Stuff you are planning to do in Vegas before or after DC15... [Archive]

Deviant Ollam

05-05-2007, 08:33 AM

I'm looking to see Blue Man Group, and go to a shooting range. I may go see Penn and Teller too.all three of those are on my list, actually. i heard that if you go rather early to the P&T show at the Rio you can sometimes get into the house before they begin officially and Penn will tend to be just chilling onstage, jamming a bit with his bass etc. You can hang out with P&T and just rap with them about anything, or have them sign/defile any religious liturgy that you present to them for an autograph.

as for shooting, for many years now we've been organizing get-togethers are one of vegas' two well-known ranges that rent Class-III weapons. maybe we can coordinate a time to get a group again this year. (no offense to anyone, but chances are that such a group -- at least, any group of which i'm an organizing element -- will consist almost exclusively of people i've met in person, not just on the forums, for whom i can solidly vouch for non-asshat status. i just don't need to be anywhere near a firing line with someone holding an AK in full rock-and-roll mode unless i've gotten to know them first)

i'm in town wednesday, how 'bout you?

theprez98

05-05-2007, 10:04 AM

as for shooting, for many years now we've been organizing get-togethers are one of vegas' two well-known ranges that rent Class-III weapons. maybe we can coordinate a time to get a group again this year. (no offense to anyone, but chances are that such a group -- at least, any group of which i'm an organizing element -- will consist almost exclusively of people i've met in person, not just on the forums, for whom i can solidly vouch for non-asshat status. i just don't need to be anywhere near a firing line with someone holding an AK in full rock-and-roll mode unless i've gotten to know them first)

i'm in town wednesday, how 'bout you?
I don't get into town until Thursday morning, but if you're planning on going to the range anytime after that, I'm in. Having already been on the wrong end of someone's AK-47, I hope to qualify for non-asshat status:wink:

I hear Thorn is trying to visit the latest taping of his favorite show, CSI... :smile:

Thorn

05-05-2007, 10:27 AM

I hear Thorn is trying to visit the latest taping of his favorite show, CSI... :smile:Which end of that AK did you like being on again? :tongue:

I'll be in about my usual time, 2PM on Thursday. I'd be interested in any Thursday PM activities.

LosT

05-05-2007, 10:29 AM

Saw Penn & Teller last year- even juggled with Penn, and have pics/videos of it- great show.

Will get in Wednesday morning- will be up for anything-

LosT

Sam Shazaam

05-05-2007, 12:00 PM

TheCotMan

05-05-2007, 05:49 PM

all three of those are on my list, actually. i heard that if you go rather early to the P&T show at the Rio you can sometimes get into the house before they begin officially and Penn will tend to be just chilling onstage, jamming a bit with his bass etc. You can hang out with P&T and just rap with them about anything, or have them sign/defile any religious liturgy that you present to them for an autograph.
When I went to see P&T 2 or 3 years ago, they invited people up on stage to examine and inspect the elements of their magic tricks to see what they could find. I went up for that and looked at them and played with them. They had a really good show on, of all things, politics and freedom of speech doing some things that might be controversial, but likely in-line with many of the thoughts of people on these forums. (No more details that than-- sorry.)

as for shooting, for many years now we've been organizing get-togethers are one of vegas' two well-known ranges that rent Class-III weapons. maybe we can coordinate a time to get a group again this year. (no offense to anyone, but chances are that such a group -- at least, any group of which i'm an organizing element -- will consist almost exclusively of people i've met in person, not just on the forums, for whom i can solidly vouch for non-asshat status. i just don't need to be anywhere near a firing line with someone holding an AK in full rock-and-roll mode unless i've gotten to know them first)

i'm in town wednesday, how 'bout you?
I am arriving Monday with a buddy of mine from Europe. He is more into firearms than me, so I would have to check with him on the schedule, but I'm guessing that he would be fine with this. (I'll vouch for this guy. I've known him for over 8 years, and the restrictions in many European countries for Gun ownership require being responsible and members of Gun Clubs with lots of experience on ranges before advancing to higher caliber weapons.) If you would prefer not to include him, I totally understand, and we can go on our own. If you are going to the same range as us, check the web, as they have had coupons for like $5, $10, or $15 off when you pay more than $100. [I just checked. it looks like $5 off the rental of machine guns.]

I've got my Blue Man group tickets now. We have Orchestra Seating in the block closest to the stage. The Poncho seats looks way to close for Blue Man-- we would end up missing the big picture. It looks like the online registration allows for kind-of seeing where your seats might be before you buy them. It looks like we will be near the front and center of Orchestra seats-- advantage to getting seats early.

We will have a car the full week, so if we go, we will have room to bring 2 more in your group if they don't have a car, assuming we go on the same day.

I also have a minivan scheduled for rental again on Thursday for the TBBQ-- Hopefully I'll get one as nice as last time, which doesn't beep when overloaded. :-)

Thursday is booked up for me. In the morning I pickup the van, then I have a small group that I will be taking to the .......... shop around 9:30am or 10am so I can be back in time for the TBBQ food roundup, which I'm guessing will to start at around 11:00am, noon, or 1:00pm. Then I'll likely be on-site at the TBBQ until late in the eve. (I'll only be doing one trip to the TBBQ this year, unlike last year with 2 trips there and 2 trips back.)

So Wed might work with us, but I'll have to check with my buddy.

BTW, GM1's Sushiscon was on Wed night last year, and Hackajar's Vegas 2.0 Summit has been on Thursday nights as well as QC (if I recall correctly-- though this may have moved to Friday night.)

Z^2

05-05-2007, 07:53 PM

I'd be in for some archery if someone from around the area knows of a good range and other people were up for it too (My shot sucks, but I love it anyway). I have no idea what my time-scale is because I haven't started the summer job yet, but I do have all of that Friday off for sure, so I'll probably be flying in Thursday afternoon/evening...I should work on getting Monday off too.

cjunky

05-06-2007, 07:54 AM

not sure when we will hit vegas as ive decided to rent a large black suv to cruise around LA before wandering slowly towards vegas annoying locals as we go. Seemed like the best plan to slowly reintroduce alcohol back into my system before the fun starts.

Once in vegas I suspect that shooting will definately be on the agenda. i hear one of those afore-mentione destablishments has had a complete overhaul. Im glad becuase last time we went some of their toys were in a bad enough state to jam.

not sure if that will happen pre or post con though.

P&T sounds like a good plan. Problem is in the decade or so (wow that makes me feel old.) that ive been visiting vegas ive never managed to visit a show. Something always comes up. either pre-con hassle, during con madness or post con cleanup always gets in the way.

Cj

TheCotMan

05-06-2007, 08:02 AM

I intend to take time to see the Fremont Street Experience downtown. I plan on taking the bus downtown one evening.

