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    Man loses appeal over cartoon porn based on The Simpsons
    CARTOON characters are people too, a judge has ruled in the case of a man convicted over cartoons based on The Simpsons, in which "children" are shown having sex.
    ...
    Alan John McEwan was appealing his February conviction for possessing child pornography and using his computer to access "child" pornography.
    (sad, ironic emphases mine)
    Now granted, this took place in Australia... so it's not like this particular incident of judicial lunacy is one of the many that continue to take place in the US, but it still made me think a lot. Are you the type to save archives of many, many old emails? I know i've got messages going well back to circa 1997 or 1998 saved in my MAIL directory. Thank god for crypto, because i don't even want to think about having to manually search through all that each time some government finds a new item objectionable and obscene.

    While i highly doubt that i am in possession of any of these parody images, i know that for sure many of you have seen some of them before. Hell, if you perform the right Google Image Search they spill out all over the damn page. (Don't click that link if you're in Australia, i suppose, or you could be next on Justice Michael Adams' chopping block.)

    Of particular interest to me is the undeniable fact that these are clearly parody/satire/etc. I can almost understand the notion of treating "fictional" child porn as something to be taken seriously if it's very realistic drawings and such of youths engaged in sex acts, even if the drawings are "fictional" it might still merit some investigation or counseling for the accused party. But here we have sketches well-known television characters who do not represent anyone in "real life" being treated like polaroids taken in the back of a perverted day-care center before it was shut down.

    The biggest problem with this style of government creep (and something they didn't touch on in the article at all, despite my belief that it was a factor) is that, sure, while they're not likely to ever go after 99% of the public for this nonsense... once you establish a lot of "little" serious crimes on the books, you all but guarantee that all people are guilty of at least one or two of them. Where does that lead, you ask?
    Let's say you are being charged with dealing drugs...

    Cops, acting on a tip from a junkie looking to get out of a possession bust, storm through your front door because they believed whatever piece of nonsense information the crackhead pulled out of his ass. Not wanting to look stupid or admit that they destroyed an innocent party's home by acting on bad information that they didn't bother to verify, they tear your house apart with dogs... ultimately finding maybe a one-finger bag of schwag and a dirty bong in the back of a closet.

    You didn't have major weight in drugs (or, indeed, any cocaine based products at all... but the warrant was sufficiently vague to let that slip past) but the small bag, when taken along with the new, unopened box of Ziplock bags you had in the kitchen and your bathroom scale, is enough for them to put together a phony case against you. You spend your days in jail and time being put through the system. You get your public defender who gets you through your arraignment and bail hearings and possibly you then get your real lawyer. The case is laughable... but in a meeting with the prosecutor's office it is revealed that a 5¼" floppy disk they found in a box in your basement next to some old Comodore 64 parts and a broken Atari had this fuzzy GIF image of Maude, Rod, and Todd Flanders from The Simpsons in their altogether.

    Your attorney turns white. The A.D.A. says that unless you plead out on the drug charge, you'll additionally be slammed with a kiddie porn angle. Depending on what state you live in, that means appearance on an offender registry even after being arraigned, let alone sent to trial. This would, of course, also mean a large increase in your bail. Being that this will likely put you beyond your financial means, that will almost certainly result in you being sent back to county until your trial date. Forget missing work and being unable to make the rent... your mind can't get around being sent back into the tombs with a kiddie porn charge on your jacket.

    Your lawyer pulls you aside and starts frantically whispering in your ear. In all likelihood, you take the deal. It's bullshit like this "Simpsons cartoon porn" matter that, once they creep into the system, turn situations where the state should be a laughing stock and forced to apologize and pay for disrupting people's lives into situations where one more citizen is stripped of everything and has their life thrown away, just so the government can save face.

    OK, rant over. Didn't mean to have that run so long. Guess I just had a lot to say. Fuck, what is wrong with the whole goddamn world, anymore?
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    Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

    I was tempted to laugh at this before I realised the implications this charge is going to have on this man's life.

    I'm not familiar with Australian Law, but I assume those who bear charges related to child pornography are put on some sort of list (simply called the Sex Offenders List in the UK and Ireland), have to face the social implications of the charge; does this man have a wife, nieces and nephews or even children himself? And also come to terms with the future implications such as reduced job prospects (depending perhaps on his line of work).

    I know in Northern Ireland those that are even rumoured to be involved with such things are shunned, feared and looked down upon. And rightly so. But this man will become a social outcast over satyrical, adult humour.

    If I draw some crude stick figures engaging in sexual acts, give them names and ages under the age of 18, am I in the possession of Child Pornography?
    This is a horrible font

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    • #3
      Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

      While working as an administrator in an Ohio child protective agency some 18 years ago a picture had circulated between staff of Maggie performing oral sex on Bart because Maggie had lost her pacifier. The picture was a fairly detailed hand sketch run off on a copy machine. No one was disciplined and the origin of the photo remains unknown (Googled it).

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      • #4
        Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

        Sounds like the line between the virtual world and real world is getting a little blurred.
        also this:
        http://news.cnet.com/Police-blotter-...3-6145563.html

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        • #5
          Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

          aaah... from that article we learn the following...
          In 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a federal law banning the possession of images of minors in lascivious poses that were either Photoshop-altered adults or completely computer-generated. Since then, to secure a conviction, prosecutors must prove that a defendant possessed images of real--not virtual--children.
          so, the current status of the law in the United States is that the SCOTUS found that images have to be of "real" children to qualify as child porn, but politicians have been trying to ram through legislation for a while now stating that would make you a sex offender if you have any image that "appears to be" a minor in a sexual situation.

          guess that means when your girlfriend pulls out the old high school cheerleader's outfit to add some extra fun in the bedroom, you'd better leave the camera out of it. (bonus points to anyone who can tell me the movie in my collection from which i screen-grabbed that)

          the maddenly vague wording of the law that members of congress often try to pass could make it possibly apply to things like cartoons and other whatnot. think it's any coincidence that the Supremes are appointed for life, while the beltway suits have to pander to voters every two or six years?
          Last edited by Deviant Ollam; December 9, 2008, 07:55.
          "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
          - Trent Reznor

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          • #6
            Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

            Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
            guess that means when your girlfriend pulls out the old high school cheerleader's outfit to add some extra fun in the bedroom, you'd better leave the camera out of it. (bonus points to anyone who can tell me the movie in my collection from which i screen-grabbed that)
            "A History of Violence", approximately 15 minutes 38 seconds into the movie... ;)
            "\x74\x68\x65\x70\x72\x65\x7a\x39\x38";

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            • #7
              Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

              The simpson have been running for at least 18 years now, your'd expect Lisa, Bart and Maggie to be over 18 now... Maybe they are just Midget!

              So is midget porn also illegal?
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              • #8
                Re: You might have "child porn" on your drive right now

                Originally posted by theprez98 View Post
                "A History of Violence", approximately 15 minutes 38 seconds into the movie... ;)
                Correct! One really messed up movie and even more messed up comic book.
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