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  • Defcon in the UK?

    OK, so i live in the UK. I was wondering if there were any conventions/events happening in mcgdog anytime soon, and if so who the def con reps are in mcgdog.

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    whoops

    Hi, sorry, i meant london, not mcgdog.... (thats my fliter in action, doesnt like me giving away personal info....) sorry

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    • #3
      Originally posted by visualbenjie
      Hi, sorry, i meant london, not mcgdog.... (thats my fliter in action, doesnt like me giving away personal info....) sorry
      Within 24 hours iof making your post, you should see an "edit" link in the bottom right corner of you message to allow you to go back and change content.

      Defcon is not a mobil event. It started in Las Vegas and returns there every year. There are DefCon Groups that have meetings in locations throughout the world. Visit that page for information about a group tha meets in London and an email address for a coordinator.

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      • #4
        And remember, if there isnt a Defcon Group meeting in your area, that doesnt mean you are SOL, it just means that its up to you to start one.

        I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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        • #5
          Thanks, will get in contact with london guys. Cheers

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          • #6
            ok well i searched briefly and couldnt find an answer.

            Who and how are the group numbers decided for defcon groups?
            Twigman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Twigman
              ok well i searched briefly and couldnt find an answer.

              Who and how are the group numbers decided for defcon groups?
              In the U.S., by area code. In non-U.S. countries, they seem to use country code and city code, or a similar regional break-down to the US area codes.

              (This is borrowed from 2600 regional meeting name/assignment.)

              [Added content]
              Notice how the country code for the UK is 44 and the next two digits for the UK/London group is 20 (4420)? This "20" is likely a regional code that include london, or a city code for London.
              Yep.Here is a list or regional/city codes. Notice how London's code starts with 20? (20 7 for inner London, 20 8 for outer London.)
              And of course the DC preceeding the number is for DefCon.
              Enjoy!
              Last edited by TheCotMan; April 2, 2005, 10:33. Reason: added content, grammar, typos

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              • #8
                Ah ok thank you.

                Now im going to be *really* fussy then

                DC44011 - Nottingham, United Kingdom
                44 is the country code
                011 is the begininning of the area code.

                In the london number the leading 0 of the area code is dropped as this is what happens when you are dialling. Londons codes are actually 0207 and 0208 (well 020 actually iirc, but I can't be bothered to explain...)
                So in this case it should be 4411 instead.

                That is all.
                Twigman

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                • #9
                  Eventually Defcon may be to big for one Las Vegas hotel, or even the town. We'll have to celebarte worldwide in gatherings, like Earth Day.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Twigman
                    Ah ok thank you.

                    Now im going to be *really* fussy then
                    (Interesting info chopped.)
                    Nice! I learn somethign new every day!

                    In France ... all numbers are expressed as 10 digits, beginning with a zero. Dialing within France, you dial all 10 digits. From abroad, you drop the leading zero. (I found similar things for other countries.)

                    Such a practice would make pre-switching a call as it is dialed difficult as there is no way to know iif and how many zeros were dropped until you know the length of the number dialed. Also, how would they know you are really done entering numbers and not reading more numbers before keying? Timing. This is a really interesting problem to solve if you try to build FSM to model it.

                    Your information actually causes this to make more sense:OVERSEAS TIP: No matter which company you use for your overseas calls, to make your calls go through faster, always press the "#" key (the "pound" key) after the last digit. On international calls, this signals the phone company's computer that you've dialed all the numbers you're going to dial, and to start placing the call.
                    Before, I just figured the phone company just did not want to deal with special cases of different countries having different lengths for their phone numbers.

                    Thanks for what you called being "fussy"! It makes me think about how the phone company might deal with it when they used old switching equipment. :-)

                    (No. I am not being sarcastic.)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheCotMan
                      In the U.S., by area code. In non-U.S. countries, they seem to use country code and city code, or a similar regional break-down to the US area codes.

                      (This is borrowed from 2600 regional meeting name/assignment.)

                      [Added content]
                      Notice how the country code for the UK is 44 and the next two digits for the UK/London group is 20 (4420)? This "20" is likely a regional code that include london, or a city code for London.
                      Yep.Here is a list or regional/city codes. Notice how London's code starts with 20? (20 7 for inner London, 20 8 for outer London.)
                      And of course the DC preceeding the number is for DefCon.
                      Enjoy!

                      those bastard get 4420 as their local group's call sign, that's wack! I wish we were lucky enough, man I wish I lived in Wisconsin, that would solve this problem. But then, I'd be living in Wisconsin!
                      "Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups"

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                      • #12
                        Actually knowing this makes my life a lot easier. You can tell what country/area the groups are from without having to look it up.
                        Twigman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Twigman
                          Actually knowing this makes my life a lot easier. You can tell what country/area the groups are from without having to look it up.
                          Heh.-heh :-)

                          The number "420" has special meaning to certain people.
                          From "4420" the leading "4" can be "leet-speak" translated to become "for" to give us "for 420"

                          You can connect the rest of the pieces on your own.

                          So, what happens on 4/20 [in 4420 or 420] at 4:20? (heh heh)
                          Last edited by TheCotMan; April 5, 2005, 15:58. Reason: added content in [ ]

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                          • #14
                            Ah right thank you ;)

                            Got to try and think of other amuzing geek related number that might come up...404? 1337? nah...I'll just go to bed.
                            Twigman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Twigman
                              Ah right thank you ;)

                              Got to try and think of other amuzing geek related number that might come up...404? 1337? nah...I'll just go to bed.
                              Error DC404 URL for meeting has been found.

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