Please post info if the shooting range idea comes together. I was in attendance at the Defcon shoots in past years and would be interested if some one can find another place to hold this.

I'd be in for some archery if someone from around the area knows of a good range and other people were up for it too (My shot sucks, but I love it anyway). I have no idea what my time-scale is because I haven't started the summer job yet, but I do have all of that Friday off for sure, so I'll probably be flying in Thursday afternoon/evening...I should work on getting Monday off too.

The place I am thinking of is likely the same place Deviant is thinking of, and is a place with a range, rangemasters and opportunity to rent automatic weapons.

It is not big enough for the size of crowds that attended DC Shoots.

Something that won't be ready this year, but is supposedly going to break ground at the end of this year is:
http://www.co.clark.nv.us/parks/Shooting_Park.htm

Here is a rough location of the park by google maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.863178,66.884766&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=36.362693,-115.239716&spn=0.073265,0.130634&t=h&z=13&om=1) showing what I think is N. Decator Blvd (far right, North to south) and Moccasin Road (bottom, east to west) as seen in this image from the page above:
http://www.co.clark.nv.us/parks/ShootingPark/SitePlan07.jpg

(If you look here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.863178,66.884766&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=36.362693,-115.239716&spn=0.073265,0.130634&t=h&z=13&om=1) then you can look mostly south from that location and find Las Vegas.)

They plan to break ground in October of the year and be open for business Early Summer 2008.

The original plan was to include space for archery, and firearms. I don't know all of the details, and plans do change from bulletin to bulletin.

IIRC, on maps, you can find it North West of where we are, and would probably be a 30 minute to 1 hour drive from our present hotel.

Deviant Ollam

05-06-2007, 11:27 AM

They had a really good show on, of all things, politics and freedom of speech doing some things that might be controversial, but likely in-line with many of the thoughts of people on these forums. (No more details that than-- sorry.)if anyone used to watch The West Wing (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200276) you would have seen at least one of the segments of their routine... a scene in the very beginning of Season 6, Episode 8 entitled "In The Room" features Penn and Teller performing at the birthday party of the President's youngest daughter. In a wonderful display of flagrant disregard for the political fallout, they use the opportunity of having the White House as a venue to make a point about freedom of speech. I tossed a video clip (http://deviating.net/stuff/Penn_and_Teller_flag_trick.avi) [9MB XviD] of it online if people want to know more (i'm joining TheCotMan with respect to not going into detail right here)

I am arriving Monday with a buddy of mine from Europe. ... I'll vouch for this guy.you both would be more than welcome. i've met you firsthand and you are alright in my book... not just because you let me borrow that stopwatch, heh, but because you're a really together cat who has his head on straight.

TheCotMan

05-06-2007, 01:43 PM

you both would be more than welcome. i've met you firsthand and you are alright in my book... not just because you let me borrow that stopwatch, heh, but because you're a really together cat who has his head on straight.

Rockin, man. Thanks! I spoke with my buddy, and he's up for it too. I'll PM you some contact info you can use.

DJ Jackalope

05-06-2007, 03:44 PM

I am aiming to be in LV on Tuesday night... anything after that is unknown yet.

DaKahuna

05-06-2007, 06:26 PM

I hate that I will miss SushiCon this year. I am not arriving until about noon on Thursday. Did not want to miss out on the Toxic Bar-b-que and Deviant's exotic meat selections!

So, unless it is planned for 1 PM or later Thursday I guess I'll have to pass.

erehwon

05-06-2007, 07:51 PM

I should be in Monday or Tuesday for Blackhat, I'd like to do some sun worshipping, before or after Defcon, and not to completely thread-jack this, any plans for the Monday after Defcon to decompress before flying back?

Don't let their crappy and LOUD website turn you off to American Shooters (http://www.americanshooters.com/), its got my vote for Class III fun in Las Vegas. I have been disappointed too many times before at The Gun Store (http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/) to ever grace that place again with my pocketbook.

big chopper

05-06-2007, 08:10 PM

i heard that if you go rather early to the P&T show at the Rio you can sometimes get into the house before they begin officially and Penn will tend to be just chilling onstage, jamming a bit with his bass etc. You can hang out with P&T and just rap with them about anything, or have them sign/defile any religious liturgy that you present to them for an autograph.

And be sure to enjoy the ordinary boxes (Go to the show)
--BC,

d4rknrg

05-06-2007, 08:14 PM

I'm looking to see Blue Man Group, and go to a shooting range.
I may go see Penn and Teller too.
Visiting different buffets is also on my list.

The Atomic (bomb) Museum sounds cool too.

How about the rest of you? Have plans to do stuff before or after con, other than con-related things?

Got 12 days total Westside; hope to goto the Toxic BBQ apres jet-lag recovery & then plan to shoot-em-up somewhere but also really want to do a 15,000ft tandem skydive.
Also really want to check out the Atomic Testing Museum & The Attik nightclub for some banging thrash industrial-ism whilst salivating at some dusty sultry night maiden squeezed into latex :wink:
One's manager, for some Godforsaken reason, insists I see Celine Dion. I say not.

Then off to LA for 3 days to see a 'relly afore camping back @ McCarran awaiting one's return bird across the pond, what! :biggrin:

Deviant Ollam

05-06-2007, 08:47 PM

Please post info if the shooting range idea comes together. I was in attendance at the Defcon shoots in past years and would be interested if some one can find another place to hold this.i would really love to see something like the DC Shoots of old come together but i don't know if any suitable venue exists for that anymore. (places out in the desert, etc.)

we've all been just doing the indoor range thing the past few years... The Gun Store (http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com) has actually been very cool to us as long as they can tell you know your way around a weapon and aren't a fucktard. Their Class-III rentals (http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/rental.htm) are full rock and roll, they don't get on your case and ask for controlled bursts only.

DJ Jackalope

05-06-2007, 10:08 PM

Did not want to miss out on the Toxic Bar-b-que and Deviant's exotic meat selections!

Wait til we tell tell Deviant he has exotic meat!

cjunky

05-07-2007, 02:13 AM

american shooters is the place i was refering to. They have apparently overhauled all their class III weapon stock and replaced some of the more knackered toys.

About time becuase its been getting steadily worse there.

Postcon i will definately be hanging around for a while. We are booked to fly out of SFO the following weekend so we have a week to decompress in vegas, drive slowly to SFO and then maybe some warmdown partying in SFO.

Cj

cjunky

05-07-2007, 02:17 AM

i would really love to see something like the DC Shoots of old come together but i don't know if any suitable venue exists for that anymore. (places out in the desert, etc.)

The places exist, though you have to be a bit more carefull as civilisation is always getting closer.

The problem is every year the retard levels grew higher and higher. It got to the point where the retards were preventing the organisers from having a good time and at that point there is no point.

