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  • TheCotMan
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    This thread has the danger of becoming a thread on politics.

    If you are reading this post, resist the urge to post political opinion in reply.

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  • ravyn
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    Originally posted by TheCotMan
    and asking people who consider the U.S. as a tyranny to visit China, Iraq, etc....
    although i didn't catch this talk or priest's venting (my vodka adventures from friday night's leetest link put a serious damper on my saturday activities), i always find things like this somewhat insulting - i think even the most rabid anti-american american would be willing to admit that we've got it better over here than the people in china or iraq, but that's missing the point - which is that just because it's better than some places doesn't mean that it's the way it ought to be.

    one can be thankful and yet still discontent enough to want improvement.

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  • TheCotMan
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    Originally posted by Voltage Spike
    What he was "venting" about this time? How to responsibly handle/debate differing opinions? A warning against issuing a "call to arms"?
    ...Comments on people who work to make defcon work as being at different places on the political spectrum, but all share the right to speech, the constitution, etc. and asking people who consider the U.S. as a tyranny to visit China, Iraq, etc....

    Priest did well this year; he did not blanket accuse everyone as being bad people, but chose to target the people who actually deserved it.

    Even the comments he made were more statements of opinion than accusation.

    Most of what he had to say was funny.

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  • y6y6y6
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    The venting was mainly his opinion that the kid was a terrorist rather than a freedom fighter, and that people who didn't want to vote should STFU.

    Priest got old for me a couple years ago. Same jokes every year. Same shameless need to preempt panels with his own show. I'd miss him if he wasn't there, but I cringe whenever he enters the room.

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  • Voltage Spike
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    Originally posted by TheCotMan
    This also seems to explain conditions leading to Priest's "venting" for 6 minutes at the beginning of Dan Kaminsky's "Black Ops of TCP/IP 2004" which took place only a bit after that talk.
    I missed Priest's venting (I caught the talk just as Priest was doing a quick Spot-The-Fed). What he was "venting" about this time? How to responsibly handle/debate differing opinions? A warning against issuing a "call to arms"?

    I know that it is difficult to berate the attendees of Defcon in the same elegant manner as Priest, but a short summary would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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  • TheCotMan
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    Originally posted by zero

    http://www20.tomshardware.com/business/200408021/defcon-07.html

    near the bottom of the page under "Tempers Flare"
    One of the many reasons why it is bad Karma to bring Politics to DefCon.

    This also seems to explain conditions leading to Priest's "venting" for 6 minutes at the beginning of Dan Kaminsky's "Black Ops of TCP/IP 2004" which took place only a bit after that talk.

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  • zero
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    related

    First story I've seen on this was on (of all places) Tom's Hardware:

    http://www20.tomshardware.com/business/200408021/defcon-07.html

    near the bottom of the page under "Tempers Flare"

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  • icer
    started a topic Fate of a speaker

    Fate of a speaker

    Anybody know what happened to the guy that spoke on Saturday about cyberprotesting the RNC? He digressed into blowing stuff up and killing people and that wasn't cool. I heard he was in some trouble over that.
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