The Madigan Incident

[not5150]

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You can add eweek and photo-meister eecue to the mix. I counted at least three goons in the crowd.

The HD video (250 mb) is crystal clear. Props to the guy to took it. I'm guessing you were the one who went straight for the license plate after I photographed it.

Next time I'll carry two cameras. I had to stand a few feet back because the minimum focus distance on my lens was 4.5 feet. Flea did an awesome job getting a very 'in your face" shot while she got into the car.

[Diesel]

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For the love of...did ANYONE get a 'down blouse' in all of that photo snapping?

Diesel

[erehwon]

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Speaking of which... There's a set of photos I'd like to draw folks' attention to here. Specifically, I'd like people to pay attention to the size and composition of the 'mob'. Looking at this set, there are maybe 30 people there - at least four of them that I can see are goons (and I know that there was at least one more off-camera), and a good chunk of the people videotaping and/or taking her photograph are wearing press badges. She was not in any physical danger (in fact, she was probably in the single safest place she could be at that particular moment), and her facial expressions bear this out. Hell, she even had time to look over her shoulder before backing out of her parking space, and from what I recall of the video she drove out quite normally. Someone in fear of their life would not waste time with driving etiquette; hell, I'd be flooring it and aiming for anyone that got in my way if I were in physical danger.

Looking at that series of photos and videos, I can see reporters from The Washington Post, the San Jose Mercury News, TG Daily, The Inquirer, The Register, but sadly no one from InfoSec News.

[Xodia]

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Kudos to whoever shot the video on Youtube.

It should be uploaded to "I-caught" (ABC new's new show with online videos). It would be hilarious to see an NBC reporter being outed on an ABC news program. :)

[astcell]

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We should have mirrored the Dateline website internally, set up DNS to find it when on the DC network, then hack it to pieces right in front of the reporter.

We missed a perfect use for pool2girl!

[not5150]

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You guys are on to something... while in the press room, the reporters and goons discussed what was probably happening behind the scenes with Dateline. Some of us believe that Madigan might not have had approval to do an actual story and was scoping things out. She could have been recording things so she could pitch a story.. so like "look at the cool footage I got at Defcon... can I do a story now?"

The general consensus was that Dateline would have sent much more manpower if they really wanted to get a story. A single person is probably working on their own and looking for future brownie points.

[theprez98]

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She has the same body language and facial expression that someone doing a "perp-walk" in front of the press has.

Unless you do the "Paris Hilton perp walk" which looked more like a fashion show.

[KinoEye]

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I have a feeling she was worried more about her career then her safety, because regardless of the circumstances that outed her (friendly dateline mole) she was given the opportunity to go undercover and blew it.

That's my read also. She's on her cell phone, probably talking with her producer - she looks stressed, stressed, stressed and very worried - not about her safety but about her job.

She has the same body language and facial expression that someone doing a "perp-walk" in front of the press has.

Of course all this is conjecture but I do not think at any point she was fearing for her life.

[Quiet]

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From what I saw, she was treated no differently than how the paparazzi treats celebrities.





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[bloofar]

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Speaking of which... There's a set of photos I'd like to draw folks' attention to here.

You're right; she does look a lot more collected in the photos than she does in the video. She looks more like she's thinking "fuckfuckfuckFUCK" in the pics. I don't think she looks scared for her life tho. On the other hand, I wouldn't like to have that many highly intelligent people pissed/bemused at me. The only difference between a crowd and a riot is the proper motivation.

If she when found out just stayed there and owned up to it, it would almost be a none issue. But when you run, guess what people will chase you as it makes you look even more guilty and stupid.

About the equivalent of yelling "FUCK ITS THE COPS!" when LEOs unexpectedly knock on your door (had a roommate who did that once... idiot).

I just had the thought, can they still make a show about this? Might she have enough footage to show some interviews and then show how Dateline was run out by a "mob" later? Put in the obligatory clip of a van blowing up.

Maybe. I've seen crappy segments put together with less video. No telling exactly how much she got (unless I missed a description of that). Wild speculation + stock footage + still shots + a few low-quality live clips = sensationalist article.

[xor]

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If she when found out just stayed there and owned up to it, it would almost be a none issue. But when you run, guess what people will chase you as it makes you look even more guilty and stupid.

She left there like people where going to tar and feather her. What's the worst that could have happened to her other than a humbling experience; and possibly her identity stolen, her credit ruined, her driver's license and registration revoked, and her utilities turned off :). Hackers are a peaceful group of people. If you are standing there with egg on your face, the best thing to do is just laugh. I believe even the worst situations can be turned around in to positive ones.

So instead of a negative story about hackers she could have turned it into a positive one. Then again that’s the trouble with a lot of the mainstream media, they are only interested in re-enforcing negative images.

xor

[xwred1]

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Well, I bet if everything had gone well for them at Defcon, it'd still be a few weeks for them to edit the footage and make a show about it.

[BlackOrchid]

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I watched dateline tonight. (with randomness of attention), and there is nothing. I don't expect this will be on a national show as it was already aired online enough to humiliate the show further.

I'm betting dateline is saying, "ignore this and it will go away." UUUMMMM again, they didn't do their research! They should learn that it will be talked about for YEARS.

Skroo, from my limited sources, I was told the story was suppose to be about feds who hire civilian hackers. I still don't have any evidence to this report so it's just hearsay for me.

[J3di]

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I just had the thought, can they still make a show about this? Might she have enough footage to show some interviews and then show how Dateline was run out by a "mob" later? Put in the obligatory clip of a van blowing up.

I was wondering if they were going to make any type of comment or statement on this at all. They've already been receiving a lot of bad press over the predator show. For them to try and spin this any other way than as a screwup on their part would ruin any creditability they may have left.

[xwred1]

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I just had the thought, can they still make a show about this? Might she have enough footage to show some interviews and then show how Dateline was run out by a "mob" later? Put in the obligatory clip of a van blowing up.