Maybe time for a new shoot to spring from the ashes, but someone would need to set the "you must be this tall to ride" filter sufficiently high so as to reject all the retards.

Cj

hackajar

05-07-2007, 02:43 AM

American Shooters is great if you want to "Shoot a machine-gun!" though, I'd hate to be the occupant in the condo's directly behind it now! It's a little hard to get to right now (and even during con) due to mass construction on that road currently.

We found a really great spot just outside of North Las Vegas that's away from people, and has some good shade. Drop me a line if you want the secret coordanates.

Deviant Ollam

05-07-2007, 06:22 AM

Wait til we tell tell Deviant he has exotic meat!heh, i may have to make a custom shirt just for the BBQ saying something along the lines of "DefCon... the place where everyone comes for a taste of my meat"

lil_freak

05-08-2007, 11:17 AM

I have to attend a few sessions at an other con before the start of Defcon. :frown:

But as always I will make the BBQ and other Thursday Night adventures.

Shinobi

05-24-2007, 07:41 PM

Got 12 days total Westside; hope to goto the Toxic BBQ apres jet-lag recovery & then plan to shoot-em-up somewhere but also really want to do a 15,000ft tandem skydive.
Also really want to check out the Atomic Testing Museum & The Attik nightclub for some banging thrash industrial-ism whilst salivating at some dusty sultry night maiden squeezed into latex :wink:
One's manager, for some Godforsaken reason, insists I see Celine Dion. I say not.

Then off to LA for 3 days to see a 'relly afore camping back @ McCarran awaiting one's return bird across the pond, what! :biggrin:

Talking of the Attik does anyone recommend any other nightclubs in Vegas that are worth a visit.

Clubs with large ammounts of gothic ladies would be a plus. However any nightclubs that don't catch fire after I visit them would be even better.

[Syntax]

05-29-2007, 03:32 AM

Well I get in on Tuesday, no idea what Im doing that day.. probably just chill out, maybe see a show or something.. Buy tickets from one of those half price vendors and just take luck of the draw.. Whatever they have available.

No idea Wed Either.. If sushicon is Wed, I'll probably attend that.. I had to choose between trying this grill I had heard about or JPop at Mandalay for sushi this last trip.

Thursday I dont know if Im going to be needed pre-bbq for any of the events yet, unless someone says something I'm going to leave the pre-bbq events to the pre-bbq event organizers. I'll be at the BBQ that night, then the summit after the BBQ.

Shinobi

05-29-2007, 04:29 AM

The Gun Store has actually been very cool to us as long as they can tell you know your way around a weapon and aren't a fucktard. Their Class-III rentals are full rock and roll, they don't get on your case and ask for controlled bursts only.

You say know your way around the gun? Unfortunatly us Brits only have access to shotguns and bolt-action rifles (Of which I have fired and owned). Not that I'm a fucktard and would find it impossible to load and arm a firearm I have not used but I assume you get some sort of basic instruction?

Also under Nevada law what do I need to produce to rent a firearm? Will a passport do?

falconred

05-29-2007, 11:47 PM

Talking of the Attik does anyone recommend any other nightclubs in Vegas that are worth a visit.

Clubs with large ammounts of gothic ladies would be a plus. However any nightclubs that don't catch fire after I visit them would be even better.

Krave (http://www.kravelasvegas.com/event9.htm) (the only major on-strip gay/alternative club) has a goth night on fridays, but you'll probably be too busy with con stuff that night, unless you can convince a group to go. I've never been myself, maybe hackajar or someone else knows what's up with the scene there.

doogman23

06-02-2007, 11:30 AM

Got 12 days total Westside; hope to goto the Toxic BBQ apres jet-lag recovery & then plan to shoot-em-up somewhere but also really want to do a 15,000ft tandem skydive.
Also really want to check out the Atomic Testing Museum & The Attik nightclub for some banging thrash industrial-ism whilst salivating at some dusty sultry night maiden squeezed into latex :wink:
One's manager, for some Godforsaken reason, insists I see Celine Dion. I say not.

Then off to LA for 3 days to see a 'relly afore camping back @ McCarran awaiting one's return bird across the pond, what! :biggrin:

We are thinking of doing the 15,000 tandem as well. You have an idea of which day you guys might do this? We should all go as a group...

doogman

Synapse

06-03-2007, 01:33 AM

I went to the blueman group last year, it was badass and definitely worth it.
My seats were high up in back, close to the end I had a blueman standing on the arms of my chair and my face live on the bigscreen. was crazy.

The 15,000 FT tandem jump is what interests me, I say I want to do it every year.
How often to you see something that says "reasons to jump" :D
http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/reasons.html

It states you are required to be 100% sober and alcohol free though, gonna need to plan that.

doogman23

06-03-2007, 12:27 PM

Yeah, it does look cool. I checked into some of the other places in the area, but Sky Dive Las Vegas looks like the best place.

Haha. No doubt! I am guessing we couldn't go straight from the Toxic BBQ to the plane! :frown:

I am going to keep looking into it, but I really want to do the jump. Opportunity Opportunity peeps.

doogman

Shinobi

06-04-2007, 12:44 AM

Doogman23 when are you thinking of going? I'm haning with D4rknrg for the trip.

doogman23

06-04-2007, 06:03 AM

Not sure just yet, I would like to do it at the end of the 'con though. I have one other going with me to the 'con so as soon as I find out if he is jumping to then I will have a better idea. If I have to squeeze it in the day of my flight back, I will.

Definitely keep you updated on what I am planning to do. Not sure if we can get group discounts or not but at this point I don't care. Haha. Not sure when I will get a chance like this again so....

doogman

Shinobi

06-04-2007, 11:12 AM

Same plan as us, were jumping at the end of the con! :cool:

Not in a ritualistic suicide way either! :tongue:

doogman23

06-04-2007, 12:30 PM

LOL! Thats good!! Me either!

I figure its a good way to close out the festivities. Plans could change though and move the time up. Lets try and keep coordinated on it though.

I would like to wear one of those "I eat n00bs!" T-shirts over my jumpsuit for the pics down. Hha. Or at the very least, a DEFCON swag wear to represent.

doogman

IrishMASMS

06-05-2007, 05:31 AM

Since I live in Sin City, most likely going to work, drinking, and the usual this place has to offer...

May I suggest the Pinball museum? A grand time playing tables from the 50's to today.

Shinobi

06-05-2007, 06:55 AM

lil_freak

06-05-2007, 10:14 AM

{QUOTE=IrishMASMS]Since I live in Sin City, most likely going to work, drinking, and the usual this place has to offer...[/QUOTE]

May I suggest the Pinball museum? A grand time playing tables from the 50's to today.

Sounds good where about is it?

Abby Normal suggested the same thing awhile back, see previous posts on subject here (http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=6918&highlight=pinball)

Shinobi

06-05-2007, 03:29 PM

Since I live in Sin City, most likely going to work, drinking, and the usual this place has to offer...

