Looks like the cat's out of the bag

[Windblows User]

Nerds make better lovers because they're so naive and innocent in all their actions and what-not. Not because they know what they're doing, but because they're extremely nervous. Like, "The FBI is at my door" nervous.


I know thats true of me, anyway... not that I'm a nerd... But damn I need some hobbies...

[TheCotMan]

Cotman, I don't see how a "geek" (in the original sense of the word) could be considered good looking. The term "geek" originally was applied to those who worked in carnival sideshows, i.e. "The Amazing Turtle Boy", "The Elephant Man", "The Bearded Fat Lady", "The Human Pin Cushion" (he was the guy who drove nails into his head), etc.

Not all circus geeks were given their title because of how they looked; some geeks were given their name because of their acts:
Sword swallowing, glass eating, bug/grub eating, chicken head biting, etc.

I think that the term "Nerd" is the correct one to apply to someone of high intelligence (which makes them stand apart from the crowd), and that is their way of being "stange and unusual. So I would say that there could be good looking nerds, but I doubt that there would be any good looking geeks.

Yeah. I prefer the description of nerd too. However, geek is one of those words that has been used so much in ways that it was not originally intended, that we have a tough time finding a modern dictionary that does not include the present meaning of a special techie.

Meanings of words change over time and "new words" take the place of the old:
gimp, crippled. handicapped, disabled, "special", differently abled
As the meaning of old words is associated with something different, a new word is used.

[Floydr47]

I've liked this quote for some people, "You are unique-- just like everyone else."

[Added:]
So, what else is associated with geek? Is it possible for someone to have great looks and also be a geek? Are there any examples?

Cotman, I don't see how a "geek" (in the original sense of the word) could be considered good looking. The term "geek" originally was applied to those who worked in carnival sideshows, i.e. "The Amazing Turtle Boy", "The Elephant Man", "The Bearded Fat Lady", "The Human Pin Cushion" (he was the guy who drove nails into his head), etc. These people were true "geeks", meaning people who were strange and unusual looking. I think that the term "Nerd" is the correct one to apply to someone of high intelligence (which makes them stand apart from the crowd), and that is their way of being "stange and unusual. So I would say that there could be good looking nerds, but I doubt that there would be any good looking geeks. However, everybody to there own taste as the farmer said when he kissed his cow.

[EvilMoFo]

Is it possible for someone to have great looks and also be a geek? Are there any examples?

a couple of the female geeks i know are great looking.... they are also taken

[Gadsden]

Translation, nerds are suckers with fat wallets. Let 'em touch your goodies from time to time and the money will keep flowing.

That is the upside of being a cheap bastard... you thin that heard out VERY quickly..

[bascule]

Is it possible for someone to have great looks and also be a geek? Are there any examples?

How about Brian Greene, string theory geek extraordinare, who looks somewhat like John Cusack:

[TheCotMan]

...the problem is kids sometimes misinterpret the saying "be yourself" for "if you act like someone else because that person different then in turn you'll be different".

I've liked this quote for some people, "You are unique-- just like everyone else."

[Added:]
So, what else is associated with geek? Is it possible for someone to have great looks and also be a geek? Are there any examples?

[rot_link]

Originally Posted by lil_freak
Let the fun and research begin.

Google define:geek -
The sort of person who would get really excited at the prospect of using a text editor on a 900 megahertz workstation to write out the definitions of technical terms.

Originally Posted by Xodia
I always saw "geeky" as a term used to describe something a person does that is beyond the norm, out of the interests of most people, something they are exceptionally interested in, and something that they can relate to other people with. Alot of geeks have trouble with people outside of their specific group. I would call Jesse James a car geek, because outside of cars and motorcycles the man doesn't have much else to identify himself by.

It would seem by that your understanding of 'geek' would apply to any highly specialized field, be it computers, medicine, electronics, or anything; as any speciaization would have a rather limited share of similar specialization amongst other people. Actually, *anything* that someone is obsessed with could be 'geeky' with that definition. (obviously tring to figure out what 'normal' isn't too easy either)

HighWiz really asked an enigmatic question, as obviously the understanding of this term is highly individual, and I doubt any two people will give the same definition.

What makes something 'geeky'? Anything one person enjoys working with, or understanding, that another doesn't understand, and has no desire to understand; thus the application of a term to make the unknown acceptable. (I hope that made some sense...)

My thoughts

[Xodia]

That brings to light another very interesting point. What makes something "geeky"? Seriously, think about it and try to define it.

I always saw "geeky" as a term used to describe something a person does that is beyond the norm, out of the interests of most people, something they are exceptionally interested in, and something that they can relate to other people with. Alot of geeks have trouble with people outside of their specific group. I would call Jesse James a car geek, because outside of cars and motorcycles the man doesn't have much else to identify himself by. We're computer geeks and we get along with each other much better because of it.

