Some new hacks...

[general cow]

I was just wondering a bit because this wasn't in the rules, are we allowed to post hacks that are legal (I think, I've been caught before and never been in more trouble than getting computer rights revoked for a day) and would probably help out a lot of us?

I did too, notice that no one else had any of these, so if not, just quietly tell me so and please don't ban me.

Thanks,
General Cow

[hackajar]

Depends on what YOU mean by "hacks". I posted a snort vulerability a few months back. But it was without example code, and only becuase the expolit targeted an IDS system. This deemed the posting extreamly helpful for the white hats.

Others might have better words on this then me. But that's my take on it.

[TheCotMan]

...are we allowed to post hacks that are legal...?

You should be able to find examples of this on the forums. Hacks have been posted before. IMO they are nicer when they include a social element on the purpose and reason.

Exmples Cited.
[1],[2],[3],[4],[5].

[Sometimes, items are published on security lists and discussed or mentioned here.]

[general cow]

OK, thanks guys.

As I think we all know, many of the hackers on these forums (including me)are smart kids. As kids we have to go to school everyday where they have crappy computers with bess and such installed. So, I have found a small arsenal of anti-blocker hacks which I've used before and, like I said, never gotten in anymore trouble than getting computer privileges revoked.

1.Proxy: If you've heard of a proxy, good. They use the fact that the blocker blocks certain IP's and ports. I went surfing the web for a few and only found ones that are available for a selected few sites. However my brother has one on his website that is functional brickballs.no-ip.com (when typing don't include "www." or our browser might not go). Simply go to PHProxy in the navigation and type in your blocked site's URL... and voil'a! It works!

2.Using IP Adresses to Your Advantage:

• Pinging-Open the command prompt (or kernel but I'm not to familiar with Linux) by going to "Run" in the start menu and typing "COMMAND" if you have Windows 98 or older. If you have Windows NT 2000, type "CMD" or "COMMAND". Type "PING the name of your website" (with a space between them) It will give you the sites IP address (Internet Protocol) and a bunch of other information. Type the sites IP address into the URL bar of your browser, this works for most sites.
• Gateway Ip Adresses-Open the command prompt or kernel. Type "IPCOFIG". It will give you your IP address and your gateway IP address (the IP address I got to go I'll finish this tommorow

[highwizard]

OK, thanks guys.

As I think we all know, many of the hackers on these forums (including me)are smart kids.

I'd guess the Average age of people who have a higher post count then 300 is above 18, so legally most of the hackers on here are adults... And who said you were smart? I most definitely didn't!

As kids we have to go to school everyday where they have crappy computers with bess and such installed.

Not really, most of us have to goto work everyday, where will hate people like you who try to get around a filter and download shit onto the network from an unprotected source and then complain that their computer doesn't work.

So, I have found a small arsenal of anti-blocker hacks which I've used before and, like I said, never gotten in anymore trouble than getting computer privileges revoked.

Except this is also grounds for expulsion at many schools.

You said you were going to show hacks... You lied!

[TheCotMan]

1 Proxy...
2 Using IP Adresses to Your Advantage...

Yeah. these are covered in many of the forum's threads on getting around filters, like the problem posed by the user from China, and there many others. :-)

You said you were going to show hacks... You lied!

Related to what HighWizard wrote, Hacking is not the same thing as "bypassing security measures."

As examples, I can think of two cable TV shows that show examples of hacking in non-computer areas:
* Monster Garage
* Myth Busters

Especially myth busters... this is the kind of stuff some hackers will do in their chosen fields of specialization; much of it starts with "What if...?" and moves to, "Oh yeah! This is going to be fun!"

[Badkarma]

Yes, the answers provided to me in that thread by Cotman and astcell was of great help. Now, I can basically get the information I want/need by "lessening" the govs restrictions.

