Shout Outs! / Thanks and Sorrys

[TheCotMan]

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heh i met that guy.. we had a nice little conversation about how it was nice to see other black people at defcon for once ;)

I think I met this guy on Sunday and explained his being dunk by other goons in the pool was a baptism of sorts that was required. Before that, when someone asked why he was wet, he expressed how wasn't really happy about having been tossed in the pool. After I explained the above, one of his friends came up and he was excited, as he explained how he was baptized by the goons. I guess he has a sense of humor when he can see things for what they are. :-)

[noid]

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heh i met that guy.. we had a nice little conversation about how it was nice to see other black people at defcon for once ;)

Well, with him and Maximus on the staff the goons are now as diversified as a McDonalds help wanted poster (although we need to get Priest back in the wheelchair and find a native American midget).

[converge]

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... and find a native American midget).

oooh, lemme know when that job posting hits, I'm PERFECT for that position.

[Vyrus]

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Well, with him and Maximus on the staff the goons are now as diversified as a McDonalds help wanted poster (although we need to get Priest back in the wheelchair and find a native American midget).

heh yea i didn't know he ended up making goon status, i ran into him day0, day2 the morning after the incident (to which he explained what happened and was telling me that he had to find the ppl who ran the thing an apologize), and just before closing ceremonies.

when i met him on day0 he walked up to me from behind and was looking at my key-chained lanyards from past defcons and commenting. he was asking me if i was going to con this year and was talking about how he had never seen another black person who was an active con member and not just there to be token. then i turned around and he saw my blackhat badge and just went "wow.. heh so there is more than 1 of us" :D

[noid]

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I've seen more than a few brothers walking around Defcon over the last few years. Besides, we already have our token black person, Czarina*. She's black AND sassy (that should goad her into posting).

*Czarina, please come back to DC, we miss you!

[HighWiz]

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I've seen more than a few brothers walking around Defcon over the last few years. Besides, we already have our token black person, Czarina*. She's black AND sassy (that should goad her into posting).

*Czarina, please come back to DC, we miss you!

Yea, Czarina is apparently too cool for DefCon now.

[P33V3]

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Shout Outs
DT - What can I say to my long lost brother who I've only seen one week a year for the past 15 years. Thanks for a 15th week I will only vaugely remember. Next year I think I'm bringing Defcon 1 Veteran challenge coins.
Banshee - from the OMG ponies to you, we enjoyed hanging out and sparking up some stogies with you.
Jackalope - Thanks for another great mix CD for my daughter.
Dead Addict - good to see you again brother thanks for the pixie stick.
Serpent - see you next year, (we've been doing this for too long).
Priest - thanks for the contact info for noid. Guess I'll be goonin' next year.
Wynn - Um, you keep getting more , uh, something every year.
Laz - keep pickin it, it'll eventually come free.
Dan K. Had a blast at Quarks good to see you again.
Pyro - sorry I only got to see you for a sec.
Del Chi - good running into you again.
Cal - glad I could help
Dez - Loved the pink hair this year.
FroCat - Work less, Drink More
Brother Sunshine - Always a blast. Looking forward to the talk next year.

Sorry to all those I missed.

Boos
Um to all the Noobs, randomly taking pictures of people you don't know without asking is just simply Bad Form. Very un-cool. You guys did way to much of it.

[Diesel]

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Boos
Um to all the Noobs, randomly taking pictures of people you don't know without asking is just simply Bad Form. Very un-cool. You guys did way to much of it.

While I completely understand what your getting at, DT himself has requested on the main page of Defcon15 post synapses that people take pictures to document the event:

"If you have pictures of this con (or any previous con) you'd like to share, please upload them to pics.defcon.org. We're trying to create a visual record of all the shows and your help is appreciated. Just create an account and start uploading pictures and videos!"

Taking pictures without someones consent is understandable, but a general shot of the talk rooms, etc how could you get approval from everyone in the room? The shot I took wasn't to capture any one person, etc. But to try and capture the event atmosphere for my own personal scrap book, like DT is suggesting. And that picture I was told immediately to get approval next time, so the Goons and Kenshoto guys were on the ball about it. In fact were decent about it, just warning me. Yes it seems like bad form, but if no pictures are wanted then they should be banned from entry.

Diesel

[TheCotMan]

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(About pictures at Defcon)
I've seen people get punched for taking pictures without permission.

When I took pictures, I tried my best to get permission from people to take their picture, and take pictures that would not include people looking at the camera, but some people will look at the camera when you say, "I'm taking a picture. If you don't want your face in it, please turn away." Does that mean they are giving permission? I'm not sure, so they get white-out.