May I suggest the Pinball museum? A grand time playing tables from the 50's to today.

{QUOTE=IrishMASMS]Since I live in Sin City, most likely going to work, drinking, and the usual this place has to offer...

May I suggest the Pinball museum? A grand time playing tables from the 50's to today.

Abby Normal suggested the same thing awhile back, see previous posts on subject here (http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=6918&highlight=pinball)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link.

lowtec

06-09-2007, 08:31 PM

Shinobi

06-09-2007, 11:15 PM

Can we get group discounts?

doogman23

06-10-2007, 01:50 PM

Not sure yet. I am going to check with them this week and see. It looks like right now we would have roughly 5 peeps. The guy I am going with says he is NOT doing it.

Doogman

Shinobi

06-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Not sure yet. I am going to check with them this week and see. It looks like right now we would have roughly 5 peeps. The guy I am going with says he is NOT doing it.

Doogman

Well myself and D4rknrg are also both going to jump so count us in.

big chopper

06-10-2007, 10:45 PM

I get in on Wednesday, for one of the cheapest Vegas trips ever.
Wed, $19.00 at Binions
Thrs - Sun, First three nights comped at The Riviera, then only $45 for Sunday
Frequent Flier Miles for first-class air fare to/from Vegas (from an undisclosed city).

The whole thing (not including DEFCON admission, food/drink & games) for under $70.00.
I can't afford to stay home!
--bc,

doogman23

06-11-2007, 06:47 AM

OMG! Where do I sign!?!?! Haha. No doubt. I have to say that is cheap!! The haves.....and the have nots. hah.

doogman

doogman23

06-16-2007, 01:17 PM

Ok, I have a request in with SDLV to see if they offer group discounts. Problem is going to be scheduling. I am arriving Thurs and leaving Mon. Lowtec is thinking of doing the jump the first day, which is ok I guess. We will have to play by ear I guess until all flights are scheduled.

What about a DEF CON Jump Team shirt? :)

doogman

Shinobi

06-17-2007, 09:07 AM

What about a DEF CON Jump Team shirt? :)

Sounds good to me, make it so.....

Synapse

06-18-2007, 08:21 AM

I'd be interested in jumping as well! Not so sure about doing it at the end of the con though, I'd probably already be drained from lack of sleep and an excess of booze.

What about pre con.. Maybe before the Toxic BBQ? Start things off with a blast!

I also want to check out the pinball museum, have heard great things but didn't make it there last year..

Thats what I was thinking as well.
Jumping pre-con would be the way to go.
Once the con starts, and by time it ends...jumping would be far out of mind.. and you'll be so drained.. "maybe next year".

Jumping pre-con, is the blast off. What way to start then an adrenaline rush of free falling......
Raining hackers, defcon from above. (need a large banner to come down with!).
Once, on the ground i'd be pumped to get started.. not go home. ;p

doogman23

06-19-2007, 07:08 AM

I agree. Go from the jump to the Toxic BBQ and celebrate in prep for the weekend's festivities. At first I was thinking at the end, but the more I think of it at the beginning would be the way to go.

I still haven't heard from them on group rates, but most places you need 6 or more from what I have been able to dig up. Right now, I think we have 5 people interested including myself so...

My flight arrives at 1:45pm LV time. I need to check the available jump times, may have to head from there to the jump and then check in. haha.

doogman

Ps. "Raining hackers from above" could work for the t-shirts! good one!

enven

06-19-2007, 11:24 AM

Atomic Bomb Museum...Most definitely, then just roam around, I like taking photos of the city...thats about it..oh and eat, of course...

I'd have gone to blackhat, but I'll be missing it by a day...

Shinobi

06-19-2007, 01:15 PM

I'd have gone to blackhat, but I'll be missing it by a day...

Too expensive for me. I'll go to BH in Japan. I'm thinking of doing the jump on the first day, get it over with! :eek:

lowtec

06-19-2007, 01:21 PM

Deviant Ollam

06-19-2007, 01:45 PM

Maybe 'Defcon from above' as a slogan.. (play on 'death from above')something perhaps like this do you mean...

http://deviating.net/stuff/defconfromabove.gif

TheCotMan

06-19-2007, 01:55 PM

Can we get a new thread started maybe in the Contests & Events section for the jump?

I'm pretty excited about this now, I've never jumped before! Maybe 'Defcon from above' as a slogan.. (play on 'death from above'). Here's something that could be incorporated to the shirt
http://www.psywarrior.com/Deathfromabove.jpg

Also, what happens if we have more than 6 people jumping? Will everyone get a discount if they have to split up the group? I may be able to convince a friend to jump as well.

I'll add a subforum for this event if you can get it mentioned on the Defcon 15 list of contests or event pages:
http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-15/dc-15-events.html
http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-15/dc-15-events.html

Other than that, you can start a new thread:
http://forum.defcon.org/forumdisplay.php?f=95 (here)
Then if it is ever listed on the main dc15 page, the threads can be moved into a forum for this event/contest.

Additionally, I can prune this part of the discussion t a new thread in the official/unofficial contests not listed above. section of the contests/event page.

Let me know.

doogman23

06-19-2007, 02:49 PM

Has anyone heard of this that was at 14?

http://www.dcjump.com/

It doesn't say anything about 15 but....

Also, the logo above looks cool! I like it!

doogman

Synapse

06-20-2007, 09:33 AM

Maybe 'Defcon from above' as a slogan.. (play on 'death from above').

man, thats what I said above!
Defcon from above! ;p

something perhaps like this do you mean...

http://deviating.net/stuff/defconfromabove.gif

nice.

Synapse

06-20-2007, 09:51 AM

Has anyone heard of this that was at 14?

http://www.dcjump.com/
It doesn't say anything about 15 but.... doogman

Hmm, that looks a bit advanced and very private.
This thread from last year, stated it never happened at dc13 and there were questions if it would go on for dc14.
http://forum.defcon.org/showpost.php?p=79689&postcount=12

My defcon 13 book did have it listed, defcon 14 It doesn't look as if it was added
After a quick search, I found several mentions of it being an unofficial event. a lot of other threads looked like it was for indoor skydiving.
none of them looked to repeat after that year.

It would be good to know if it is already an event still, if not then maybe time to start a new one as a new group and continue to assemble whoever wants to do it this year and work it out from there.

Deviant Ollam

06-20-2007, 11:06 AM

nice.ah, just a little something i knocked together in photoshop in a couple of spare mintues. wasn't really giving it the proper polish and shine. just an idea of sorts for others to work with.

shrdlu

06-20-2007, 05:31 PM

Hmm, that looks a bit advanced and very private.
This thread from last year, stated it never happened at dc13 and there were questions if it would go on for dc14.
http://forum.defcon.org/showpost.php?p=79689&postcount=12

I wouldn't think of it as private. Vann Harl's a funny one, but don't let his oddness put you off.

