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    Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

    Does anyone remember this piece of door security hardware that was advertised on TV commercials in the past? I've attempted to describe it in words to a few people, but it's rather too obscure or unique to do it justice properly without an image. So, i made a sketch...


    ... this item would rest in a small hole mounted in the floor (green arrow). There was a curvature to the unit that would allow it to be employed in two ways. If inserted into the hole in the floor with the curve facing away from the door (figure one) there is just enough room for the door to open a crack, in order to converse briefly but securely with someone outside. If inserted into the hole with the curve facing towards the door (figure two) the door cannot budge at all.

    The commercials were pretty powerful, showing the door withstanding amazing force... far more than a simple chain. If i recall, there was even a nice brass plate that could be mounted to the bottom of the door on the inside (all of the hardware was brass, i believe) that even featured hooks (red arrow) upon which to hang the door blocker when not in use.
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    Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

    I remember it, and I think there was a brass plate that re-enforced the hole in the floor as well.

    I've never seen one in person, I don't recall what it's actual name was. Maybe there's something about it on the As Seen on TV website.
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      Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

      On a related note Deviant, did you catch the MythBusters episode about kicking in doors from a year or so ago? It turned out the chain was the only one to survive! They attributed it to the extra long wood screw they used when installing the hardware instead of the shorter screws that were provided.
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      • #4
        Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

        Can't help as I don't believe I have ever seen this device.
        However, reading this reminded of one of my favorite scenes from the movie "Jumping Jack Flash" staring Whoopie Goldberg. She reinforced the door with to her apartment with steel and had a metal bar which attached to a reinforced hole in the floor. With the bar in place the police could not bust down the door despite their best efforts.
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        • #5
          Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

          Originally posted by Dark Tangent View Post
          On a related note Deviant, did you catch the MythBusters episode about kicking in doors from a year or so ago? It turned out the chain was the only one to survive! They attributed it to the extra long wood screw they used when installing the hardware instead of the shorter screws that were provided.
          While trying to find a link to the thing he's talking about, I found a place selling a strike plate that's about 5 feet long with extra long screws on it. Supposed to prevent kick-ins.

          I'd think those things the hotels are using now would work just as good as a chain if you'd install them with extra long screws as well.
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          • #6
            Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

            Originally posted by Dark Tangent
            Deviant, did you catch the MythBusters episode about kicking in doors from a year or so ago? It turned out the chain was the only one to survive!
            yeah... i have that one in my collection. (heh, i have all the mythbusters eps in the Traveling Terabyte archive) And you make the most key point... that the extra-long screws are what saved the door from failing. Solid-core doors and screws into studs as opposed to moulding... that's a really big part of making doors kick-proof.

            Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
            I'd think those things the hotels are using now would work just as good as a chain if you'd install them with extra long screws as well.
            you mean the "security latch" that folds over a small peg on the door? All hotels have one of these devices in their security office. If you're rolling a joint or getting it on with a hooker, i wouldn't trust the built-in lock on any hotel door. A device such as this one is likely your best bet.
            "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
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            • #7
              Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

              Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post

              you mean the "security latch" that folds over a small peg on the door? All hotels have one of these devices in their security office. If you're rolling a joint or getting it on with a hooker, i wouldn't trust the built-in lock on any hotel door. A device such as this one is likely your best bet.
              I was thinking more along the lines of a kick-in, not a tool designed to defeat it.

              Being Amish, I don't think of such things as 'getting it on with a hooker'. :)
              A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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              • #8
                Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
                Does anyone remember this piece of door security hardware that was advertised on TV commercials in the past? I've attempted to describe it in words to a few people, but it's rather too obscure or unique to do it justice properly without an image. So, i made a sketch...


                ... this item would rest in a small hole mounted in the floor (green arrow). There was a curvature to the unit that would allow it to be employed in two ways. If inserted into the hole in the floor with the curve facing away from the door (figure one) there is just enough room for the door to open a crack, in order to converse briefly but securely with someone outside. If inserted into the hole with the curve facing towards the door (figure two) the door cannot budge at all.

                The commercials were pretty powerful, showing the door withstanding amazing force... far more than a simple chain. If i recall, there was even a nice brass plate that could be mounted to the bottom of the door on the inside (all of the hardware was brass, i believe) that even featured hooks (red arrow) upon which to hang the door blocker when not in use.
                Seen it IRL, works good at keeping people out when you are inside. I've also seen the brace that mounts into the floor about 2 feet away from the door. This device has a metal pole that comes up to the door at about a 45 to 60 degree angle and locks into a deadbolt like device on the door. The key opens the mech up and allows the pole to slide up releasing the door when it is pushed on. This type of device allows you to lock out as well as in.

                Devices like that seem to work best with metal doors; wood having obvious flaws.

                The best way to secure a door is a 4 - 8 point locking mechanism similar to what is used in a safe. Best visual example would be a bulk head door on a ship.

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                • #9
                  Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                  Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
                  I was thinking more along the lines of a kick-in, not a tool designed to defeat it.

                  Being Amish, I don't think of such things as 'getting it on with a hooker'. :)
                  Interesting. I noticed you made no mention of "rolling a joint"
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                  • #10
                    Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                    Hey I just bought that out of the Sky Mall catalog.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                      Don't remember the name of it, but I seem to recall it being bypassed by "evil do-ers" using a curved rake-like tool inserted under the door and allowed to lift the device out of the hole.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                        Originally posted by beakmyn View Post
                        Hey I just bought that out of the Sky Mall catalog.
                        wow. that has to be the most fabulously non-helpful post ever. You have alerted us to the fact that this item does, indeed, exist. You haven't stated what it is named, how much you paid, etc. Essentially, nothing that would help us find it.

                        I've gone through everything in the relevant section of skymall.com and now it seems like you didn't buy one of the item that we're seeking in this thread, but rather one of the "door bar" items i mentioned in an above post.

                        If i'm wrong, that'd be great, and I'd love to see where the actual door-stopper item that we're seeking can be found or what its official product name happens to be.
                        "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
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                        • #13
                          Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                          Close but not quite:
                          http : //www . taylorbrothersdoorlock . com / (remove the spaces to make a URL)

                          Closer. Looks like what you describe:
                          http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html

                          How I got this last one

                          But read the patent and see reference to "The Door Club" and a google search later:
                          http://www.securityworld.com/pc-1587...ub-1-pack.aspx

                          BAM!
                          Google-fu. Witness it.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                            Originally posted by Deviant Ollam View Post
                            wow. that has to be the most fabulously non-helpful post ever. You have alerted us to the fact that this item does, indeed, exist. You haven't stated what it is named, how much you paid, etc. Essentially, nothing that would help us find it.

                            I've gone through everything in the relevant section of skymall.com and now it seems like you didn't buy one of the item that we're seeking in this thread, but rather one of the "door bar" items i mentioned in an above post.

                            If i'm wrong, that'd be great, and I'd love to see where the actual door-stopper item that we're seeking can be found or what its official product name happens to be.
                            So I take it you didn't like his post...

                            Also try this.

                            http://www.secure-ur-home.com/

                            More Google FU

                            Dam Cotman beat me to it. Your FU is better than mine(hangs head, takes sword and commits seppuku)(kidding of course)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Anyone remember this piece of door hardware?

                              Amusement like that found in "Keep your parents off the internet" (or alternate from youtube) by "Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie"

                              Instead...
                              "I want to do a search on the internet for various colors of The Door Club on the internet, especially in green, so I'll search for Green Door Club!"
                              Gah!

                              Heh heh. Porn.

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