The Asshole Fiasco

[TheCotMan]

Re: The Asshole Fiasco

People who have been to Defcon understand this PSA (and realize I'm stating the obvious), but people new to Defcon might not:
If this person has been banned from Defcon, don't do anything stupid to this person at Defcon.
If you see them, just notify a Security Goon, so they can take care of it:

* Going to hotel/casino security may require you to provide an ID, and fill out papers and require you to interact with him.
* Taking matters into your own hands could end up causing you to be the next "asshole" (person who is the "last straw that breaks the camel's back") and causes Las Vegas Metro and Hotel/Casino to come down hard on everyone else.

Security Goons can deal with the Hotel/Casino security, and interact with this person in a way, so as to not cause security to take a greater interest in our activities.

This PSA has been brought to you by the Letter 0x44 and the nubers 0x31 and 0x35. :-)

[hackajar]

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Oops! Didn't mean to imply Assassination Politics Sorry Cot.

[TheCotMan]

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Oops! Didn't mean to imply Assassination Politics Sorry Cot.

Heh-heh. Amusing. Sounds like a potential Defcon talk.

[added:]
[By the way, my reply was about the picture. I've seen mob-justice, and it isn't pretty-- it is kind of like what happens to some misfits/geeks in public school, but more physical, and violent. I'm not removing the picture. Someone else can remove it if they want to. [Martha Stewart voice]Leaving it up is a good thing.[/voice]]

[Abby_Normal]

Re: The Asshole Fiasco

I think in some ways we are all to blame. We as adults need to keep a closer eye on the younger people. I met asshole, he was a pleasent, but not very bright kid. We should have kept a closer eye on him.

We all knew the kid was dumb, he should have been kept on a shorter leash.

I think next year we all need to work a litter harder to prevent the underage drinking and general dumbass-ness.

[Miss Jackalope]

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I think in some ways we are all to blame. We as adults need to keep a closer eye on the younger people. I met asshole, he was a pleasent, but not very bright kid. We should have kept a closer eye on him.

We all knew the kid was dumb, he should have been kept on a shorter leash.

I think next year we all need to work a litter harder to prevent the underage drinking and general dumbass-ness.

I totally agree! But then...who would we have fun with?

[Abby_Normal]

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I totally agree! But then...who would we have fun with?

Why don't we just make all the underaged congoers serve us as our monkey butlers?

That would keep them out of trouble, and provide lots of entertainment for us!

[TheCotMan]

Re: The Asshole Fiasco

I think in some ways we are all to blame. We as adults need to keep a closer eye on the younger people. I met asshole, he was a pleasent, but not very bright kid. We should have kept a closer eye on him.

We all knew the kid was dumb, he should have been kept on a shorter leash.

I think next year we all need to work a litter harder to prevent the underage drinking and general dumbass-ness.

I don't think I'll prevent underage drinking, but that does not mean I will be encouraging it.

People have done dumb things at Defcon for years, and I have learned the value of apathy when it comes to observing various pranks. Risks to human life or risks for serious injury certainly would be worthy of intervention, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to police people for drinking or simple pranks at con-- that is work, and I am there to enjoy myself. :-)

[Xodia]

Re: The Asshole Fiasco

Why don't we just make all the underaged congoers serve us as our monkey butlers?

That would keep them out of trouble, and provide lots of entertainment for us!

I agree! Wait a second...

[Chris]

Re: The Asshole Fiasco

I think in some ways we are all to blame. We as adults need to keep a closer eye on the younger people. I met asshole, he was a pleasent, but not very bright kid. We should have kept a closer eye on him.

We all knew the kid was dumb, he should have been kept on a shorter leash.

I think next year we all need to work a litter harder to prevent the underage drinking and general dumbass-ness.

I tend to disagree. I met this asshole before the incident and almost beat the shit out of him. He is an asshole. We wasn't pleasant, he was a jerk.

[Vyrus]

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u know what realy sux about this inadent isnt even what happend, its that it sets a precedent. defcon parties are famous for pushing the limit in any way possible "if you can get in to one" and over time you SLOWLY get to know the right ppl and are better off for it, because hopefully when your done the ppl you meet turn into more than just "drinking buddies". this kinda stuff however is the kinda stuff that makes it hard for stuff like that to happen. dont get me wrong, i manage to troll into my fair share of mayhem in a box gatherings through the fiew and far between connections i have but for the most part im just another random number at defcon. stuff like this dosent help the rep for those of us "faceless minions"

im not about to sanction what happend but i supose this is a call to all traditional "partie givers" at defcon. "evrybody has an asshole, but some of us know how to keep ours shut"

.. please keep this in mind.

[hackajar]

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Vyrus, you can come to our Vegas 2.0 parties any time you want! (just don't forget the chicken;)

[Vyrus]

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hehe thanx :P