Dial-Up

[Chris]

wtf does 'baud' mean? Please try to use english.

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[skroo]

wtf does 'baud' mean? Please try to use english.

Probably the best explanation of what baud is and how it relates to bitrate (no, they are not the same thing) can be found here.

Also, my dsl is also slow because I am so far away from the servic station, if I was closer in town I would have the promised speed.

Unfortunately, that means you're just plain screwed on getting better data rates unless a new CO opens up closer to your location and the telco moves your service over to it. Blame physics.

[jur1st]

wtf does 'baud' mean? Please try to use english. Also, my dsl is also slow because I am so far away from the servic station, if I was closer in town I would have the promised speed.

Baud is a technical term derived from the name of the telecommunications engineer Jean-Maurice-Émile Baudot.

servic on the other hand is not a word in any language.

[minihacker316]

'Baud Modem'

wtf does 'baud' mean? Please try to use english. Also, my dsl is also slow because I am so far away from the servic station, if I was closer in town I would have the promised speed.

[dataworm]

Just use Yahoo dsl for a year (14.95) , then use Quest dsl for a year (19.99) then Earthling dsl (19.95) for 6 months, then Comcast cable (19.99) for 6 months, then repeat the entire proccess as many times as you want, and you get <20.00 broadband internet for as long as the offers last, and considering the drops in prices, you may even get internet for less, unless inflation increases beyond the decreasing cost of maintaining dsl and cable.

Who care? I pay about 60$ a month for my internet access and I don't fucking care about you or your crapy internet connection
Especially since your internet connection seem to be slower than a 300 baud modem

[minihacker316]

dial-up sucks, plain and simple.

Just use Yahoo dsl for a year (14.95) , then use Quest dsl for a year (19.99) then Earthling dsl (19.95) for 6 months, then Comcast cable (19.99) for 6 months, then repeat the entire proccess as many times as you want, and you get <20.00 broadband internet for as long as the offers last, and considering the drops in prices, you may even get internet for less, unless inflation increases beyond the decreasing cost of maintaining dsl and cable.

[TheCotMan]

1 Byte = 8 Bits

What? Oh, those must be Imperial bits. There are actually 10 metric bits per byte, eh?

On a more serious note, some applications compute 1 byte at 10 bits to make computation easier, and use the excuse that it, "accounts for overhead in bits lost to headers at lower layers."

Dataworm does point out something really funny; each complaint posted seems to be about eight smaller than the advertised higher value quoted by the user.

53kbps/8bits=~5kBps
1500kbps/8bits~200kBps

[dataworm]

I mean, the computer modem can only go up to 56 kbps, and due to restrictions, its max speed is 53 kbps, and since you are sharing the companies bandwidth, it decreases further. I used to have that, and the max download speed was 5 kbps. Even with dsl its still like a max of 200kbps, not 1500, and after 10 seconds its down to 30kbps. Those commercials are so... false.

1 Byte = 8 Bits

[minihacker316]

I know, tht is friggin impossible.

I mean, the computer modem can only go up to 56 kbps, and due to restrictions, its max speed is 53 kbps, and since you are sharing the companies bandwidth, it decreases further. I used to have that, and the max download speed was 5 kbps. Even with dsl its still like a max of 200kbps, not 1500, and after 10 seconds its down to 30kbps. Those commercials are so... false.

[[Syntax]]

All I know is I laugh at the commercial that says "dialup so fast you'll think its broadband".

Anyone here that used to use shotgun modems? I only used the software to join 2 modems, never had a shotgun modem card.
Who should I be thanking for broadband, the FCC?

[minihacker316]

actually...

I think most of the problem is that so many users are on dial-up at any time, that the isp's bandwidth is all used up, and you get screwed! However, you could sig up for Nocharge.com's free internet service for seattle, it connects you at around 52 kbps, and automatically uses 30% compresion ratio s a default, so if your phone gives you free unlimited calls to anywhere in the us, you could use no charge for free, and then use something like webwarper.com's cgi-proxy utility to use gzip compresion to further speed up internet. Doing these things, on a 56kbps modem I can download a 1 megabyte program in a minute. Beats 20 with juno.. Also, for a year theres yahoo sbc dsl, same price as, i think juno speadband, but at dsl speads Then the price gets MUCH larger after a year.

[Voltage Spike]

However, one other option would be to set up a local caching proxy (such as squid and use that to retrieve local copies of web content.

For a single-user setup, though, is the squid cache going to provide much benefit over the already-present browser cache? I wouldn't think so, and, if it could, why aren't the Mozilla developers utilizing the same code base?

As for astcell's suggestion about "accelerated" connections, you should know a few things. First, many web sites are already configured to use gzip compression from the server to the browser (and double compression isn't likely to be effective). Second, modems already provide for a simple compression for the connection between the ISP and your computer. So what do the "accelerated" connections get you? They actually alter the content that you receive at your end by recompressing images to a much smaller size (i.e., images from web sites load faster while the rest of the Internet transfers at the same speed). From what I hear, this technique is effective, but there exists a noticeable loss in quality.

[skroo]

I would like to know is there so way that you can hack or download a program to make dial-up download faster or browse on the internet faster.

You can't make a dialup connection any faster than the speed the modem is rated for, period. That's just physics - and even then, it's assuming that the infrastructure that modem connects to is capable of those speeds.

However, one other option would be to set up a local caching proxy (such as squid and use that to retrieve local copies of web content. Admittedly, the first copy received will still happen at dialup speeds, but until the content changes you'll at least be able to refer back to it quickly.

[TheCotMan]

I would like to know is there so way that you can hack or download a program to make dial-up download faster or browse on the internet faster.

Linux supports load balancing with eql, but support is required at the ISP for that to work. You can also get this to work on the ISP end with an old program called "slirp" that make it possible to have a shell account appear to be and act as a PPP link. With multiple dialup to the same shell that included slirp, it was possible to have faster downloads with multiple phone lines.

Now-a-days, it is cheaper and faster and more reliable to go with a broadband solution.

Ahh the bad old days. Three 14.4 (and later 28.8) kbps modems with three phones lines and ~30 (later ~60) kbps throughput with slightly higher latency.

[astcell]

Places like NetZero offer compressed downloads for a few bucks more.

Try here: http://www.netzero.net/

Don't let the door hit you.