Pay to park?

[Tacitus]

When walking around the Riviera, we noticed they have signs like this (http://23b.org/gallery/tacitus_defcon14recon/aal?full=1) saying $20 for parking for non hotel guests et. al. There seems to be a few of these signs and appropriate traffic control devices in the area. This goes against the "free parking because it is Vegas" logic but this still begs the question- will non-hotel guest con-goers be charged for parking?

[skroo]

will non-hotel guest con-goers be charged for parking?

If they are, there really isn't much stopping them from parking at another casino with free parking and walking a block or two. Was this in the valet or self-park area, by the way?

[Tacitus]

If they are, there really isn't much stopping them from parking at another casino with free parking and walking a block or two. Was this in the valet or self-park area, by the way?


Corner of one of the self-park structures, closest to the convention area

[skroo]

Corner of one of the self-park structures, closest to the convention area

*Shrug* well, ya got me. I live in LA, so dodging paid parking by walking a block or two is a part of life for me. Can't remember ever being charged for self-parking at any casino, though. I suspect this may be a CYA move on the casino's behalf to stop people suing when they tow abandoned or broken down cars, though.

[Tacitus]

*Shrug* well, ya got me. I live in LA, so dodging paid parking by walking a block or two is a part of life for me. Can't remember ever being charged for self-parking at any casino, though. I suspect this may be a CYA move on the casino's behalf to stop people suing when they tow abandoned or broken down cars, though.


It was not displayed- just in a corner as a sign they roll out at certain times. Just thought this should be in the DC14 FAQ if it will be a extra possible charge.

[renderman]

Most hotels really don't care. I think those signs are for use when they have a convention or something they know will draw a large crowd. Charging for non-guest parking adds to the revenue stream and keeps paying guests happy (and free parking during the even might be seen as a perk to staying at the hotel).

I can't honestly say I've ever been charged for parking at a vegas hotel. They don't want to do anything to dissuade people from coming in and spending money. I would'nt park there for a week unattended though...

Now the airport on the otherhand will charge you out the ass...

[astcell]

I once parked in one of those parking lots while waiting for someone and the parking attendant wanted money from me on the spot. Seems Vegas does have it's seedy section.

[TheCotMan]

I can't honestly say I've ever been charged for parking at a vegas hotel.

When I went to a downtown hotel/casino as a non-paying-guest, (Frontier? 4 Queens? Over around there IIRC) I parked in a parking structure that was "free" if validated.
Validation only required going to a desk to get someone to stamp a card, but if you did not do this, it was not free.

Also, added tacitus statement on risk for no free parking to the unofficial expected frequently asked questions (faq) (http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=6479).

[renderman]

Ah, I had not considered non-strip hotels. Downtown hotels I can see doing that, but not the Riviera (and other 'strip' hotels).

To clarify my statement; I've never seen a *Strip* hotel charge for parking

[Strom Carlson]

I've parked many times in the Riviera's self-parking structure. I've never had to pay a cent for it.

[mikey_ucod]

:doubt: as a vegas resdent , ive never paid for parkin at the free parkin lots. and if u dont like to loook for parkin much do as i do and vale park, then u have no problem wif the parkin. and circus, circus is a huge casino nex to the revera
cant wait for the con

[skroo]

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Don't. Just don't. You clearly speak English, so you have no excuse for not using it correctly. This SMS-speak bullshit does not fly around here (check some other threads if you don't believe me), and is not tolerated. Hell, there's even a section in The Rules (http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=2855) covering this, which, had you read them, you'd be aware of:

5. Abbreviated English, ‘SMS’-speak, or ‘leet-speak
This is a forum full of real live people who interact with each other as normal people should. Do not treat posts on this forum like the text messages you send on your phone. The official language on this board is English. If you want to be taken seriously you need to communicate clearly. Now, some of our users aren’t native English speakers. This is fine. If you don’t speak English, do your best and people will help you. The people this section is directed to are the people that make posts like ‘ne1 evr heer ov a hack 2 break teh windoze? LOL’. Its embarrassing when users from eastern Europe come here and speak better English than 16 year old High School students from Illinois. Also, how you type is your only way to put any sort of personality into your posts. ‘if u type lik diz’ you are basically saying ‘I am dumb, please do not pay any attention to me, in fact please ban me as soon as possible since I bring nothing to the table’. If you type like a big boy, you will be treated like one. Oh, and contrary to popular beliefs AlTeRnAtInG CaPs are not the sure way to fame.

It pisses me off that people can't type the two extra characters required to properly complete the word 'you'. Oh, and there's no 'f' in the word 'with'. You're not on a baudot teletype; waste the bandwidth for the sake of not making yourself look like a moron.