My defcon 13 book did have it listed, defcon 14 It doesn't look as if it was added
After a quick search, I found several mentions of it being an unofficial event. a lot of other threads looked like it was for indoor skydiving.
none of them looked to repeat after that year.

I know absolutely nothing about what happened, specifically, other than that I know Vann Harl (the organizer, and also probably owner of the dcjump site). I had thought it was outdoor jumping, but perhaps not. At any rate, not everyone is on the Forums (I am only because it's easier to run a contest if at least one person monitors the forums).

It would be good to know if it is already an event still, if not then maybe time to start a new one as a new group and continue to assemble whoever wants to do it this year and work it out from there.

I'd suggest sending him an email. Maybe he'd be happy to change the site to announce it for you, maybe he'd want to go too. Here's his email:

Dr. Vann Harl <vann@atreus.org>

lowtec

06-20-2007, 06:57 PM

Oh sweet, I sent mail to an old address I found for vann at dcjump.. I'll send it to this current address.

Sounds like this is picking up speed.. any word from the skydive vegas people?

Synapse

06-20-2007, 11:48 PM

I'd suggest sending him an email. Maybe he'd be happy to change the site to announce it for you, maybe he'd want to go too. Here's his email:

Dr. Vann Harl <vann@atreus.org>

Yeah, his was outdoor.

Looks like lowtec already got the "jump" on emailing him ;D
So will wait on that.

Thanks for the information.

Shinobi

06-21-2007, 05:54 AM

Myself and D4rknrg are doing the jump before the Toxic BBQ.

It's better to do it before the con rather than after it.

doogman23

06-22-2007, 11:36 AM

No word from them yet. I guess it doesnt really matter anyway. The only problem I see at this point is going to be scheduling, but most have said jumping the first day before Toxic BBQ is the way to go. Only problem with that is my damn flight doesnt arrive until 1:45pm LV time. I will have to see what times are available to jump. We can also look into a few other jump companies too I guess.

Either way, I want to try and nail something down in the next two weeks so everyone knows what the deal is.

doogman

PS Keep us posted on the dcjump email....I just figured if it was already an event why double up. If not, we should get our own going and official. Who says Geeks aren't F'ing crazy! haha.

spahkle

06-22-2007, 02:30 PM

TheCotMan

06-22-2007, 03:30 PM

Getting into town on Monday night and staying through the following Tuesday. Only hard plans are the Toxic on Thursday. But you know me, I'm down for anything people want to do ... (Anyone for the Star Trek ride revisited [3 warp core req'd for entry]?)

3 Warp Core Breech? Could anyone keep down that much alcohol? If not, then I think I know of what the "Revisited" part of the title refers.

As for, "Quark's," I think you'd have to check with OP. She is around from time to time.

spahkle

06-22-2007, 03:40 PM

3 Warp Core Breech? Could anyone keep down that much alcohol? If not, then I think I know of what the "Revisited" part of the title refers.

As for, "Quark's," I think you'd have to check with OP. She is around from time to time.

The revisited would reference the Quark's time from a few years ago. After consuming multiple Warp Cores, a dozen of us went through the Star Trek ride (http://23b.org/gallery/DC12_spahkle/DSCN0261). A once in a lifetime experience that is worth trying to reproduce.

TheCotMan

06-22-2007, 03:43 PM

The revisited would reference the Quark's time from a few years ago. After consuming multiple Warp Cores, a dozen of us went through the Star Trek ride (http://23b.org/gallery/DC12_spahkle/DSCN0261). A once in a lifetime experience that is worth trying to reproduce.

Isn't that where one our members added to their sig:
"Never try to drink something larger than your head." ?

octalpus

06-25-2007, 08:48 PM

Isn't that where one our members added to their sig:
"Never try to drink something larger than your head." ?

Dude, you've got it all wrong. It was "If it's not larger than your head, it's not worth drinking."

As for Quark's, I should be around on our same BatTime for our same BatChannel, but I don't know yet what the new gig has in store for me. So with this in mind, I'm sad to say I can't really do much but show up (if and when they let me off my leash).

doogman23

06-29-2007, 11:39 AM

LVSD got back with me this AM. Below is what they said for anyone interested in jumping:

Thank you for contacting us. We apologize for the slight delay in responding. It seems our spam filter got a little of control. Anyway, we do offer group rates. For you group of 4-5 we can offer an additional $10 off our currently discounted rates (already $50 off) plus additional video package discounts if your group is interested in those. The discounts could total up to an additional $40 off per person. Also, we're now doing the 3 Mile Skydive 7 days a week for the same price as the 2 Mile Skydive because of our large turbine engine airplane (Caravan) that can take you all the way up to 15,000' and can carry up to 7 tandem jumpers at a time!! We're the only skydiving center in Nevada that can do that!! We recommend that you book sooner rather than later to ensure you reserve the day and time you want and the morning time is the best. You can book over the phone or online by going back to our website at www.skydivelasvegas.com and clicking on the "Reservations" link. Let us know if you have any other questions. We're looking forward to hearing from you.

There are others in the area too, but they all seem to be good so....

doogman

lowtec

06-29-2007, 10:10 PM

Great, sign me up!

I haven't heard back from anyone at dcjump..

alklloyd

07-01-2007, 05:03 PM

I'm getting in either tuesday or thursday; will decide in a couple of days; and leave the friday after con. If I get in tuesday I'll do Quark's and Sushicon. I've got front row seats for Penn and Teller monday, also plan to take in the TBBQ and Atomic Testing museum. Will leave the Rio for downtown tuesday and do some gambling the next few days. Hopefully I'll get to spend more time with the friends I've made over the last 5 years I've been doing this.

Al

Dallas

07-01-2007, 06:06 PM

Um, I need someone to take care of me as I plan on being wasted sometime between the Toxis BBQ, Hooch Wars, and the ahh..wait its coming to me.. the...ahh...crap what was it the e..oh yea...THE EFF Fundraiser!!!

After that I usually black out.

I'm getting in either tuesday or thursday; will decide in a couple of days; and leave the friday after con. If I get in tuesday I'll do Quark's and Sushicon. I've got front row seats for Penn and Teller monday, also plan to take in the TBBQ and Atomic Testing museum. Will leave the Rio for downtown tuesday and do some gambling the next few days. Hopefully I'll get to spend more time with the friends I've made over the last 5 years I've been doing this.

Al

astcell

07-02-2007, 08:11 AM

Al! See you soon!

doogman23

07-04-2007, 11:13 AM

Ok peeps. PM me with your arrival times and an idea of what time you think we should schedule the jump. Also, they offer 1, 2, 3 mile high so let me know your preferred as well. Can also email to doogman23@gmail.com.

doogman

FeloniousFish

07-04-2007, 09:44 PM

This is my first post.. so I hope not to sound like a noob.

