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"It is difficult not to wonder whether that combination of elements which produces a machine for labor does not create also a soul of sorts, a dull resentful metallic will, which can rebel at times". Pearl S. Buck
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I used them a few years ago, and they worked well to cool me down to a reasonable level when I got out of my gear. They don't last very long, so for maintaining your temperature, I wouldn't recommend them, but if you are looking for something to cool you down quickly, check them out.Aut disce aut discede
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Originally posted by skrooOne blatantly obvious thing just occurred to me that didn't get mentioned in this thread previously...
Whatever you do, don't drink only Gatorade or similar sports drinks expecting to beat dehydration.
Seriously, this will fuck you up as badly as if not worse than dehydration and in no short order. Your body needs water, so give it water. Yeah, you need to maintain electrolyte and mineral balances as well, but remeber they're just that - balances. It's real easy to go overboard if you keep having the Pavlovian thirst response of buying Gatorade from the vending machines to keep yourself going. By all means have one if you feel you need it, but don't have more than one every four or five hours. Again, keep a pallet of water on hand in your room or other place and drink it.
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Originally posted by Deviant Ollamhas anyone ever used this product before... "cool offs" by a company called Allegro?
i know i've seen them in a variety of outdoor catalogs, with claims that they stay cool a very long time, can be "refreshed" back to chill temperature very quickly by means of soaking, and that they are relatively non-drip. anyone have experience with them? do they live up to the claims made?Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.
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Originally posted by cheAs a matter of fact, I need to see if I can grab one from work
incidentally... is there anyone who perhaps know what exactly the "gel crystals" inside of the cool-offs are? is it possible just to order those little crystal grains and custom make a cooling garment of one's own design? i'd love to do something like that.Last edited by Deviant Ollam; July 20, 2005, 13:13."I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
- Trent Reznor
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Originally posted by Deviant Ollamincidentally... is there anyone who perhaps know what exactly the "gel crystals" inside of the cool-offs are? is it possible just to order those little crystal grains and custom make a cooling garment of one's own design? i'd love to do something like that.the fresh princess of 1338
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Originally posted by octalpusOn occassion, I make these to sell at festivals. The crystals can be found at Wally World in the plant arranging stuff, over by crafts. They're available in a small bag or a big tub.
is there any chance that this product goes by a specific name or brand? (We don't have Wally Worlds near here, but i imagine that they are sold by other craft, gardening, and plant stores)
[update: it seems that a local garden shop had a product with these crystals in it. "Soil Moist" is a product that uses these polyacrylamide crystals to retain and slowly release water. they sold it for about $11 in a one-pound container... but it looks as if bulk purchases of it could be had for as little as $6 or $7 per pound. heh... i am definitely going to be making those cooling bandanas and selling / giving them as swag at future defcons. hmm... depending on how packed my weekend is i may try to produce them before DC13 in limited amounts.]
"I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
- Trent Reznor
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Originally posted by octalpusOn occassion, I make these to sell at festivals. The crystals can be found at Wally World in the plant arranging stuff, over by crafts. They're available in a small bag or a big tub.
Deviant: I snagged one, trying for more. Yes, I was the one with all the homebrew last year.. bringing some this year although I don't know if I will be dishing it out at the forum meet.. I doubt I will be distributing brew at the meet this year, as I will be on Goon duty then. That should make things more exciting.. no one will know just when the homebrew will be whipped out..Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.
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Originally posted by cheDo you make underwear that has them in it?
Deviant: I snagged one, trying for more. Yes, I was the one with all the homebrew last year.. bringing some this year although I don't know if I will be dishing it out at the forum meet.. I doubt I will be distributing brew at the meet this year, as I will be on Goon duty then. That should make things more exciting.. no one will know just when the homebrew will be whipped out..Never drink anything larger than your head!
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Originally posted by cheI did not go on Goon duty last year w/o mine.. it was worth its weight in gold.. WELL worth it. As a matter of fact, I need to see if I can grab one from work... ;)
question 2: if goons were perhaps given these to wear when they have outdoor detail, what might the best color for them be? red to match the shirts? (that might limit their appeal when people change into typical attire, making people appear as pirates or something) black since it goes with anything? (would that have any counterproductive effect with cooling by the sun heating it?) some light shade? O.D. green? a pattern of some kind?
i'm in a pretty generous mood and might want to whip up some surprises for all of you who slave in the sun to make the con safe and fun. of course, time is getting really short so i don't know what, if any, of my remaining projects will be accomplished before i fly out if they aren't done already.Last edited by Deviant Ollam; July 21, 2005, 18:29."I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
- Trent Reznor
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