On topic:

At work, we do have pc user's network policy. You actually click "I agree" every morning when you open up your pc. The system, usually quarantines sites and email attachments. The way to go around this is to tell the admin. If you can prove that the site or attachment is vital to your work, then access shall be provided. Its that easy.
But if you know that you are doing something else and it is not work related, I don't think that you would even bother to call up the admin.

In schools, the manner of going round this should be the same. That's why they have admins. The admins are not hired to give you a hard time, he actually helps in the security of the school and if you are able to "hack" in to him, he might lose his job or you being expelled or both. Either way, its all bad.

Besides, theres a lot more things to learn in school. Dont invest your time making someone lose their living.


BK

[general cow]

Well, sorry I guess I was wrong, at my school doing anything you aren't supposed to on computers is considered "hacking" by all the kids and the administrators never come. In that case I guess I won't need to finish that since you all already know everything I know and more. I do remeber that one of the rules was not to bring up things that have already been covered; I guess I just haven't spent enough time on this forum yet.

To badkarma: Yes, there are many things better to do at school other than bypassing filters. Currently I'm at the top of 2 of my classes and nearly there in the three. I've made it a strong point among my fellow friends that bypass filters to do so only during lunch after we've finished eating. I, too would call the admin except for two reasons: 1)Usually I'm trying to get to gaming sites or DefCon. 2)The teachers have tried before and nothing ever happened.

To highwizard: Since the only "hackers" I personally know are my friends (all of them kids), I assumed that many of you would also be kids. I also based this assumption on a Coast to Coast (radio) show quote I heard: "Today's hackers are the grown up kids from the '80s..." I thought that if they were kids in the 1980s, then the newest of us would also be kids. I've never been threatened with anything near expulsion at my school.

[Thorn]

... I assumed that many of you would also be kids. ...

Bad assumption. Hell, if you're still in high school I own underwear older than you. There are at least half-a-dozen of us here that are well into "middle age" and the majority here are at least old enough to drink.

[general cow]

As I see, Thorn.

Since many of you people on this forum are older than me and don't like me now, I'll try to keep my mouth shut and not start new threads unless I'm sure no one else knows of the subject.

Once again sorry.

[highwizard]

To highwizard: Since the only "hackers" I personally know are my friends (all of them kids), I assumed that many of you would also be kids. I also based this assumption on a Coast to Coast (radio) show quote I heard: "Today's hackers are the grown up kids from the '80s..." I thought that if they were kids in the 1980s, then the newest of us would also be kids. I've never been threatened with anything near expulsion at my school.

I believe the quote was refering to people who were teenagers in the 80's moreover, kids doesn't refer to babies and you were most likely still a kid in the 90's. Do you remember NKOTB?

[general cow]

No, I don't. Was it another radio station? Yes, I was a kid in the '90s. Did you read my reply to Thorn yet? You might like to hear that, I don't really know though.

[highwizard]

No, I don't. Was it another radio station? Yes, I was a kid in the '90s. Did you read my reply to Thorn yet? You might like to hear that, I don't really know though.

New Kids on The Block...

[Thorn]

As I see, Thorn.

Since many of you people on this forum are older than me and don't like me now, I'll try to keep my mouth shut and not start new threads unless I'm sure no one else knows of the subject.

Once again sorry.

No one said we "don't like you", I was just pointing out that it was just a bad assumption on your part to think that the majority here are high school age. Contribute if you have something interesting to say. Let me just add one thing: Lurking/reading/searching for a long time is a really good idea.

[TheCotMan]

In that case I guess I won't need to finish that since you all already know everything I know and more.

I don't know everything. I am still a newbie. If I knew everything and were elite what reason would I have to ask questions?

I assumed that many of you would also be kids

I'm not much of a kid, but I act like one.

Since many of you people on this forum are older than me and don't like me now, I'll try to keep my mouth shut and not start new threads unless I'm sure no one else knows of the subject.

Correction is not the same as dislike. I've made plenty of mistakes here and been corrected, but still I come back.
However, lurking a bit, and reading through older threads may give you more knolwedge and ideas or things to investigate. It will also help you to get a glimpse of what people are like.