Hello, was just wondering if anyone here has been able to use sit-ins at Defcon seminars as credit to get certifications renewed, like the CISSP...
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Originally posted by Sam ShazaamHowever attendance at DEFCON could easily be seen as a reason to deny certification
Usually CISSP credits for renewal need to come from a more structured event, such as Trainings (not brefings) at BlackHat, or SANS tracks. There is no test at the end of a talk, and DefCon doesn't really have focused learning tracks."Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups"
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Originally posted by Sam ShazaamThe information in the seminar is excellent. However attendance at DEFCON could easily be seen as a reason to deny certification, especially CISSP. They would likely see it as giving a locksmithing license to a safe cracker. Any one attending a hacker convention is suspect.
As hackajar said, this is just silly. I actually looked to see if this nonsense was posted on April 1st.
You will not lose your CISSP for attending DEF CON. That's just retarded.perl -e 'print pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
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Not what I meant to say
I did not mean to say that you would lose accreditation by attending DEFCON. Certification is used to boost your own cause, typically on a resume. Most of the people I work with know I attend DEFCON. I do not put it on my resume however. I have great respect for the training at DEFCON but I would not expect any one outside the community to honor it.
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Putting DEFCON on a resume, to me, is like telling me you were in the TKE fraternity in college. It says more about you as a person than the education received.
That can be good. I'd never want to work for anyone who thought Defcon sucked.
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Originally posted by astcellPutting DEFCON on a resume, to me, is like telling me you were in the TKE fraternity in college. It says more about you as a person than the education received.
That can be good. I'd never want to work for anyone who thought Defcon sucked.Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.
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I'll use this on my resume, che. This is me in the bottom right corner!
Did I mention my pool2girl business cards?
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Cant' get laid elsewhere???
try Delta (tri-delt)
Goddess I really didn't like those snot-nosed wenches...dumb, but easy...
Wait...hrmmmm....oh! screw it!
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Originally posted by astcellI'll use this on my resume, che. This is me in the bottom right corner!
Did I mention my pool2girl business cards?
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yes you can
Originally posted by Demon FurorHello, was just wondering if anyone here has been able to use sit-ins at Defcon seminars as credit to get certifications renewed, like the CISSP...
2. Attendance at Defcon is not by itself an ethical violation or reason to get you bounced from CISSP-hood unless you do something else that is stupid.
3. With reference to #2 above, if you do something truely stupid at Defcon, I'm sure one of the scads of feds, intel spooks, cops, Treasury agents, Secret Service agents etc etc at the con will gladly show you the errors of your ways;-) That would be a bigger problem than being at odds with ISC2.
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Originally posted by Demon FurorNow how to explain to my employer why the company paying for my trip to a hacker conference is necessary, any ideas?
Suggestions are same as any sale... find what motivates the person, and advertise to them directly by feeding these motivations.
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Originally posted by Demon FurorHello, was just wondering if anyone here has been able to use sit-ins at Defcon seminars as credit to get certifications renewed, like the CISSP...45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B0
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Originally posted by TheCotManPull out technical descriptions of previous presentations and find several that will help your employer to be more effective, or efficient if you were educated about them. Compare and contrast the cost of presentations offered at BlackHat to the cost of those offered at DefCon. Sell your employer on BlackHat, and then check to make sure payment for blackhat still gets you into DefCon. Explain that attending both will allow you to ask questions in presentations of BlackHat that ran the same times as the ones you attended.
Suggestions are same as any sale... find what motivates the person, and advertise to them directly by feeding these motivations.
btw, this is in no way a plug or supporting endorsement for BMW. :D.:. Adrenaline .:.
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Originally posted by Demon FurorThis is great to know :).
Now how to explain to my employer why the company paying for my trip to a hacker conference is necessary, any ideas?
I have personally never used defcon for CPE's, but I can't see that it would be a problem.
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