More RIAA nonsense...

[TheCotMan]

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As charged!

When you copy from radio to tape you did not buy the tune and as Xor said pony up some skin. Tell me where that's different than what I siphon off Utube minus my pound of flesh? I record off the Internet what you recorded off the radio for free. By the way I can say I don't miss the days waiting by the radio to "get it" minus the distractions or even pressing play when I forgot to press record. I can remember those DJ's exceled at talking into to start and ending of each tune so we never got a "pure" recording. I'll bet the recording industry "forced" stations DJ's to do that (using lawyers) just to keep sales up.

Copyright law (and case law interpreting copyright law) address public band radio broadcasts explicitly, as well as public band TV, while "digital" copies are handled in another section, which looks to me, to be more restrictive unless "library" or "archive" is present.

Copyright law is also written in such a way, as to make it illegal to copy something that is copyrighted unless a specific exception is mentioned in the law to allow for the copy of that copyrighted item. (Such as licensed copies by payment, explicit written consent, or any of the Fair Use items.)

Additionally, if something is broadcast on YouTube (or other spaces on the internet) and it was illegally uploaded for consumption, that does not make copies downloaded suddenly legal. (Similar to stolen property -- possession of stolen property is still possession of stolen property, even if it was purchased at a flea market, swap meat, crags list, or ebay.)

[Greyhatter]

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Thank you for that CotMan. Somehow I feel dirty. Do I stink? Is my odor digital or analog? It's all so confusing, but at least you seem to have a pretty good grasp of it. The more I learn the more I feel like a "newbee" to it all. Is there a difference between "digital" and "analog" copyright law? Radio and TV stations once all broadcast in analog and now are moving to digital so is this apples and apples or apples and oranges with regard to copying a digital or analog signal?

[astcell]

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Sue the blank tape makers!

[^Dash^]

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A few months ago there was an incident in my country involving our RIAA counterpart. They sued a 56 year old man who downloaded over 4000 oldies and ever-green's from the internet. It started a mass riot in the press, as the charges against 4 other persons who were selling pirated songs were dropped, due to insufficient evidence.
As it turns out, the guys who were selling illegal MP3s were smart enough to erase their harddrives, after those retarted officers sent a subpoena warning them that they'll be sued. The 56 year old man didn't, and they tried to convict him.

[TheCotMan]

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Thank you for that CotMan. Somehow I feel dirty. Do I stink? Is my odor digital or analog?

I don't know. I have filters enabled.

It's all so confusing, but at least you seem to have a pretty good grasp of it.

Any grasp I have of it is after reading through it.

The more I learn the more I feel like a "newbee" to it all. Is there a difference between "digital" and "analog" copyright law?

From what I read, the biggest differences are on how the content is used, such as personal use vs. broadcast, and how it is broadcast (cable, or air waves.) There are very few (if any) differences between analog and digital video broadcasts (Cable TV or Broadcast TV) in what I've read.

For Video, it looks like changes have been made to ensure digital recording were paired with analog recording in the broadcast sections covering cable and air waves.
However, a similar pairing on the exceptions for "phonographic" (audio on media) digital recordings does not seem to have been explicitly included unless a library or archive are involved.

So, I guess, there are differences, depending on which section you examine. Review the footnote, and you will see how DCMA and other changes have updated copyright law.

Radio and TV stations once all broadcast in analog and now are moving to digital so is this apples and apples or apples and oranges with regard to copying a digital or analog signal?

This is one place in copyright law which seems to have had duplication for each instance of analog into digital. It looks like the rights we (consumers) have with analog video broadcast is close to identical to digital whether the broadcast is on cable TV or using broadcast TV.

The Internet is not considered Cable TV or Broadcast TV.

Of course, I am not a lawyer. If you want to know what is covered and what is not, you can visit the links provided above and read the laws to better understand your own exposure.

[Nikita]

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I saw this today and thought it was funny and maybe a little humor could be added to the RIAA nonsense thread... enjoy.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...tes.php?page=1

[Greyhatter]

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http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...tes.php?page=1

Very funny Nikita.. "Thank you for that it made my day!"

I can only wonder that the other day I went to my public library (paid for with my levy/tax money and others) and borrowed a CD. There was one song so funny I had to have it so I duplicated it onto tape but the rest of the compilation was so terrible I would never had paid for the whole CD regardless. I'm sure I did something wrong here as last week I also held a garage sale and sold many CD's, cassette tapes, and old 33's. Some had 25 cents on the price tags others 5 and 10 even 15 bucks. I'm sure I did something wrong here too. Today I went to a garage sale and bought several newer CD's for $15 and some change (new they would have easily been over $100 worth of music in the stores). Was I purchasing stolen goods by not paying the artist a second time? What laws prohibit selling works at garage sales, or even auctions?? My point is "and this is a feeling only" once you pay for the music rights one time it should be yours "period". After that if you want to make 100 copies for yourself so what! If you copy it and give it to others that's a no no even if it's a gift. And of course copying and selling an entire work a big no no "piracy". However, I think these mystical laws become almost terroristic at times to disswade rather than enforce. Am I confused and on my way to jail like so many others? By the way CotMan good your using "filters" as I still stink.