Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

[Nobody]

Re: Traveling with Firearms

I was flying from Reno through Miami into the Caribbean a few years ago via Delta.

I got to MIA with one of those $60 Daisy airrifles. When I went to check the hard case, the Delta rep told me that I couldn't fly outside of the country with an airgun. So, I appealed to his supervisor. This chick was obviously overworked and just as obviously didn't know her shit. She affirmed her rep's denial. So, I checked the rest of my luggage and got both of their names.

I grabbed one of the Miami metro cops stationed at the airport and asked him if he had kids. He gave me a weird look, and told me he did. I offered him my air rifle, but he wasn't having it. So, he called the chief of security over and then we all went over to the Delta counter.

Turns out Delta's folks in MIA didn't know shit and were just making stuff up as they went along.

It was actually easier to get my airgun into the Caribbean country than it was to get it OUT of the USA. And that just ain't right. When I left the country, I donated my inflatable raft, my fishing pole, my tacklebox, my bicycle, and my airgun and 500 pellets and a few hundred targets to the 11 year old boy next door.

Swear to God, his smile was so big and wide I thought his head would fall off.

So, I haven't flown Delta since. And I've flown to and from PHL with handguns, as I was going to New Jersey and I'd be damned if I'd go in unarmed. Perfectly polite folks. I left my ammo in a plastic bag, and when I got to Vegas I found that they'd packed my ammo in a box for me!!! Way to go, TSA!

[theprez98]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

That 1490 case was perfect; thanks for the info Noid!!!! Fits in my regular checked suit case perfectly leaving room for clothes and stuff. The 1490 has plenty of room for my camera and gun. Have a Kryptonite cable to attach the case to the larger suit case. This means I have my cyber gear in my carry on and the rest in my checked luggage. This is great as I only have to carry 2 items.

xor

-10 pts for use of word: "cyber"

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

That 1490 case was perfect; thanks for the info Noid!!!! Fits in my regular checked suit case perfectly leaving room for clothes and stuff. The 1490 has plenty of room for my camera and gun. Have a Kryptonite cable to attach the case to the larger suit case. This means I have my cyber gear in my carry on and the rest in my checked luggage. This is great as I only have to carry 2 items.

xor

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Deviant - agree the .308 is a sweet round. i was on the base rifle team in 1969 - 1970. We had the full M-1 Garand with match barrels (embedded in fiberglass).

ooh, sounds lovely. now, during that period were they chambered in .308 as opposed to .30-06 ?

That carbine looks great and wish I was going to be at the shoot to pop off a few rounds for old time sakes.

just for the record, this one's not a carbine... M1A == M-14 (well, without the select-fire). while .30 CAR may have the same diameter as .308, there's surely significant difference in terms of ballistics.

[DaKahuna]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Deviant - agree the .308 is a sweet round. i was on the base rifle team in 1969 - 1970. We had the full M-1 Garand with match barrels (embedded in fiberglass). That carbine looks great and wish I was going to be at the shoot to pop off a few rounds for old time sakes.

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Just ordered my 1490 from Cases4Less. ... Great store!!!

indeed. my latest shipment from them just arrived. i wouldn't have dreamed i could get another 17XX case for under $200. it's all set for the DC Shoot...

... in the lower portion of that image is the new M1A, which is coming to the DC Shoot for anyone to try. if you've never danced with a .308 round i highly recommend it... and the iron sights on this one are astonishingly accurate. if you don't mind a bit of shoulder punishment you can pull of surprising MOA.

i think this year how i'll handle things with my high-powered steel will be a dollar a round, which is almost close to what one pays for a lot of rifle ammo now. in truth, ten rounds would really cost more like $7 or $8 when you factor in shipping, etc... but i have to get all this out to Vegas from the east coast, heh. think that's fair? if so, i'll have pre-packed allotments of .223 and .308 for about a dozen or so folks. i'll also have a lot of .22, which still thankfully costs almost nothing, so we'll figure something out there like just buying me a beer later on.

i don't mind you bringing your own ammo if you're shooting my guns, but i'd prefer brass casings as opposed to steel.

as for what else is in that rifle case? well... it's covered by the gun sock because it's a secret for now. that firearm will be used for this year's marksmanship contest. you'll have to see what it is when we make it out to the Shoot site.

