Banned from the Riv?

[theprez98]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

in defence of abby and her crew, they really did try to be above board. The hotel was notified that there would be a party and an effort was made to comply with hotel wishes.

Don't get me wrong, I am not attacking anyone's motives. As I stated, having never been to DEFCON, I don't know the way things went down, all I know is what I read here. My goal is the same as everyone else's, that people can have a legitimate party and have fun without outsiders ruining it.

[lil_freak]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Both parties were allowed to continue but got read the riot act and told that as LV Metro were on site there was no room for error. IDs must be checked.

I must add that those who were rude about having to show their id's to get into the parties should have understood and been a bit more friendly towards those of us who had to ask to see them. (Abby, I still bad about not being able to let your friend back to get her purse and id, but I was happy to find you so you could help her.)

Also, after the no-glass containers act was issued people should has also understood that we were following the rules that the hotel asked. If you had to toss your drink because you didn't want to step out of line to finish it or chug it there, then oh well. Thanks to the goons who brought me water so I could keep on yelling.

Does that mean we goons need to work out what to do? Yes. We need to come up with answers and help, but you guys need to help yourselves too.

I agree with cj on this one.

[cjunky]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

thanks for helping. not enough respect goes to the people who take on the boring task of tsanding outside parties keeping drunks out and checking IDS.

I used to be a bouncer so you're the unsung heroes of the con to me as long as you dont try to get in noids way, then i have to crush dismember and destroy.... but ill shed a tear doing it :)

theprez, my words werent criticism just an attempt to put some detail around bits some people know nothing about.

I like to think of myself as a party animal like any other? anyone disagree?

i have a dream.... of parties with unlimited booze. where buckets contain acceptable levels of spirit and people can drink until the sun comes up and the hangover fairies steal their shirts, badges and ultimately their pride.
Where guards offer you directions to your room and where pools dont close just when its getting fun to be in them.

maybe one day....

cj

[converge]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

i have a dream....

I think I shed a tear over this one. I don't think I've ever seen the plight of the sober man so well displayed. Someday man .. stay strong. We will overcome.

[theprez98]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

theprez, my words werent criticism just an attempt to put some detail around bits some people know nothing about.

Hey not a problem. I was only trying to preface my statement with the point that I am one of those people who don't know anything about it since I wasn't there. ;) I think a lot of issues come about because people don't necessarily know the whole story, so everyone's bit contributing to the whole (especially people behind the scenes so to speak) definitely helps to paint a better overall picture.

[[Syntax]]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Hopefully all will run smooth this year.. I think part of it was pure shock and unpreparedness as to what they were about to see when they exited the elevators.

Does anyone know if security had visited the Penthouse floor prior to the whole mess? or when they came looking for people involved in the can incident, was that the first time they saw a thousand people on the top floor, with loud music in 3 places and crowds loitering in the hallways?

It seemed like it started with a few, then multiplied as they called for backup.
Maybe after last years run-in they wont act so harshly if they encounter what looks to be similar chaos.

[cereal76]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Wotcha.
Im pretty sure that the guards didnt wander down the lower floors fucking with people. Why? cos I was one of 4 defcon staff with them. I turned up seconds after it happened and left with the staff.

So did I. I left the DC Groups meet and waited outside the room to hear what was going on with my friends inside. We knew it was serious when Priest showed up. A goon came out and said anyone with belongings in the room registered under the same name as this one should get their stuff out, asap. When I did, hotel security and LVM came into the room and the ban process began.

Does anyone know if security had visited the Penthouse floor prior to the whole mess? or when they came looking for people involved in the can incident, was that the first time they saw a thousand people on the top floor, with loud music in 3 places and crowds loitering in the hallways?

Yea, while they were in the process of banning us from the hotel, they made us cough up ID's. Twinvega was trying his damnedest to give as little information as possible. He lead the LVM on a wild goose chase to find his ID, which eventually led to the penthouse.