It is also difficult to take pictures of contests or events of *just* the people that have consented to have their picture taken, as some contests are not set up against a wall.

All the pictures I posted on pics.defcon.org should have people that never gave me permission displayed with white-out blocks over their faces.

Most everyone at Defcon that I asked permission were totally fine with me taking their picture. People that declined to give me permission were NOT photographed by me, and though I was disappointed, respected their decision.

When I checked with the Ken Shoto people, they gave me permission to take pictures of the score board. When one of the vendors said their employees shouldn't be photographed, I asked if I could photograph the stuff they were selling, and they said yes-- after I finished, I showed them a review of what I snapped to help them feel a bit more at ease about what I did. At one of the contests, a person did not want to be photographed when I asked, so I made sure not to include them in pictures of their contest. (Sadly, I missed including some of the organizers, because they were on the wrong side of the table, and mixed with people who were not organizers... maybe next time.)

Taking (lots) of pictures at Defcon without upsetting people is a time consuming thing. I have more pictures and disk space used up shooting pictures at American Shooters and The Gun Store than all of Defcon.

Back to thread topic:
Thank yous:
Converge: Thanks for the tee shirt. It is great fun to wear and amused the X-Ray Technician. :-) Also, thanks for the Drunk-SMS, as that was fun to read and yet another thing to try to decipher. :-D
Everyone that gave me permission to photograph you: Yay! Without pictures of people, Defcon looks kind of boring.
Runnerup(rob) Hope you enjoyed Defcon, and had a great time. Will you be bringing High Wizard back next year?
meee: Thanks for taking me of "the list" -- That is not a place for anyone to be. I'd be wondering when, "it," was going to happen, and be even more cautious than normal.
Russ Thanks for permission to get in to snap setup of the contest area-- sorry I didn't show up on thursday. (Too many things to do, and too many delays killed the time I set aside for this.) Maybe next year :-)
Chris Thanks for permission to snap pictures of the vendor room setup on Thursday, but like the contest/event area, I had to skip this too. Yeah, I suck. I'd like to get pictures showing people some of the work that happens behind the scenes to prepare for Defcon and put them up on pics. Maybe next year.
valkyrie: Dang. You were quite the hyper little monkey at the HP party. Hi! Ohh Look! Bye! Heh heh. I think you introduced or spent time with nearly everyone in the room. What a way to be so welcoming of everyone that attended HP. :-) Oh yeah, "Goombah," forgives you. (heh heh.)

Now for a, "You suck!" comment:
People at this tee shirt booth ([pics=427]Here[/pics]) When I asked you for a 2X shirt, you gave me a 5X shirt. Huh? What? I may be a big guy, but I don't need to wear a mobile tent! Maybe you read it upside down and thought a "5" looked kind of like a "2" -- I don't care. I am stuck with a tent. Waaa. I blame Grifter. If he was at this booth, this wouldn't have happened.

Did I forget to mention you in one of these areas? Remind me. Send me a PM or something. My memory is not perfect, and the more I drink at Defcon, the worse it gets.

[Diesel]

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As much as I would love to have pictures of the event, next year I doubt I will even bring my camera. Like you said CotMan, it was just too hard to get them without upsetting people. I only ended up with like 6-7 pictures anyway. After that first incident in CTF, I learned very quickly to ask, and I did. To end this topic, the only reason I want pictures anyway is to capture the atmosphere since it was really a 'moving' experience being at DEFCON. I am sure others understand what I am talking about. Ok, done with this topic.

FYI. Vissago's pictures on Flickr are the best collection I have seen to date of DC15. Kudos.

Diesel

[staticblac]

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First I would like to thank the other teams that competed in the scavenger hunt. You made it a challenge, but most of all you guys made it fun

Scavenger hunt staff - Siviak, Londo, tacitus, and everyone else who put the hunt together. Thank you for taking the time out of your con to organize the contest and for making it a memory many won't forget.

Lockpick Village staff - Deviant_ollum, Mouse, and all other that helped put the presentation together and showed many people how to locksmith. ( A special thanks to meee for showing me how to pick handcuffs open, and to Deviant for his invaluable help to team Om which allowed us to take 1st in the scav hunt )

To the goon squad - For making this year's con a safe enjoyable place for all the attendee's and providing the manpower necessary to run the con, you all have made this years con better than ever and you all deserve a beer for the time and effort you put forth every year to make the con a special place for all. I would like to personally thank GM1, h3adrush, hackajar, teklord, and last but not least Grifter for there assistance in the Scavenger Hunt.

To team Om - Yamamushi, Skeltone Jack, Syntax, and Salem
To the good times at the parties and the bad times with vapor rub and a linebacker. I am proud to have lead the team to victory this year and to have shared the con experience with each and every one of you. To Team Om *cheers*

The hacker pimps, and ninja networks for throwing the two best parties of the con. Great work all around guys.