:evil:There is a Godsmack concert at the Palms on the 3rd just in case anyone needed any other ideas...:evil:

IrishMASMS

07-06-2007, 03:15 AM

Talking of the Attik does anyone recommend any other nightclubs in Vegas that are worth a visit.

Clubs with large ammounts of gothic ladies would be a plus. However any nightclubs that don't catch fire after I visit them would be even better.

Attik is okish, depending on who is DJ/spining. The attendance is sparce with it being a Monday night, and most in the scene are service industry folk. Keep reading for more...

Krave (http://www.kravelasvegas.com/event9.htm) (the only major on-strip gay/alternative club) has a goth night on fridays, but you'll probably be too busy with con stuff that night, unless you can convince a group to go. I've never been myself, maybe hackajar or someone else knows what's up with the scene there.

You can skip the so called 'goth' night - the venue & such has taken a serious downturn in the last year. Good luck finding those goth gals, the real ones are hard to find in Vegas - the ones you do come across are the goth-in-a-box types. For the most part, Vegas attracts a certain genre of people – this is not one of them. We do not have the scenes like Seattle, DC, or Denver – different sort of town, people, and expectations. If you want, track me down at DEFCON and I can fill you in on the details – not something I can really post here.

Full disclosure: I used to be involved with the Friday night event at Krave. Due to unprofessionalism of the others involved, and my work putting me on the night shift I am no longer involved. Thankfully.

This is my first post.. so I hope not to sound like a noob.

:evil:There is a Godsmack concert at the Palms on the 3rd just in case anyone needed any other ideas...:evil:

Really? Psst: http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=8590
:biggrin:
Good luck getting tickets for that venue: some monkeyshines going on with tix sales.

theprez98

07-06-2007, 06:25 AM

There is a Godsmack concert at the Palms on the 3rd just in case anyone needed any other ideas...

Really? Psst: http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=8590
:biggrin:
Good luck getting tickets for that venue: some monkeyshines going on with tix sales.
Actually, in all fairness, he did post about the Godsmack concert a day before you posted the concert thread...not that it really matters. :wink:

FeloniousFish

07-06-2007, 07:09 AM

Really? Psst: http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=8590
:biggrin:
Good luck getting tickets for that venue: some monkeyshines going on with tix sales.[/QUOTE]

Tickets were not that hard... here is the link http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0A003ED2ED054D5E?artistid=725987&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60

Seats my not be on the stage.. but hey... it still a indoor concert!!! And lastly.. this is VEGAS!!!

Oh, theprez98, thanks for the stand up.

IrishMASMS

07-08-2007, 07:28 AM

Actually, in all fairness, he did post about the Godsmack concert a day before you posted the concert thread...not that it really matters. :wink:

For those that work a normal day shift lifestyle that might matter - for those of us that are night owls the days & nights all blend together at some point. Sort of how some DEFCON weekend experiences are...

Tickets were not that hard... here is the link http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0A003ED2ED054D5E?artistid=725987&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60

Seats my not be on the stage.. but hey... it still a indoor concert!!! And lastly.. this is VEGAS!!!

That is an interesting development - all the previous shows I have seen listed when tickets went on sale sold out in under 15 minutes; then went crazy with the scalpers & the ebayers. With the last (and first) time I went to a show there at the Pearl, casino security were coming down heard on people who were selling tickets - not even scalping, but folks that had an extra they were trying to get rid of. Perhaps the scalpers have gotten word that this is not a venue to work with, and hence the availability of tickets?

(SARCASM)
Naa, it is just because Godsmack sucks! :wink:
</SARCASM)

There is no way in hell I would use ticketmasterbator ever again; even if they were the only folks that had tickets available.

Ne0nRa1n

07-08-2007, 10:48 AM

I'd love to see Penn and Teller, but the prices for shows in Las Vegas are so expensive. (To me, at least.)

So, I am hoping to snag some half-priced tickets sometime during Blackhat. I really want to see Las Vegas as a 'tourist' this year since I've gone for so many years and haven't really been able to get to see anything other than the hotel the conference is at.

theprez98

07-08-2007, 10:54 AM

For those that work a normal day shift lifestyle that might matter - for those of us that are night owls the days & nights all blend together at some point. Sort of how some DEFCON weekend experiences are...
I spent a couple of months in Iraq working the night shift, primarily to stay out of the heat, but I know where you're coming from. :wink:

Deviant Ollam

07-08-2007, 11:57 AM

I really want to see Las Vegas as a 'tourist' this yearheh, maybe i'm very different than the average breed of cat, but i was overwhelmingly unimpressed with vegas when i did the tourist thing. I think it was my second time out there, DC9, and a bunch of us went up and saw the strip, walked through some casinos, and ate a meal at some expensive joint. (it was a fake "bistro" type of affair inside this huge mall/walkway deal that was entirely indoors. don't get me wrong, it was neat and all... but after that one time seeing things there i was totally done with the strip and all that nonsense and have stuck almost exclusively to the con hotel every year since, except for sushi night and the bbq and the gun ranges)

i think i felt very similar to how Arthur and Fenchurch did in So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish when they looked out over the San Fernando Valley. I realize at the time they were in southern california and not las vegas, but the sentiment is the same...

Late in the evening they drove through the Hollywood hills along Mulholland Drive and stopped to look out first over the dazzling sea of floating light that is Los Angeles, and later stopped to look across the dazzling sea of floating light that is the San Fernando Valley. They agreed that the sense of dazzle stopped immediately at the back of their eyes and didn't touch any other part of them and came away strangely unsatisfied by the spectacle. As dramatic seas of light went, it was fine, but light is meant to illuminate something, and having driven through what this particularly dramatic sea of light was illuminating they didn't think much of it.

IrishMASMS

07-09-2007, 03:29 AM

I spent a couple of months in Iraq working the night shift, primarily to stay out of the heat, but I know where you're coming from. :wink:

I spent way too much time in that part of the world as well - which is where I picked up that bit of information. :idea:

IrishMASMS

07-09-2007, 03:36 AM

heh, maybe i'm very different than the average breed of cat, but i was overwhelmingly unimpressed with vegas when i did the tourist thing. I think it was my second time out there, DC9, and a bunch of us went up and saw the strip, walked through some casinos, and ate a meal at some expensive joint. (it was a fake "bistro" type of affair inside this huge mall/walkway deal that was entirely indoors. don't get me wrong, it was neat and all... but after that one time seeing things there i was totally done with the strip and all that nonsense and have stuck almost exclusively to the con hotel every year since, except for sushi night and the bbq and the gun ranges)

That is the key word: 'average'

The average sheeple or chalk player thinks it is great to roll into town, blow cash on stupid shit, pay crazy amounts on bottle service and door fees, and fancy assed eateries. Those of us that are above all of that need something a bit more to capture our interest & imagination (for the most part)

For the record, there are a handful of cool places on & near the strip - but just like anywhere else you go, they have to be hunder down. You have to go out and find those cool places, they are certainly not going to be in your face out there.

