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  • xor
    not
    • Aug 2007
    • 1347
    #1

    New VISA card.....

    New Visa Card Has Computer And Password Device Built-In

    http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch...mputer_and.php

    We need some for Defcon..

    xor
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.
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    • Greyhatter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 408
      #2
      Re: New VISA card.....

      Originally posted by xor
      New Visa Card Has Computer And Password Device Built-In


      xor
      After the PDA, and the $200 kiddie laptops for the disenfranchised, this had to be next. A computer in a credit card. Where do the batteries go? Is there a stylus for the keyboard, or will it receive mental commands instead of stylus strokes? Oh, credit card?...Oh, credit card?.. Just use the stylus Mr. Scott.

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        • SarperDomain
          Unconfirmed Email
          • Mar 2007
          • 120
          #3
          Re: New VISA card.....

          Another problem, no computerized number is random, it just takes time to find the patterns.
          Give it 2 years, it will be reverse engineered like everything else.
          Last edited by SarperDomain; November 20, 2008, 19:33.

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            • SarperDomain
              Unconfirmed Email
              • Mar 2007
              • 120
              #4
              Re: New VISA card.....

              http://lab.emue.com/videos/scenario2_2.wmv

              Big mistake, loading an employee verification table on the card suggests that there is a way to access a programming interface on it.

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                • streaker69
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1141
                  #5
                  Re: New VISA card.....

                  Originally posted by SarperDomain
                  Too funny, set this thing too close to a fridge magnet or a running motor and *poof, there goes the CVV system.
                  Uh, if it doesn't have any magnetic based storage, a magnetic field shouldn't have any effect upon it's function. Even if you were concerned about the mag-stripe for the CC portion, Mythbuster's had shown on a previous episode that it takes a fairly large magnetic field to erase the stripe.

                  But if you think that a magnetic field is going to have an effect upon a processor or RAM based storage, I'd be more than happy to conduct some tests with about 30 neodymium magnets I pulled out of harddrives on a spare computer.
                  A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                    • SarperDomain
                      Unconfirmed Email
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 120
                      #6
                      Re: New VISA card.....

                      Redacted...
                      Last edited by SarperDomain; November 20, 2008, 19:34.

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                        • streaker69
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1141
                          #7
                          Re: New VISA card.....

                          Originally posted by SarperDomain
                          Sorry I was actually thinking the motor more than the magnet, magnetron electronic field induction.
                          Not to be pedantic, but a magnetron is what's in microwave ovens or other types of microwave transmitters, I'm sure it was just a typo.

                          But even so, Every CPU has a motor on top of it generating an magnetic field, every harddrive has a motor in it, same with floppy drives. You'd need a really big motor/generator, maybe something along the lines of power plant size to generate enough induction to maybe cause problems.

                          I have PC's nearby 400 and 500 HP 480V 3phase motors and haven't had an issue. I just don't think a magnetic field is going to have any effect upon the function of this device.
                          A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                            • SarperDomain
                              Unconfirmed Email
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 120
                              #8
                              Re: New VISA card.....

                              I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.

                              /me is a dumbass, streaker is right, chip cannot be harmed like that.
                              I need to go read books again, I think this laptop is frying my braincells.

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                                • streaker69
                                  • Mar 2008
                                  • 1141
                                  #9
                                  Re: New VISA card.....

                                  Originally posted by SarperDomain
                                  I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.
                                  You mean like an EMP?

                                  If one occurs, I don't think I'll be terribly concerned that the computer on my CC no longer functions. I'll probably be too busy stockpiling twinkies and watching roaches mutate.
                                  A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                                    • SarperDomain
                                      Unconfirmed Email
                                      • Mar 2007
                                      • 120
                                      #10
                                      Re: New VISA card.....

                                      /me thinks streaker is quote happy. lol

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                                        • Greyhatter
                                          Banned
                                          • May 2007
                                          • 408
                                          #11
                                          Re: New VISA card.....

                                          Originally posted by SarperDomain
                                          I was just pondering the shielding if any, in place.
                                          I suppose if you're gonna' disable it you might locate it's placement in the card then place the card on a smooth piece of hardened metal and introduce the card to the forward momentum of a nail driving hammer. One or two hits and the card was flat anyway so it still looks ok, but confirming the result may be challenging.

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                                            • xor
                                              not
                                              • Aug 2007
                                              • 1347
                                              #12
                                              Re: New VISA card.....

                                              I think direct exposure to the average stun gun would fry it to death.

                                              xor
                                              Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.

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                                                • streaker69
                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                  • 1141
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: New VISA card.....

                                                  Originally posted by xor
                                                  I think direct exposure to the average stun gun would fry it to death.

                                                  xor
                                                  That's why it has "Don't Tase me bro" shielding on it. :)
                                                  A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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                                                    • Greyhatter
                                                      Banned
                                                      • May 2007
                                                      • 408
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: New VISA card.....

                                                      Originally posted by streaker69
                                                      That's why it has "Don't Tase me bro" shielding on it. :)
                                                      an o joke? clever.

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