Getting started in the security field [books, resources, advice]

[expaddy]

Re: Getting started in the security field

I love the No Starch Press TCP/IP Guide

I have found this: The Illustrated Network: How TCP/IP Works in a Modern Network (The Morgan Kaufmann Series in Networking)
for now so that should keep me going for a bit.

But I have bookmarked the 2 that have been suggested for later reference. Thanks for those links by the way. It is so hard to get good recommendations from people who actually use this stuff.

Ah I just found the TCP/IP guide so I'll use that as well as the one I already have.

[noid]

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I love the No Starch Press TCP/IP Guide

[Voltage Spike]

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In one of the articles I read the book titled, "TCP/IP Illustrated", was mentioned as a good book for TCP/IP, does that still hold true or has anyone got any better suggestions?

I have never had the inclination to buy TCP/IP Illustrated, but I have found the TCP/IP Guide to be an excellent reference (although it's length is on par with the complexity of the subject). I must admit that part of its appeal is that it is freely available online.

http://www.tcpipguide.com

[expaddy]

Re: Getting started in the security field

Ok I have seen the date and realise that its been a while since anyone has posted to this thread but I think the information and links found in this thread are still relevant and have provided me with some really good information and have reaffirmed my determination to get into the infosec field.

Although I now realise just how long that path might be and when you are standing at the start of that path it looks an awful long way just to get up to speed.

So its back to college for me this year to do a networking degree and at age 46 thats going to be a tough one. I already have a few IT certs so hopefully with the degree on top of those I should at least get a start in the infosec field.

Does anyone have anymore links to articles with a more up to date look at the infosec field and maybe an idea as to where new trends will be appearing?

In one of the articles I read the book titled, "TCP/IP Illustrated", was mentioned as a good book for TCP/IP, does that still hold true or has anyone got any better suggestions?

[Ænder]

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I'm going to get the shit kicked out of me but u gtg, unless a fairy lifts you out of your dream soon.

Well, it's true, to an extent. Folk with high cisco certs have an average of 115k annual salary. I could use a bit of that. And fear not, it takes a lot for me to start an ass kicking contest.

[Greyhatter]

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Excellent play on the youtube clip. It's favorited.

I will definitely look into PLC, HMI and SCADA. At this point, I know that security does pay well and there's always a place for it, but I am very open to other areas. Perhaps it's my own fault for not researching more. Thanks very much for the suggestions, streaker. :)

I'm going to get the shit kicked out of me but u gtg, unless a fairy lifts you out of your dream soon.

[streaker69]

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Excellent play on the youtube clip. It's favorited.

I will definitely look into PLC, HMI and SCADA. At this point, I know that security does pay well and there's always a place for it, but I am very open to other areas. Perhaps it's my own fault for not researching more. Thanks very much for the suggestions, streaker. :)

Plus there's big roles in security related to SCADA systems, but you really should have a firm understanding of how those systems work before dealing with security on them.

It's my own feeling that the really exciting/sexy security jobs are few and far between, but there's a big need for really good automation engineers.

Besides, where can you actually design your own Star Trek screens to control stuff?

[Ænder]

Re: Getting started in the security field

Excellent play on the youtube clip. It's favorited.

I will definitely look into PLC, HMI and SCADA. At this point, I know that security does pay well and there's always a place for it, but I am very open to other areas. Perhaps it's my own fault for not researching more. Thanks very much for the suggestions, streaker. :)

[Greyhatter]

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Try not to get too hung up in the idea of IT Security. There's lots of areas in IT that are just as much fun, and are severely lacking in people. One field that's going to continue to grow is Industrial Automation and Control. Look into PLC Programming, HMI and SCADA control systems, there's alot of really cool things that you can do in that field.

Perhaps, but aren't you in that?

[streaker69]

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Much interests me. However, I lack the time to learn as much as I wish. As of right now, I'm working on prepping for A+ cert, IT professional cert, network+ cert; learning SQL, vb.net, and linux. I have access to all materials related to an MSCS, it's just on my to do list. I'm also going to be gunning for a CCENT and/or CCNA cert in the future, and as for the BS, I'm currently attending ITT for that. Hopefully, all this adds up to something profitable and fun! Yayyyy.....

Try not to get too hung up in the idea of IT Security. There's lots of areas in IT that are just as much fun, and are severely lacking in people. One field that's going to continue to grow is Industrial Automation and Control. Look into PLC Programming, HMI and SCADA control systems, there's alot of really cool things that you can do in that field.

[Greyhatter]

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Impressive! But I'm not your teacher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm6IA_sZ1lw

[Ænder]

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Much interests me. However, I lack the time to learn as much as I wish. As of right now, I'm working on prepping for A+ cert, IT professional cert, network+ cert; learning SQL, vb.net, and linux. I have access to all materials related to an MSCS, it's just on my to do list. I'm also going to be gunning for a CCENT and/or CCNA cert in the future, and as for the BS, I'm currently attending ITT for that. Hopefully, all this adds up to something profitable and fun! Yayyyy.....

[Greyhatter]

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Ha. You don't have to worry about shooting me. Uncle Sam will be nearby to sit me down on a sandpaper-covered road cone after dosing me with some chloroform XD

I've touched on a lot of infosec areas, having worked with DARPA programmers/engineers (hell, I've gotten drunk with a few of them), and the regular gamut of protocols you have to deal with when you have a clearance. Unfortunately, yeah, I can't talk about most of what I have dealt with due to security issues. But I am working diligently on an associates in networking, and am trying to get all the knowledge and wisdom I can on the area(s) of network security. Even though I've been exposed to a great deal of experience, I'm now trying to get my knowledge and skill on the same level.

Tough row to hoe, I tell you.

Anything here dealing with programming or security specifically interest you?

BTW, the associates is a fine launch but also consider a BS or MS CS, along the way. It's actually a tougher row to hoe without these moving toward the top whence you plant youself .

[Ænder]

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Ha. You don't have to worry about shooting me. Uncle Sam will be nearby to sit me down on a sandpaper-covered road cone after dosing me with some chloroform XD

I've touched on a lot of infosec areas, having worked with DARPA programmers/engineers (hell, I've gotten drunk with a few of them), and the regular gamut of protocols you have to deal with when you have a clearance. Unfortunately, yeah, I can't talk about most of what I have dealt with due to security issues. But I am working diligently on an associates in networking, and am trying to get all the knowledge and wisdom I can on the area(s) of network security. Even though I've been exposed to a great deal of experience, I'm now trying to get my knowledge and skill on the same level.

Tough row to hoe, I tell you.

[Greyhatter]

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The articles have been great, and I've taken in a lot of knowledge. I do hope to see more threads like this in the future.

By all means pony up to the thread and share. Will we have to shoot ya' if you divulge the military stuff? ;~)