BASIC Chat

[LinuxLover]

How old are you?And do you program?

[astcell]

Hey cotman look here you little prick i wrote that code i can program in BASIC is what i meant but i am still learning. Thats the extent of my learnings so far and that is the most complex program i can write. I did not plagorize the program "Guessing Game" i wrote it myself ok...

1. Be nice before I hit you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

2. The "guessing game" is by no means new, original, or entirely that creative. It's like drawing lines on a paper and saying you wrote a game of tic-tac-toe.

[Dutch]

How old are you?And do you program?

S.E. at its best.. NOT!

Dutch

[astcell]

How old are you?And do you program?

The first program I wrote was stored on punch cards.

When BASIC was available to me on a Commodore 64 I made a payroll program for a company. I enjoyed BASIC but soon found myself limited, so I got me a Radio Shack Model 100 laptop (is it a laptop with 8k ram and a puny screen?) and wrote stuff in BASIC to download power information from a windmill grid to communicate with the power company. I later upgraded to an Epson QX-10 and QX-16 system. I debated getting an ADAM but held off.

BASIC is not that basic and I found that I had to purchase proprietary code from companies I dealt with.

But that was many lives ago.

[astcell]

S.E. at its best.. NOT!
Dutch

Well he is not too bad for a 14 year old.

[TheCotMan]

Hey cotman look here you little prick i wrote that code i can program in BASIC is what i meant but i am still learning. Thats the extent of my learnings so far and that is the most complex program i can write. I did not plagorize the program "Guessing Game" i wrote it myself ok...

Typing is not the same thing as writing.

When you copy and paste other people's work, or you type other's work from another source into a computer, and then you claim you wrote it, that is taking credit for other people's work. That is deceptive. You could have cited the source for your typing, and you could have stated in a comment that you transcribed it, or typed it, but it would seem to me that it is not yours, unless you are claiming to be the author of the PDF, or the author of the other posts cited with URL that were posted several months ago.

If that is the extent of your skills, then you skills have not improved in several months.

Would you claim you wrote a page if you photocopied it?

It is all about your reputation. What is your reputation?

[LinuxLover]

I will ask again...Does anybody know where i can find a QBASIC compiler!?!?

[TheCotMan]

How old are you?And do you program?

Old. Yes, I program. I have coded in over 20 languages in my lifetime, but only code in about 3 or 4 languages in my work/private life on a day-to-day basis.

[LinuxLover]

cotman I really dont care what you think...I coded the guessing game. Now i'm sure there are others but i coded this one.

[astcell]

Typing is not the same thing as writing.

Geez with all that typing you'd think he would learn to spell!

I will ask again...Does anybody know where i can find a QBASIC compiler!?!?

Meet Mr. Google. He said: http://tinyurl.com/dbjat

Google is really something to remember to use, it is amazing. Oh, someone coded Google but I guess if you code it too that's okay, in which case you don't need Google.

cotman I really dont care what you think...I coded the guessing game. Now i'm sure there are others but i coded this one.

If we don't seem impressed, do not adjust your monitor.

[skroo]

Hey cotman look here you little prick

Someone's getting uppity. Behave or be banned. This is your only warning.

[TheCotMan]

cotman I really dont care what you think...I coded the guessing game. Now i'm sure there are others but i coded this one.

Let's compare them one line at a time, shall we? I have pulled out lines from the PDF and lined them up with lines from your code.

THIS is ONE line that is not in yours:
;demo01-11.bb - Try to guess the number

Print "Welcome to the Guessing Game!"
Print "Welcome to the Guessing Game!"
AppTitle "Guessing Game!"
AppTitle "Guessing Game!"
; Seed the random generator...don't worry, it willl be explained later
; Seed the random generator...don't worry, it will be explained later
SeedRnd MilliSecs()
SeedRnd MilliSecs()


;Pick a number between 1 and 100
;Pick a number between 1 and 100
numbertoguess = Rand(1,100)
numbertoguess = Rand(1,100)


;The num of guesses the user has used
;The num of guesses the user has used
numofguesses = 0
numofguesses = 0


;set the beginning of loop label
;set the beginning of loop label
.loopbegin
.loopbegin
;Find out the user's guess
;Find out the user's guess
guess = Input$("Guess a number ")
guess = Input$("Guess a number ")


;If player guesses outside of range, tell him to guess again
;If player guesses outside of range, tell him to guess again


Print "Pick a number between 1 and 100, silly!"
Print "Pick a number between 1 and 100, silly!"
;Go back to the beginning
;Go back to the beginning
Goto loopbegin
Goto loopbegin


If guess > 100 Or guess < 1
If guess > 100 Or guess < 1
EndIf
EndIf


;Add a guess to the guess counter
;Add a guess to the guess counter
numofguesses = numofguesses + 1
numofguesses = numofguesses + 1


;If the guess is too low, go back to beginning
;If guess is too low, go back to the beginning
If guess < numbertoguess Then
If guess < numbertoguess Then
Print "The number was too low."
Print "The number was too low."
Goto loopbegin
Goto loopbegin
;If guess is too high, go back to the beginning
;If guess is too high, go back to the beginning
Else If guess > numbertoguess Then
Else If guess > numbertoguess Then
Print "The number was too high."
Print "The number was too high."
Goto loopbegin
Goto loopbegin
EndIf
EndIf


Print "You guessed the number " + numbertoguess + " in " + numofguesses + "tries!."
Print "You guessed the number " + numbertoguess + " in " + numofguesses + " tries!"

And the original had this:
;Wait five seconds
Delay 5000

While you had this:
WaitKey


It looks like the code you created is identical to the code in the PDF with a claimed creation date of March 22, 2003 (over 2 years ago) EXCEPT for removing the first line, and altering the last two lines.

You may have typed, or copied/pasted the code, but you did not create it, nor did you cite the original author or source.

You claim this creation as your own, but it is not.

Copy and paste does not make you a coder! It makes you a secretary. Not citing your sources make you appear to me to be taking credit for someone else's work-- and not even advanced work.

Now comes the interesting part:
If you were a coder, would you choose to share code you created with someone who does not give credit to the original author? Why should you expect others to want to share with someone who does not offer credit where credit is due?

[LinuxLover]

What do you mean pdf file and where would you get it?

[TheCotMan]

What do you mean pdf file and where would you get it?

You seem like you are trolling to me. Did you not read the post I provided earlier?

If you check back, you will see that in this post I showed how google was used to show how "your program" was actually not created by you, but copied from another source. In that post, I offered a link to a PDF file:
-> http://www.blitzprogramming.com/chapter2.pdf <-
See pages 18-19 for where I found someone wrote "your program" over two years before you did.

[highwizard]

You seem like you are trolling to me. Did you not read the post I provided earlier?

CotMat: Maybe he wants to fuck you too. Shit, he was talking about your little prick earlier.