[allentrace]

:doubt: as a vegas resdent , ive never paid for parkin at the free parkin lots. and if u dont like to loook for parkin much do as i do and vale park, then u have no problem wif the parkin. and circus, circus is a huge casino nex to the revera
cant wait for the con

Don't. Just don't. You clearly speak English, so you have no excuse for not using it correctly.

Clearly he speaks the English prevalent in high schools these days. For further reference I direct anyone to myspace.com where every high school kid has a voice... kind of makes me wish we dealt in selective breeding.

[Strom Carlson]

Clearly he speaks the English prevalent in high schools these days. For further reference I direct anyone to myspace.com where every high school kid has a voice... kind of makes me wish we dealt in selective breeding.

More disturbing than the lack of anything resembling English is the lack of anything resembling legibility. Blue text on a blue image background with a million JPEGs and animated GIFs scattered bloody everywhere for no apparent reason whatsoever.

I recall someone linking me to their page, to which I responded "Oh, so THAT'S what happens when teletubbies explode!"

That person stopped talking to me after I said that :)

[Second]

Clearly he speaks the English prevalent in high schools these days. For further reference I direct anyone to myspace.com where every high school kid has a voice... kind of makes me wish we dealt in selective breeding.

What I find the most amusing is when clearly under-age boys and girls post pictures of themselves consuming alcohol and smoking marijuana to be cool and then never see it coming when they get in trouble. :cry:

[[Syntax]]

The school district here pretty much hates myspace.com. I believe earlier this year an instructor kicked a cheerleader off a highschool team for posting tales of her sexual rendezvous.

More recently a school of 3000 had only a few hundred students show up for class after a columbine style rumor was posted.
News Story (http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=569F4519-73E9-4810-B895-5C2336D6171C)


Anyhow.. back on topic.. Im wondering with the parking being open to anyone.. if the place is going to fill up. This year should be interesting.

[Deviant Ollam]

']I believe earlier this year an instructor kicked a cheerleader off a highschool team for posting tales of her sexual rendezvous.oh for the love of pete, that's horseshit. i hate myspace as much as the next guy, but what i hate even more is when ANY institution (school/work/government/etc) thinks they have a right to exercise control over what a person does with their own private life.

was this cheerleader posting stories about sex that occurred inside of the school? was she making the posts from school computers? if not then it's none of the school's goddamn business. it's like a town in my area where the police department and the school district work in cahoots with each other... anytime an under-age party is broken up by the cops, all the names are taken down and then given to the principal. the kids who get caugh partying on weekends not only have to deal with the criminal penalties (and of course their parents' own punishment) but then get suspensions or other disciplinary action once they show up at school on monday, as well. ridiculous, i think.

ok, rant over. we now return you to your regularly-scheduled thread.

[enigma]

oh for the love of pete, that's horseshit. i hate myspace as much as the next guy, but what i hate even more is when ANY institution (school/work/government/etc) thinks they have a right to exercise control over what a person does with their own private life.

was this cheerleader posting stories about sex that occurred inside of the school? was she making the posts from school computers? if not then it's none of the school's goddamn business. it's like a town in my area where the police department and the school district work in cahoots with each other... anytime an under-age party is broken up by the cops, all the names are taken down and then given to the principal. the kids who get caugh partying on weekends not only have to deal with the criminal penalties (and of course their parents' own punishment) but then get suspensions or other disciplinary action once they show up at school on monday, as well. ridiculous, i think.

ok, rant over. we now return you to your regularly-scheduled thread.

I'm quite sure that students can't be suspended for such an offense. They should have taken it to the court, I would...

[[Syntax]]

Well I didnt find the instance of the chearleader locally..
But heres a very similar story..
(http://www.newhampshire.com/articles/showularticle.cfm?id=62829)
Freshman Bryana Ruest said her mother made her delete the account after her cousin was kicked off the Salem High School cheerleading team when photos of team members drinking alcohol went public last month.

Aparrently its a common thing going on.

[skroo]

']Aparrently its a common thing going on.

"Videotaping this crime spree is the best idea we ever had!"

Seriously, as much as I deplore the administration of these schools for acting the way they are towards the students, the students deserve what they're getting. Not so much for what they're doing, but for being fucking stupid enough to post the details of their wacky hijinks on the Internet where ANYONE AND THEIR DOG CAN READ IT.

So, bets on how long it is before someone who has 'cunningly' flipped their account to friends-only gets sold out by one of their friends handing over printouts? 'Janie called me a hobag skank, so I'm giving Principal McVicker hardcopy of the part of her Livejournal where she talks about being sucking off the entire football team in the cafeteria while drunk!'

Fucking hell. Grade-A morons, all of them.

[Tacitus]

Looks like the Riviera and others do end up charging for parking- at least for CES: http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/travel/taxi.asp Glad they won't be charging defcon attendees