My suggestion: take 'how to ask a question' by ESR and apply it to being a tourist; or the n00b in the new town.

L34ndr4

07-09-2007, 03:20 PM

hey, I'm new to sin city :P and i'll be a couple of days off wandering the city.

I was hoping to go see the grand cannon because it's so close.

Do someone feel like going ??

contact me.

TheCotMan

07-12-2007, 04:07 PM

http://www.harrahs.com/EventsDetail.do?locationCode=RLV&detailName=penn-and-teller-detail&eventTitle=Penn%20&%20Teller#upcoming

No Penn and Teller tickets available from Monday, July 30 through to Friday Aug 3.
I guess if I am going to see them, I'll have to try on Saturday night during Defcon (not going to happen) or Sunday night (which might include sleeping for me)

I guess I could always arrive earlier, but I may have o skip P&T this year.
:-(

mfreeck

07-12-2007, 07:23 PM

mfreeck

07-12-2007, 08:58 PM

Favourite swimming pools?

I looked for a water park in vegas and it seems there is only one that shut down in 2004. I'm not terribly interested in going swimming, but enjoying tubes, waterfalls, waves, etc may be fun. Of course I don't even own a suit, so the pool would have to be permissive with pool clothing.

Wait, I know - you're going to suggest Caeser's "european" pool. Although I've considered it, it's a fuck of a lot of money for a pool. You'll have to tell me why it's cool other than "you see bewbs." I can do that at a bar, or at a defcon party.

So what's your favourite swimming pool, why, how much and who wants to find a water-park type place to hang out for a few hours?

Z^2

07-12-2007, 11:01 PM

So what's your favourite swimming pool, why, how much and who wants to find a water-park type place to hang out for a few hours?

If you find a pool cleaner than what the Riv's looked like last year, I'm in.

blauman

07-13-2007, 08:35 PM

You will love it I am sure, specially if you get access to the new spot platform, it may still be in construction, I had not flight over in long time.
There is another nice destination, you may want to visit the big crater, right out of Winslow Az.

If I get to sneak an aircraft out of Nellis, I may be able to offer you and a few others a nice flight over. we will see. PM if interested, no promises yet, but we will see.

Who knows even Astcell may l wanna join too... What do you say Astcell? it will be far more fun that diving in hostile waters... if I pull this up I will have ~25 seats. but I will need you to screen people.

hey, I'm new to sin city :P and i'll be a couple of days off wandering the city.

I was hoping to go see the grand cannon because it's so close.

Do someone feel like going ??

contact me.

Contrarian

07-15-2007, 10:16 PM

Favourite swimming pools?

Tropicana has an awesome pool area, one of the best in Vegas. If you stay days before or after the con and you're a pool person, switch hotels and go to the Trop or Flamingo (great pool area too). Both are pretty cheap on weekdays. Mandalay bay is also fantastic. I've never stayed at the MGM but it's also suppose to be good.

However for a really cheap stay and great pool area stay at the Trop. Garden rooms are dirt cheap (they are the original rooms from 50 years ago, and it shows).

not5150

07-16-2007, 04:58 PM

Gun related news..

The Great American Gun Show will be August 4th and 5th at Cashman Center in Las Vegas.

Shinobi

07-17-2007, 10:02 AM

Synapse

07-17-2007, 10:56 PM

I happy to say I've got my jump booked for before the Toxic BBQ! Death from above!

Does anyone know of any insurance for sky diving? I'm assuming if I shatter my leg I'll have to pay big bucks in the US.

lol, I never really thought about that.
I'm sure you'll have to fill out a disclaimer saying you chose to take the drop and break your legs.
But they may pay for it for you, being from out of the country and all....and not wanting to deal with it ;p

When is yours booked, you book online?

I plan to jump before the toxic BBQ as well, I just havn't reserved yet.

astcell

07-18-2007, 12:06 PM

I thought about skydiving in and landing at the TBBQ or the Riviera pool. It's been done, hasn't it?

Thorn

07-18-2007, 02:02 PM

I thought about skydiving in and landing at the TBBQ or the Riviera pool. It's been done, hasn't it?Only if you wear a sequined jumpsuit and pompadour wig. :tongue:

Ne0nRa1n

07-18-2007, 06:00 PM

heh, maybe i'm very different than the average breed of cat, but i was overwhelmingly unimpressed with vegas when i did the tourist thing. I think it was my second time out there, DC9, and a bunch of us went up and saw the strip, walked through some casinos, and ate a meal at some expensive joint. (it was a fake "bistro" type of affair inside this huge mall/walkway deal that was entirely indoors. don't get me wrong, it was neat and all... but after that one time seeing things there i was totally done with the strip and all that nonsense and have stuck almost exclusively to the con hotel every year since, except for sushi night and the bbq and the gun ranges)

I don't think that it is so much that you are different than the average breed of cat, as much as how easily amused I am. :biggrin:

I am the type of person that could be entertained for hours just skipping down the Las Vegas strip yelling, Look at me, I am a tourist!' while taking pictures the entire way.

[Syntax]

07-19-2007, 08:04 AM

I'll be getting in Tuesday with a few other people, Tues night were considering hitting one of those discount ticket booths on the strip and maybe seeing a show tues night and another wed night.. If anyone is interested send a message over, and maybe a group of us can get together for a show. I really haven't seen much as far as Vegas shows.

Ne0nRa1n

07-19-2007, 10:22 AM

If anyone is going to the 9 PM showing of Penn and Teller on Sunday I'll be there.

Dead Addict just surprised me with tickets. We are 1st row, front and center! I guess he either bought them yesterday or today.

big chopper

07-19-2007, 03:34 PM

I'm thinking about catching the Vegas Mob Tour on Sunday. It starts at 9:30pm from the Greek Isles (close to the Riviera). and runs about 2.5 hours.

http://www.vegasmobtour.com/

If anyone else is interested, let's get a group together.
--bc.

wizzrd

07-22-2007, 05:26 PM

I got tickets for Penn and Teller for Sunday night as well for the front

wizzrd

07-22-2007, 05:27 PM

i would also like to sky dive while in Vegas, any recommendations for places to do this at?

psypete

07-23-2007, 01:59 PM

http://www.ticketmaster.com/summerofcirque?tm_link=tm_home_f7

$50 tickets to Cirque shows still available, found on SlickDeals

TheCotMan

07-25-2007, 12:35 PM

As it turns out, I will be staying Sunday, and will be going to see Penn and Teller.

