partially in DEF 8/9/10 and constantly last year. I orcristrated the wall of sheep.

    -RiVeRSiDE

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  • skroo
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    Originally posted by RiVeRSiDE
    You know, I think I still have the picture we grabbed from his sniffed website, as well as a picture of him standing under the wall of sheep with his face on the wall above him. That was one of the greatest moments in "Wall of Sheep" history.
    Heh. It certainly was one of the better ones I can remember.

    -RiVeRSiDE (Goon/Wall of Sheep)
    Out of curiosity, how does the first part of that title work?

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  • RiVeRSiDE
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    Originally posted by skroo
    And with that in mind, I wrote Ricky a song. He needed one.
    Great song...

    You know, I think I still have the picture we grabbed from his sniffed website, as well as a picture of him standing under the wall of sheep with his face on the wall above him. That was one of the greatest moments in "Wall of Sheep" history.


    -RiVeRSiDE (Goon/Wall of Sheep)

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  • JoeSchmuck
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    Originally posted by skroo
    And with that in mind, I wrote Ricky a song.
    Applause, applause. Guffaw, guffaw.

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