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    I am new to defcon, this will be my first time going, I cannot wait. Any suggestions on what to bring or do? Please feel free to answer that.....Cause i feel in the dark on this one.




    Enven.

    p.s Hello.
    A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.
    -
    William S. Burroughs

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    Originally posted by enven
    I am new to defcon, this will be my first time going, I cannot wait. Any suggestions on what to bring or do? Please feel free to answer that.....Cause i feel in the dark on this one.
    First, though the rules are primarily for the forums, they will help you with some of the questions you will want answered even if you have not asked them.

    Next, if you had spent some time lurking in these forums before posting, you might have encountered HighWizard's Unofficial FAQ for DefCon as part of HighWizard's sig. and the "Defcon Bible/FAQ" thread.

    Next, there are some threads within the PreDefCon section which address this kind of thing. For example:
    " First Timer"
    "Is DefCon for Me"
    "Admission"

    Good luck. (Read the rules first... they include a suggestion to your trying to find a related thread and lurking before posting.
    Choosing _not_ to follow the rules may result in you becoming "open-game" or "target practice" on these forums)

    HTH

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TheCotMan
      First, though the rules are primarily for the forums, they will help you with some of the questions you will want answered even if you have not asked them.

      Next, if you had spent some time lurking in these forums before posting, you might have encountered HighWizard's Unofficial FAQ for DefCon as part of HighWizard's sig. and the "Defcon Bible/FAQ" thread.

      Next, there are some threads within the PreDefCon section which address this kind of thing. For example:
      " First Timer"
      "Is DefCon for Me"
      "Admission"

      Good luck. (Read the rules first... they include a suggestion to your trying to find a related thread and lurking before posting.
      Choosing _not_ to follow the rules may result in you becoming "open-game" or "target practice" on these forums)

      HTH
      Thanks for the heads up. Just went through all the info..yes, I cant wait to come.
      Last edited by enven; June 13, 2004, 00:30.
      A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.
      -
      William S. Burroughs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by enven
        Thanks for the heads up. Just went through all the info..yes, I cant wait to come.
        Well, since this is your first DefCon, welcome! My first DC was DC11, last year, and yes, it was very enjoyable. A word of wisdom, though--

        0. Read a few books on Las Vegas before you come. LV is like no other city on earth - Remember - those ain't newspapers in those free newspaper holders!
        1. Arrive early and leave as late as possible. Las Vegas has lots to offer, even for the non-gambler, and you may want to take in as much as possible.
        2. Stay at a hotel near the AP. If you can, get a room at the AP, but since it's sold out, I would probably reccomend the Hard Rock hotel, if money is no objet, or if you want to go a little cheaper, the Comfort Inn on Paradise Road is right across the street IIRC from the Hard Rock. Both should be within walking distance to the AP. If you want cheap, the HoJo is the cheapest place near the AP, but its about a mile or so walk, not fun in the Las Vegas heat. I stayed there, and I can't reccomend them, unless you don't mind not having the small things like a smoke alarm, lights that work, and a tub that actually drains when you use it.
        3. Pre-register! If you arrive a day early, you can get your badge early!
        4. Lose the technology. Last year, I brought my laptop, my PDA, my cellphone, scanner, ham radio, FRS, label-maker (why?), my GPS and batteries, etc for it all. This year, I'm bringing my laptop, PDA/phone combo, and my digital camera. Bringing all that crap last year, and more importantly, dragging it through the airport was a pain. Travelling light is definitely in order.
        5. Don't buy your food at the AP! Expensive markups, and it's not very good. There's a convenience store on the corner of E. Harmon and Paradise road, with a pizza counter and a Baskin-Robbins. Or, you can wander out onto the strip or wherever and eat at the casinos, the food there is cheap to draw in the gambling crowd.
        6. Don't piss people off. Remember, you get a lot more, be it info, money, respect, or whatever by being nice to people, and you'll quickly lose any edge you have by coming off as a "know it all". Oh, and the goons are not to be trifled with!
        7. Attend the talks! Get in line for the talks you want *early* - the fire code is strictly enforced, and the "good" talks fill up quick!
        8. Get out and meet people! Last year, I was fortunate enough to meet the Cheshire Catalyst (an oldschool phreak) and I never would have met him had I just sat in front of my computer in my room.
        9. Watch your stuff. If you have any tech, bring as little of it to DC as possible. Remember, if you bring your laptop in the morning, you've got to drag it along all day until you get back to your hotel, possibly as late as 4 AM!
        A. Don't limit yourself to the "posted" con hours, it was worth missing the final shuttle bus back to my hotel to see Hacker Jeopardy. Lots of interesting things take place "after hours"
        B. Learning takes place everywhere. You might learn more in 5 minutes with another hacker than in an entire semester's worth of CS classes! There's a reason you were given two eyes and ears but only one mouth... it's so you can watch and listen twice as much as you talk...
        C. If you want reliable connectivity, bring your own. Yes, there is public WiFi, but someone once said that using the public network at DC is like sticking your member into a cesspool. And, often, the network is brought down by people trying to do funny things to other people over the network.
        D. Encryption is your friend. If you do use the public DefCon network, don't use plaintext protocols. If you do, you can expect your username, password, and IP address to be posted on the wall of sheep.
        E. Drink lots of WATER! Las Vegas is hot! If you feel thirsty, you're already starting to get dehydrated. Cutting your DC experience short due to dehydration / heatstroke is no fun, especially since water is readily available both from fountains and in bottled form. Also, drink water instead of soda / booze / etc. It's okay to drink lots of soda but you should drink lots of water too, since it is the best way to rehydrate yourself.
        F. Have fun! Like I said before, while you can learn a lot at DC, it's also a lot of fun, if you want it to be.

        Well, I'm sure there's more I could say, but that should get you started. I'm staying in the Comfort Inn, on Paradise Road. 62.00 a night, booked online. Make sure you choose the internet users' rate. If you want to meet, PM me here and we'll make plans to meet sometime before the con.

        -Wembely

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        • #5
          If you only remember ONE things for Defcon it is this: Listen.

          You were give one mouth but TWO ears. You should listen twice as much as you talk, it is the best way to learn.

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