Once I got my tickets, I wondered where I was sitting. None of the places where I ordered tickets provided specific seat locations. The best they could do was say "amperstand" seating or not, and show a shaded space in the front left of center, center and right of center as one shade.

Turns out that there is a seating chart for the Rio on their own website (duh. I feel smart!):
http://www.pennandteller.com/03/seatingchart.html

When you check your tickets, I think you can find out where your seat is located:
Row: A,B,C,D... These refer to horizontal rows on that map.
Seat: If only 1, I think it may list just one number, if quantity is greater than one, you may have a range.
Section: 1&, 2&, 3& (front rows), or 1,2,3 (behind front rows), or 4, 5, 6 back.
It would be good for you to find out if you are front center (A6, Section 2&) or elsewhere.

If you are in my seat when I arrive, I will tell on you, and then you'll be sorry.

Ne0nRa1n

07-28-2007, 09:07 PM

I got tickets for Penn and Teller for Sunday night as well for the front

Awesome! Where in the front? I'll have to look for you so I can wave and say hi. :)

Ne0nRa1n

07-28-2007, 09:10 PM

spahkle

07-28-2007, 09:15 PM

I considered the Penn and Teller show, but would only go Monday night due to Sunday nights usually being my most enjoyable night of the con.

TheCotMan

07-28-2007, 09:46 PM

Where are you sitting? We are in 1 and 2 in the front row as far as I know.

Well, that is the thing with the seating... just because you are in seat 1,2,3 doesn't mean you are in the center section (2), since each section, (1,2,3) has seats in their row that start with 1,2,3. A unique key would be a multi-partkey using Row+Seat#+Section. Using Row+Seat# would lead to collisions in the provided namespace.

I'd have to check my tickets again to know where I am sitting. I know it is near the front somewhere.

Deviant Ollam

07-28-2007, 11:44 PM

i may actually have an extra ticket for the sunday night P&T show. someone was going to come along with me but can't make it now. full disclosure: i will be also asking some of my close friends at defcon (the TOOOL people, etc) if they're interested... so any responses right now may be met with the sad news that the seat is already gone. in any case, feel free to shoot me a PM or find me at defcon to ask if it's still available if you like. these are second row, in the $100 section.

liberator

07-29-2007, 09:55 PM

So what's your favourite swimming pool, why, how much and who wants to find a water-park type place to hang out for a few hours?

The Flamingo, hands down. 15 acres of pools, slides, tropical plants, exotic birds, etc. It's an oasis from the concrete jungle of Las Vegas. That's one of the main reasons that my wife and I are staying there this year.

LosT

07-30-2007, 08:48 AM

Here at BH- so a word of warning- it's damn hot people. And I'm from Phoenix.

LosT

jjr

07-30-2007, 09:00 AM

Do the hotels/casinos keep it ridiculously cold such that it would warrant bringing a light jacket/long-sleeved shirt?

bloofar

07-30-2007, 10:27 AM

Do the hotels/casinos keep it ridiculously cold such that it would warrant bringing a light jacket/long-sleeved shirt?

If you're the B-type hacker physique (i.e. 25+ lbs overweight) you'll be fine.
If you're the A-type hacker physique (i.e. skinny white boy) you might be cold.

If it's too cold, just go outside for ~45 seconds. You'll be good for another few hours inside.

big chopper

07-30-2007, 02:38 PM

Do the hotels/casinos keep it ridiculously cold such that it would warrant bringing a light jacket/long-sleeved shirt?

Yes they do. Just remember that even if they keep it at 75 degrees, that might be 35 degrees cooler than outside. I suggest bringing one long sleeve shirt or a hat (since most heat loss happens at the top of your head).
--bc,

sigtom

07-30-2007, 06:07 PM

Re: penn & Teller Show:

Ill be going to the Mon night show, Section 2, Row B, seat 5, smack dab in the middle. As I heard it, from 8-9 P&T do a Jazz show, then 9-10 the show, then 10-10:30~11 they do a meet and greet in the hall way leading out/in to the theater. If anyone else is around for that show that night, lemme know.

wizzrd

07-31-2007, 12:48 PM

Awesome! Where in the front? I'll have to look for you so I can wave and say hi. :)

row A seat 3, where are you sitting?

J3di

07-31-2007, 03:33 PM

If you're the B-type hacker physique (i.e. 25+ lbs overweight) you'll be fine.
If you're the A-type hacker physique (i.e. skinny white boy) you might be cold.

If it's too cold, just go outside for ~45 seconds. You'll be good for another few hours inside.

My suggestion would be keep a good flask handy and take a nip of it when you feel the chill.

Deviant Ollam

07-31-2007, 06:20 PM

i may actually have an extra ticket for the sunday night P&T show.sorry to anyone who shot me a message, but the person to whom i originally offered the spare ticket that had come available accepted. best of luck to anyone else who is trying to get to the show.

TheCotMan

08-01-2007, 01:37 AM

Saw "Stomp" Monday night, that was fun. Percussion and on-stage comedy.
Saw Blueman tonight. "Eh." I was not as impressed.

Monday, I went to American Shooters. This year, unlike The Gun Store, American Shooters gave us the weapons, the rounds, the clip (or magazine) and let us take them to the range, load them, and fire them without a rangemaster present. At the Gun Store, 2 or 3 years ago, they sharged us about $120 each, for 4 magazines and each automatic weapon. American shooters charged us $60 for rental of automatic weapon, 50 rounds of ammo (.45) or $50 for rental of automatic weapons and 50 rounds of ammo (9mm) plus a few extra bucks for rental of goggles, ear protection, and range access.

The Gun Store let us trade weapons without extra cost. Apparently, American Shooters charges each shooter, so trading weapons doubles cost. Depending on your use, American Shooters may save you money.

We go to the Gun Store tomorrow, and may go back to American Shooters because of our experience there compared to the gun store last time.

The Atomic Testing museum was great. Lots of video footage. Want a good laugh? Get to the copies of the "Certificates of Participation" on the various classified projects. About 1/3 of them made me smile or laugh out loud. :-) (It was like $12.75 each, maybe more or less.)

They do not allow flas photography in the museum, or cell phones with cameras, and have staff in the museum. If you read everything, and watch all of the videos, and use all of the computer simulation/games you shoudl expect to spend from 2 to 4 hours here.

Spam-A-Lot is now on my list, as well as P&T and of course Defcon and the TBBQ. :-)

Added:
Went to the 7-11 in Henderson that was re-done as a Kwik-E-Mart, but they were in the process of tearing it all down. Only thing left were a few color stripes on the gas station, some Squishie cups, donuts, 2 employees in the Kwik-E-Mart uniform, and one statue behind the counter.

The 7-11 on the strip between the Sahra and the Riv still has 6-packs of Buzz Cola, and some simpsons trading cards.