No, they just fuck wolves in Kentucky... Especially the quiet ones.

I prefer the loud ones. They wriggle and yelp more. Rawr!

[Tao_of_pi]

I agree with this. There is too much peer pressure in school, and many high school kids are slaves to corporate advertising and marketing; they are sheeple.

This is too true, at my school people think they're diversifying themselves by dressing like a goth, punk, wigger, prep, redneck, etc... (no geeks besides me and my friends), the problem is kids sometimes misinterpret the saying "be yourself" for "if you act like someone else because that person different then in turn you'll be different".

[TheCotMan]

I am a little disheartened over the articles flippant use of the words geek and nerd - as if they're interchangeable!

This is a kind of information leakage that allows us to tell that the writer is an outsider.

Don't expect "geek dating" to be coming to a High School near you - Not Gunna Happen.

I agree with this. There is too much peer pressure in school, and many high school kids are slaves to corporate advertising and marketing; they are sheeple.

Also, it's really only a certain segment of the female population that does that (or can do that).

That comes from motivation. Many people value what other people think more than what they themselves feel. Another example of sheeple-- people choosing to do what is "acceptable" instead of what really lights their passion.

What makes something "geeky"? Seriously, think about it and try to define it.

Conventional definition: a person that performs strange acts in front of crowds for money/living. e.g. A Circus geek may bite the heads off of live chickens.
If we ignore the word "crowd" then many people in tech could be considered "geeks" at the moment, since techie stuff is still "strange" to many people.

Cotman: Do I get extra points for keeping a thread on topic?

Of course, but you have been collecting a lot of points since you have been here. When are you going to start spending them?

[lil_freak]

I am a little disheartened over the articles flippant use of the words geek and nerd - as if they're interchangeable!

It's the media, they tend to either tie everything together with one word or use multiple words as if they were one in the same. Maybe someday they'll get it right.

And I think you're kidding yourself, or maybe wishing.
I'd say it's more the latest "trend". It's not that geeks are becoming more attractive, it's that dating a geek is the latest fad. Don't expect "geek dating" to be coming to a High School near you - Not Gunna Happen.

Lastest trend maybe, but then again maybe it's a trend that has just resurfaced. I thought geeks were always attractive, oh wait I am a geek nevermind.

Your absolutely correct, except for the fact that you fail to understand that many geeks now fit the above criteria. Also, it's really only a certain segment of the female population that does that (or can do that).

As HighWiz said many geeks now fit into that criteria, and if you turn the tables many males now also fit into that mass. Agreed, it is only a select group of the female population that does that or would/can do that.

That brings to light another very interesting point. What makes something "geeky"? Seriously, think about it and try to define it.

Thank you HighWiz, you gave me a great idea. Let the fun and research begin.

No, they just fuck wolves in Kentucky... Especially the quiet ones.

I thought it was horses as well, after all it home to the Kentucky Derby. Oh well...at least we get to learn new things everyday.

I am a little disheartened over the articles flippant use of the words geek and nerd - as if they're interchangeable!

Has no one else realized this article is describing the scene whore effect? (Ed: Looks like maybe CotMan did)

I agree to a certain extent, the authors use of certain "celebs" definitely draws light of the scenewhoresc factor.

I don't think so as much. Ladies tend to be going towards geeks more nowadays because geeks are slowly becoming more attractive people. I mean really, Vin Diesel is a Dungeons and Dragons geek. Geek is going mainstream without being scenewhorish.

And I think you're kidding yourself, or maybe wishing.
I'd say it's more the latest "trend". It's not that geeks are becoming more attractive, it's that dating a geek is the latest fad. Don't expect "geek dating" to be coming to a High School near you - Not Gunna Happen.

Trust me you only think that because you live in Ky, in the real world women are still attracted to money, ferrari's and men with power somehow only steve erkel gets the girl because that is tv and this is the real world.

Your absolutely correct, except for the fact that you fail to understand that many geeks now fit the above criteria. Also, it's really only a certain segment of the female population that does that (or can do that).

Besides, Kentucky has lots of geeky things to call its own. Nascar, car modding, shooting stuff whilst drinking, etc. Hillbilly geeks r0x0r.

That brings to light another very interesting point. What makes something "geeky"? Seriously, think about it and try to define it.

What that? Y'all fuck horses in Kentucky?

No, they just fuck wolves in Kentucky... Especially the quiet ones.

Cotman: Do I get extra points for keeping a thread on topic?

[Quiet]

That is Scotland. Were not so much into our sheep here as our horses.

What that? Y'all fuck horses in Kentucky?

[Siviak]

Should we just make some sheep fucking jokes and move on then?

twice in one night... I didn't see this coming