Any to everyone I missed for making the con a great experience.

[jur1st]

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When I asked you for a 2X shirt, you gave me a 5X shirt. Huh? What? I may be a big guy, but I don't need to wear a mobile tent! Maybe you read it upside down and thought a "5" looked kind of like a "2" -- I don't care.

Same thing happened to me last year with a different t-shirt vendor. Unfortunately this was also the shirt I brought home for the girlfriend. I didn't discover that they had given me a 4X instead of a large until the shirt appeared in my laundry. No wonder she never wore it and gave me a rather deathly stare when I gave it to her in the first place.

I was trying to give it to someone of 4X stature, but had no takers going into the awards ceremony. I left it in the dispatch office so I hope someone claimed it, and if not that it got thrown in the box of stuff for storage.

[Vyrus]

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heh, i on the other hand can never get a shirt that FITS me <_<

[Gadsden]

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Ok.. finally getting to my thank yous, etc. I would have done this much sooner, but things have been crazy for me the last few weeks.

Thanks to all my friends whom are like my family that could make it. You guys make this the highlight of my year. I can't mention everyone by name (and don't dare try.. too many good folks and I don't want to leave anyone out.)

JimH for picking us up and carting us all over Vegas. Thanks amigo!

Jackalope for putting up with me and my gooning.

All the Toxic BBQ folks. The TBBQ is always my favorite part of the con. It is the only time until the goon swim that I get to socialize, unwind, and chill out. This year was the best ever! I'm sorry that I could not do more to help organize things, hopefully me manning the grill for a couple hours was just repayment. :)

DT and all his helpers for putting this thing on.

Noid for all the work and effort he puts in to heading up the Security Goons.. you rule.

Archlight for being an awesome team lead. Thanks for having me on your team and keeping Gooning fun!

All my fellow Security Goons. This year was the best in the 4 years I have been on staff.

The guy giving the talk on Estonian cyberwar. You were a great sport with the guys being jerks towards you and took it in stride. You

All the folks that paid the "Goon Drink Tax". Thanks for being a good sport and sharing your booze.. especially to the guy with the keg of homemade cider that put up with a horde of us That was awesome!

The Hacker Pimps and Ninjas for having their parties. You guys outdo yourselves every year and never fail to put on a great party!

The Penthouse bunch for providing a great place to chill. Great seeing you all!

Everyone that offered their beer, food, and friendship.

Saving the best for last.. Deviant. My brother, thanks for giving me your "Don't Tread on Me" flag. It is rare in ones life that someone gives you something that you will will want to hold on to until your dying day... you gave me just that. If I ever have kids, they will inherit it along with the story of what it means and the great guy that gave it to me. You 0wn.

The "Asshat Award" goes to the guys heckling the speaker on the Estonian issues. Really.. way to look retarded. Shouting loudly and disrupting things for others does nothing but make you look like jackasses. If you had a problem with the speaker don't you think it would have made him look worse to present an intelligent counterpoint and prove him wrong instead of screaming "Russia" at the top of your lungs? Tards.

And the "Douchebag Award" goes to the kid asking for people's badges then getting bitchy with folks if they did not give them to you. Wanker.

[Deviant Ollam]

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Saving the best for last.. Deviant. My brother, thanks for giving me your "Don't Tread on Me" flag. It is rare in ones life that someone gives you something that you will will want to hold on to until your dying day...

awe... *single tear*

such kind words, man. you are my brother, and it pains me that defcon seems to be the only time during the year that we get to hang out. i had no idea just how much you loved that Gadsden flag until Jackalope mentioned your reaction to me later. it just struck me as something you deserved... you personify the mentality of independence and self-sufficiency enough to have your photo next to "liberty" in the dictionary. it just seemed fitting, hence i gave it without a second thought. and besides, i owned two of them... so i still have the other one in my office.

(that's the new office, btw. i'm in the school's basement... i fucking love having a basement room in a wicked-old building like this. it's like i've been sorted into Slytherin House or something. the red stain i put sprayed up in the rafters is my favorite part due to the surprise it gave the administration, heh.)

"The totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do: they cannot give the factory-worker a rifle and tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage, is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell

is this a new sig file? i don't recall seeing it before. actually, i don't recall seeing it under your posts or in print... from what work does it derive, do you know? ah, nevermind... while posting a quick google revealed that it's an often mis-attributed quote that many folk thought appeared in an article of his in the Tribune but actually was first seen in an article he wrote for The Evening Standard on 1941/01/08. answered me' own question, i did.

a fine quote in any context, i'd say.