Self Resistance Exercise

[Siviak]

Ah, I wonder if that explains the knife holes in your shirt and not your body at DC13. :>

what can I say man... I'm a ninja...

...just wait until he tracks you down...drunk on Thursday morning before con, wearing only wet shorts, asking you for his shoes

that's not fair... someone stole my shoes. what more was I to do other than get drunk(er) and sit and yell at the top of my lungs at everyone that walked past me " HAVE YOU SEEN MY SHOES?". Besides, it could have been worse, some canadian guy at my table outside ended up giving me piggy-back rides whenever I needed to go anywhere other than the table..... I need to find that guy and buy him a beer.

[Ridirich]

You're a ninja, huh?

So, then you know who Soke Hatsumi is, I take it.

[lil_freak]

that's not fair... someone stole my shoes. what more was I to do other than get drunk(er) and sit and yell at the top of my lungs at everyone that walked past me " HAVE YOU SEEN MY SHOES?".

Um, was this before or after the tasty whiskey?

[Siviak]

So, then you know who Soke Hatsumi is, I take it.

though I have never had tea with him I do know who he is and have heard him speak yes... But I prefer the teachings of Ok Hyung Kim myself

[Ridirich]

though I have never had tea with him I do know who he is and have heard him speak yes... But I prefer the teachings of Ok Hyung Kim myself

That's comparing apples and oranges. Ninjitsu and his "style", a mixture of arts. Both meet the same end, but are simply two differant ways of doing it.

When he chose to mix Judo, TKD, JuJutsu, Hapkido and some other styles all into one style, he basicly made his own style, and it fits more into a suplimental for basic styles, as far as I am concerned. I prefer SCARS, as an addition to my Bujinkan/Ninjitsu though. Having the mathematics behind each move and making those muscle memory is extremely helpful in a CQB situation, which is what most combat a civilian will come into is. It also has information from FEMA and works in compliance with them to better professionals of fire, ems or law enforcement (note the "NBC warefare" training on the site).

[edit] I thought I might add something I find interesting. It seems to me that the more physical weaponry you have, the less apt to attempt to defuse the situation you will become, however the more mental weaponry you have the more apt to defuse the situation you will become. An example:

I am walking down the street and have my k-bar with me, it is 5 1/2 inch, so it's street legal. Now, someone comes up to beat the shit out of me for no damn good reason. I am more likely to shove that knife directly up his ass after, I bend him over my knee for a good whooping, than I would be if I did not have that knife to begin with. Human nature, we always grab the biggest security blanket we can possibly find. [/edit]

[Siviak]

That's comparing apples and oranges....

No it's not, for if you notice (because I am sure you have done your homework), Grand Master Ok Hyung Kim got his title from not oly recieveing black belts from years of work in a multitude o different martial arts but from also forming the Americian Kyuki-do Federation which is a combination og Tae Kwon Do, Judo, and Hapkido. he has done something simmilliar to what Master Hatsumi has done with esentialy the same arts.

So no, it is nothing like comparing apples to oranges. It is much more like comparing Apples to Apples. And as I said, after havig heard Master Hatsumi speak I prefer the teachings of Master Kim.

Um, was this before or after the tasty whiskey?

oh yes.. that was after the tasty whiskey.... you evil evil person you.

[Ridirich]

Yeah, I have done my homework.

I dunno tho man, we may have to agree to disagree, which is fine by me, everyone has their own opinions.

My thing is though, he built upon many styles currently in existance. He basicly made a new martial art which is a combination of many arts. I am not saying he is not skilled, in fact if he can learn all those, he is most definitly skilled. I am saying that there is a differance between an art which is a combination of many arts, and a pure art like Ninjitsu or Hapkido or JKD or traditional karate...by "pure" I simply mean that they have not changed for over a thousand years. Modified slightly, but they are basicly the same as when they first began.

Hatsumi has studdied other arts, true...but he is currently the Grandmaster of Ninjitsu. That is all he teaches. There are many faucets and paths of the art, so it might seem to a newer person who is just looking at it that it is a combination of arts...when in fact it is not. It is set up a specific way so learning a specific thing is easier.

In any event, if we agree or not, hell...no harm, no foul.

[allentrace]

All karate and forms of self defense would not be as we know them if not for Sun Tzu. While this is controversial I believe it to be an acurate statement.

[Ridirich]

For the most part, I agree with that.

[allentrace]

For the most part, I agree with that.

Thank you, I have never taken Karate however my buddy wants me to start Shotokan with him. But like I said my experience with the subject is from a reference point and I would appreciate any experience input on the matter. This is not to say my experience with self defense is nill. I was taught the Marine Corps style of bare hands fighting as well as Marine Corps Greeko Roman wrestling all taught by my father, a Marine of 22yrs.