does anyone really hack anymore?

[erehwon]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

I really like pork...

[h3adrush]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

if you had to ask, you obviously didn't know

'real gangsters don't flex nuts, 'cause real gangsters know they got 'em'

[Mcgruff]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Pork Hacking _IS_ the new face of hacking.

[SlackJaw]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

An excellent definition!

I'm in my 40's and my first exposure to hacking was a totally different definition.

I played guitar in a 70's type funk band as the token white dude. Since the guitar had no real meaning except to bang out a three chord rhythm variation, over, and over, and over, and over...it was called hacking. However, it had to be very precise and timed perfectly else it ending up sounding like pron music's ugly cousin.

But "War Games" changed my life and I'm now the leet mofo you have the pleasure of experiencing...

Dudes, I'm really bored tonight...

[goathead]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Ive abstained from all questionable behavior since 8th grade... and my Ace1000... /sigh Hard storage would have been nice...

And I do remember debugging programs on cards... hellish.

[Scape_Goat]

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... and people think angelina jolie is hot .. psssh Mr Whedon totally got that one right.

What's wrong wit angelina jolie?

[TheCotMan]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

What's wrong wit angelina jolie?

Scientists from E! Are meeting at an international summit to find out.

Seriously though, the context suggest a comparison of female characters as hackers in fictional film/tv and citation of them with ranking as sexually attractive based on character skills, traits, and knowledge combined with the physical attributes of female actors that play them.

For a similar example in the forums, see Chuck Norris as a Texas Ranger in Texas Ranger vs. Richard Dean Anderson as Colonel Jack O'Neill from Stargate SG1-- though sexiness is not of concern in that discussion, so much as which one could kick the other's ass.

[bascule]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

What's wrong wit angelina jolie?

She's no Theora:

[erehwon]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Pork Hacking _IS_ the new face of hacking.

You got that right, I was at the new Whole Foods scoping out the upwardly mobile milfs and right there next to the meat counter is this island resturant where you can enjoy all sorts of beef all marinated and ready to grill. But you should have seen the pulled pork they had, $6.99 a pound and worth every penny!

This guy was eleet, his skill and expertise in hacking this pulled pork, it was like nothing I have ever seen... I am still in awe.

[Turnip]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Well i still hack but you know, you just have to take it easy and not hack everything anymore, its more of a secret... My friend has a federal offense... its not something that people let go anymore.

[Thorn]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Well i still hack but you know, you just have to take it easy and not hack everything anymore, its more of a secret... My friend has a federal offense... its not something that people let go anymore.

That's because, like a lot of people, you are obviously confusing hacking with criminal activity.

Frankly, I deeply resent the implication that hacking equals criminal activity, and I resent that people such as yourself consider your criminal actions to be hacking. That only enforces the stereotype of Hacker = Criminal. As an active hacker over 35 years, I have never committed a criminal act. In my opinion, people who do get caught perpetuating such crimes deserve everything that they get. In fact, I'd be a lot happier with longer, more stringent sentences for such crimes. The phrase "Throw away the key" certainly comes to mind.

[soulja_blackros]

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Im only 18 from TN i've only had computer access since around the 7th grade im not to savvy but i know what im doing, the only hacking i've ever done was taking my nintendo apart cause it didnt work but they were easy to repair so i started fixing my friends broken systems N64, playstation simple solder job thats what normally went wrong wires coming undone it didnt matter i liked working with my hands. The only hacking i do now is for the navy, Im a hospital corpsman about to go on another deployment w/ the marines.

[soulja_blackros]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

Im only 18 from TN i've only had computer access since around the 7th grade i'm not to savvy but I know what i'm doing, the only hacking i've ever done was taking my nintendo apart cause it didnt work but they were easy to repair so I started fixing my friends broken systems N64, playstation simple solder job thats what normally went wrong wires coming undone stuff of that nature it didnt matter I liked working with my hands. The only hacking I do now is for the navy, i'm a hospital corpsman i patch the marines up when they get hurt i'm about to go on another deployment with the marines in fact it'll be fun kind of well not really but uncle sam can't tax combat pay so there's an upside to it, but like you were saying hacking doesn't equal criminal but doing stupid things usually does especially when you do it for bragging rights cause you scream noob much like how i must sound because i don't know very much about the subject but all I have to say is what my mom always told me if you know its wrong don't do it. oh shoot when i did the quick reply my previous message didn't show up so i retyped everything sorry guys i didn't mean to reply to my own message I apologize it's my fault.

[Greyhatter]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

There are those who tinker and those who crack. I think perhaps there will always be newbees that do not understand their own technology and it's protective features or lack there of. The last Windows firewall for XP for example fails inbound protection on two ports one of which is port 80. Windows browser is full of lovely buggie holes so it also can be exploited and once inside past the browser Windows firewall has no outbound protection. As long as security tools are poorly made there will be a crack for a hack... As long as there are newbees there will be lurkers in wait. Cracking will never vanish unless security becomes perfect and we all are 100% savvy and even then no technology is perfect.

[Mother]

Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

To the excellent definition of what is a hacker, I would humbly add: "Someone who cannot stay put, who cannot sit his ass on the same chair for long, who is always looking for something new to investigate".

One example that came to mind when I started reading this thread was the guys from L0pht - their site used to be a pretty good reference on pager tinkering, digital radio modes, and a ton of other stuff. They then moved on and became @stake, pushing LC and other nice tools (but basically became software-only, no trace of the "good old days"). Eventually they got bought by Symantec. Notice a pattern? Tinker for fun and beer, move on to tinker to pay bills, and finally sell the tinkershop for some good money.

Is there anything wrong with this? IMHO not really, it's the natural progression of life. I wonder how many of the folks you see at DC sporting tattoos and enough "jewelry" pierced on their bodies to make a DHS screener faint, will look like than when they are past 40? Same with everything else - people move on.

How many of you have toyed with the same stuff for more than a few years? The early hardcore wardrivers, for example, do we really do it with the same passion or frequency as in 2002-2004? Probably not, but that hasn't stopped us from tinkering with plenty of other stuff.

On the topic of generations, I agree with converge, I also hope the retardness comes in cycles.

Cheers,

Mother

PS Thorn: punchcards? The whitness of your hair just went up a couple of notches ;)