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[converge]

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I dont mind helping either, Ill be in town for Black Hat so I will have some free time. Mainly hoping to get the EFF meet going. Add me to the list of volunteers..

- Dallas

You've got it.

[Dallas]

Re: Do you want to organize this?

I dont mind helping either, Ill be in town for Black Hat so I will have some free time. Mainly hoping to get the EFF meet going. Add me to the list of volunteers..

- Dallas

Just let me know time, and I'll get you guys a space as close to it as possible!

[Dark Tangent]

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Just let me know time, and I'll get you guys a space as close to it as possible!

[haden]

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well technically were not really laying anything down in stone yet were just seeing who wants to help organize the meet. once its finalized we can open it up for planing. now i believe that we have plenty of volunteres so lets start planing in some new threads.

converge's list of organizers:
Abby_Normal
Chris
meee
haden
mouseling
lil_freak
DaKahuna
converge

[HighWiz]

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Alright, however you all manage to put this together, I will be there. As far as the badge creation goes...I kind of want to adopt a hacker handle. I already have one in mind, but if I switch from using my real name to a handle in the middle of my involvement with this community, will I be branded as a super-dork for all eternity? I'm concerned!

Don't worry about coming up with a handle. Come find me at DefCon and I will give you one.

As for the whiner babies, things tend to just sit there and not really get done when they're discussed on the forums. It's much easier when I have to reply to something in my inbox then navigate over to the forums and wade through all the useless crap.... Yea, useless crap like " I don't have a handle, blah blah blah". This post isn't bad on its own, but when some people are trying to have a discussion on organizing an event and other people come in and start getting everyone off topic, it tends to make things a lot harder to do.

Oh well... People always have to bitch about something.

[Deviant Ollam]

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I've always been a big fan of using things like forums as opposed to email for planning a project or event simply because it lays out everyone's thoughts and ideas in a linear fashion. with emails, you get multiple threads and lines of thought branching out into a disorganized, skewed, and often forked series of reply-to-all discussions. I suppose that sort of a problem is less likely to develop with respect to a one-time event like the forum meet... but still, having all the talk in one spot without extraneous chatter (like what's found in most folks' inboxes) is a plus.

Anyway... it's the forum meet. I'd figure that anyone interested in it would be right here, checking in with the forums plenty of the time, no?

[converge]

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Wait - we already have a DC IRC and a DC mailing list. Do we need to create something new or can't we just use those medium's, or even this forum to coordinate versus creating something new?

Not all folks interested in planning this lurk on IRC. Not all folks interesting planning tail the dc-stuff list. I happy to follow all three mediums mentioned and none of them are ideal for planning because those interested in planning are a small subset of the entirety.

Don't get me wrong. Input for what people want is driven by the forum members and will drive the planning, but (as demonstrated by last years event) a successful meet requires people that *work* to make it happen. Understandably not everyone wants to or has time to partake in that effort. To exemplify, prior to the TBBQ there were plenty of people willing to give input about an event of its kind, but it was never a go until the formation of a email list of folks willing to make it happen. Now it's a staple with no less than hundreds of people willing to make it happen and yes, similar planning overhead still happens every year outside of direct public eye.. this year will certainly not be an exception after the added hurdles due to local enforcement not liking our unaccounted numbers.

To be honest, I'm laying here scratching my head and my ass trying to figure out why something as simple as a small mailing list can depress so many of my technically-minded commrades. Seriously.. its email. Corporate got you down? Does everyone just communicate through myspace nowadays? At any rate.. apologies if this comes across snippy at all, I'm just confounded but open to suggestions as always.

[DaKahuna]

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Wait - we already have a DC IRC and a DC mailing list. Do we need to create something new or can't we just use those medium's, or even this forum to coordinate versus creating something new?

[jur1st]

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they are soon to be discussed upon mail list creation

A mailing list to discuss forum meetup issues? DEFCON is becoming too corporate.

[haden]

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i agree the tbbq would be perfect

[DJ Jackalope]

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TBBQ FTW is my vote.

[converge]

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Ay, ay.. Not showing up for multiple years in a row is punishable by method of choice from highwiz. Don't shoot the messenger, just saying...

Date and time not yet settled, a few ideas have been tossed around with all things considered; they are soon to be discussed upon mail list creation. Anyone that wants to be involved with planning, it is not too late.

[goathead]

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If you have at least one verifiable post on the forums and are wearing your avatar badge while watching either the Titanium Chef event or the Beer Cooling Contraption Competition then I will provide you with free alcohol until i run out.

IA IA D.Ollam!

I hope to take you up on that sir. ;)

[jur1st]

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I second this motion. After two years of failed meet-ups I think that it's time to explore other options. ToxicBBQ served as the de facto forum meet up last year and I love the idea of getting together for some beers in the afternoon.

Considering the weather here today, the tent out back seems downright inviting right now.

[Deviant Ollam]

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would i be massively unpopular with the security goons if i were to say, with as resounding a voice as i can muster, that thursday afternoon at the BBQ makes the most sense?

i know some people aren't in town yet, and some people are working. my two responses there (not to sound too much like an asshole) are...

1. why aren't you in town yet by thursday afternoon/evening? jeeze, people... i know this is a sweeping generalization but you must know how to fake a sick day or something by now. DefCon starts on Thursday (technically it starts wednesday with SushiCon or even, some folk would say, Tuesday with Quark's Bar) and that's the way it's been for years now. I know that it sucks if you aren't here yet, but DefCon comes once a year. If you're fanatical enough about it to care about the forum meet then you're fanatical enough to get in town early.

2. Too all my fellow red-badge folk for whom Thurs. afternoon/evening is a bad time... what exactly is a good time for you over the course of the weekend? I'm willing to bet that there isn't a consistently decent time for all the goons and staff to meet up and be in one place at one time. Hence, my additional solution...

As silly an idea as this may be, what about "splitting" the Forum Meet into two parts? If you can make it to the ToxicBBQ, great. If you can't, then come outside to the Beer Cooling Competition at noon on Friday. My policy to encourage this and hopefully reduce ridicule will be as follows...

If you have at least one verifiable post on the forums and are wearing your avatar badge while watching either the Titanium Chef event or the Beer Cooling Contraption Competition then I will provide you with free alcohol until i run out.

And if you make it to both meetups, you kick ass and i'll give you cherry bombs or something even more potent than beer.

What are your thoughts? I may be way off base here. And pardon any belligerence, i had one too many lunch beers.