Binary Q- urgent!

[ttickzz]

I take it you don't watch Family Guy.

LosT

hehe.. no you are right. Not even heard about it here. I looked it up now.
When you wrote FamilyGuy I was thinking some kind of ID to someone :o
so I was completely lost here

[LosT]

Is is only me which have lost my sense of humour ? Seriously I do not understand the point in this statement.

I take it you don't watch Family Guy.

LosT

[ttickzz]

"Math is nothing more than the lesbian sister of biology"

LosT

Is is only me which have lost my sense of humour ? Seriously I do not understand the point in this statement.

[LosT]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life..

..but a quote from Family Guy tonight just seemed like it needed to be posted here

"Math is nothing more than the lesbian sister of biology"

LosT

[LosT]

Binaries are math, and I am not so sure there are any easier way to learn them than going "the hard way".

You obviously didn't read my response to this whole situation earlier.

Binary is a number system, a base. In general terms, math is language. But we won't get into that here...

All your number base are belong to us.

LosT

[ttickzz]

I understand why you were suggesting he start there, I just looked at some of those notes- pretty well written stuff, however, I fear that a more basic starting point may be necessary here. (Trying to be PC about this answer.)LosT

Yepp. I know - that is why I mentioned that he also had basic books.. The "Elementhary mathematic" is very fundamental, and it cover parts of the primary school curriculum here in my country .

Binaries are math, and I am not so sure there are any easier way to learn them than going "the hard way".

[LosT]

I can help you on your way if you really want to learn this. You can start with discrete mathematetic, and the mathematican William Chen has published a fully version of some of his books here

If someone doesn't understand some basic math/number skills, I wouldn't point them towards discrete to start with. You might as well tell them to start with eplison-delta proofs. Learn basic skills first, then go on.

I understand why you were suggesting he start there, I just looked at some of those notes- pretty well written stuff, however, I fear that a more basic starting point may be necessary here. (Trying to be PC about this answer.)

LosT

[ttickzz]

hey what does that un mean , even if it is mean i want to learn what i have to learn to understand it.

I can help you on your way if you really want to learn this. You can start with discrete mathematetic, and the mathematican William Chen has published a fully version of some of his books here

http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~wchen/ln.html

In fact, they are very good. When you have gone through his Discrete Mathematics book, I am sure you will understand the answers you got here.
If you are in need for basic, you will also find books about that

[DigitalContact]

On the topic of the un-possibility of me failing english, the book ''Eats. Shoots and Leaves'' has to be the most interesting book on punctuation I have ever read.

aNd a-s YoU . (a/\/ sEE it" ha!s " rea~lly Holp{ed mae!

Thanks for pointing out the erroneous nature of my lazy typing grammar. Has anyone noticed the differences between the american and Irish spelling of some words?

[ndex]

beer penalty! 10 yards closer to pool 3!!

fool! everyone knows all the 1337x0r pirates use win32 (and dectionary.com) rrrr

You have earned a beer penalty. You owe me a beer for making me read that and you must move 10 yards closer to pool 3.

[LosT]

But there's no minus sign in binary >:)

If the above were an answer to me, I would not take it as a flame. I would take it as a joke, and the only way it makes fun of you is if you don't work to understand it. If you take the time to learn about binary and how it can be used, you will eventually come across something to help you understand the above post from LosT.

I *was* going to make some reference to being negative, but I thought it might already be over his head ;)

Anyone who wants to learn about binary should start by learning about number bases. Learn to convert between bases BY HAND. Base 8 (Octal, for the slow kids), Base 16 (Hex, for the even slower kids: "Hey how much is $FF in American dollars?!?!") and finally base 2 (binary: "Isn't %1100100 more than 100%?") Really neat things can be done in code where you play with shifting bits (you can save lots of code space *and* speed up some executions).

And I *have* to say this in reply to digi's last post:

Ralph Wiggum: "Me fail English? That's un-possible."

If you really want to understand my post, try adding it to yours. You'll see that we get nowhere. ;)

LosT

[TheCotMan]

hey what does that un mean , even if it is mean i want to learn what i have to learn to understand it. if it is sarcastic THANKS I REALLY MERITED A FLAMING (in disguise) if not ,sorry.

If the above were an answer to me, I would not take it as a flame. I would take it as a joke, and the only way it makes fun of you is if you don't work to understand it. If you take the time to learn about binary and how it can be used, you will eventually come across something to help you understand the above post from LosT.

Almost any time a joke is explained, it's charm and entertainment is destroyed. It would be a disservice to this joke to explain it, and I won't do it.

A number of papers exist out there to explain different things that can be done with binary. Use google to find these, and you will be on your way.

[DigitalContact]

hey what does that un mean , even if it is mean i want to learn what i have to learn to understand it. if it is sarcastic THANKS I REALLY MERITED A FLAMING (in disguise) if not ,sorry.

[TheCotMan]

Just to really confuse things, how about I pay you a compliment (twice as nice)? You know, while you "reas up on the nature of no.s"...

00000000 while I carry you out,
11111000
11111001
11111001
11110111
11111011
11111001
11111011
11111011
11110111

LosT

Subtle. Very clever. Very nice. Witty.
I like this reply very much. :-)

[Edit: added content below]
Of course some might say you were being a bit negative. ;-)

[LosT]

I'll pay you a compliment, just to confuse matters:

00000000
00001000
00000111
00000111
00001001
00000101
00000111
00000101
00000101
00001001

Help much appreciated, also a reccomendation on a binary guide text wud b nice tho not ness as i reas up on the nature of no.s

Just to really confuse things, how about I pay you a compliment (twice as nice)? You know, while you "reas up on the nature of no.s"...

00000000 while I carry you out,
11111000
11111001
11111001
11110111
11111011
11111001
11111011
11111011
11110111

LosT