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Just ordered my 1490 from Cases4Less.

xor

Ps Great store!!! I know now where I'm getting my next Leatherman tool from. Use to paying almost double what they charge.

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Out of curiousity, what are the minimum measurements you would consider for a box shipping a pistol with you on an airline? Briefcase sized? Cooler sized?

heh, you know... no one has ever asked me so specifically before.

i would say that all matters are somewhat relative, but that it basically comes down to "what size container would you assume that even a well-thought-out thief could not smuggle out of the work area past his supervisor(s)?

most luggage item thieves take items from bags and stick them in a bag of some sort to get out of their work area. employee gym bags, backpacks, etc... these are all common sights in baggage handling zones. they are said to hold their lunches, spare clothes, etc.

i would say that if something can't be easily stuck inside of a backpack it's a safe bet that a person wouldn't try to steal it out of the airport. "cooler" sized is surely a win. "briefcase" sized may not be perfect, but it's surely better than the "typical" pistol case.

and, while security through obscurity is by no means a proper route of achieving your protection, it can certainly help to augment it as one layer. i know people who will use an ugly, stained, dirtbag looking duffel acquired at a thrift store or homeless shelter shop just for the purpose of checking their hard case luggage. guns in a small, unlocked case... this case inside of nice, heavy, locked hard luggage... hard luggage placed at the last minute inside of dirtbag hobo luggage.

unscrupulous baggage handlers often have only minutes (or maybe a half hour max) to decide what they want to attempt to steal... which bags they target have a lot to do with (a) how sturdy and secure they look and (b) how lucrative they look. often, one column can help to outweigh the other. i opt for the super-heavy duty luggage and the "fuck off" padlocks... it's clear that something of value is in there, but no one could ever get at it. some people will use less than ideal sized luggage (like smaller gun cases) but put them within "not worth stealing" type of outer bags. it's all relative.

[Melesse]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Out of curiousity, what are the minimum measurements you would consider for a box shipping a pistol with you on an airline? Briefcase sized? Cooler sized?

M.

[noid]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Not looking to start a political discussion but I'm finally starting to understand why people get so insane about 2nd amendment stuff. What a cluster fuck of rules, counter rules, and regulations. You need a law degree to figure this stuff out. The companies themselves I don't think are all the sure either.

xor

Yup and frequently the agents of enforcement know even less..

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Looks like UPS will take them person to person.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res...h_phr=firearms

xor

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Not looking to start a political discussion but I'm finally starting to understand why people get so insane about 2nd amendment stuff. What a cluster fuck of rules, counter rules, and regulations. You need a law degree to figure this stuff out. The companies themselves I don't think are all the sure either.

xor

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Mine is keyed, but is also capable of being sealed with padlocks. Get some of the TSA ones that Deviant recommended a while back.

Speaking of which, I was down at Cabelas today and picked up a Secure It case like CHS had at LayerOne. They were selling them for 20 bucks.

I want to put my 1911, ammo, & my DSLR inside the case and am also thinking about shipping the case & contents out to the Riv rather than deal with the airlines. The case inside my luggage will put me over weight anyway, so I'm going to get charged either way. I would rather deal with Fed-ex and get insurance then the airline and associated hassle and not. The only problem is how do I ship out on Sunday. I wonder if the business office is open or if the hotel will ship it out for me the following day.

The only thing I'm concerned about is the security at the Riv's business office; which didn't seem all the great last time I was there. It is a Casino so cameras every where. But a large baseball cap could easily disguise a face.

I'm going to get more information from the Riv on Monday and will post what I find out. Here is what I've been able to find so far.

xor

http://www.rivierahotel.com/_files/p...price_list.pdf

Fed-ex:

Firearms

1. FedEx Express will transport and deliver firearms as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:

1. Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or

2. Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).

2. If your shipment contains firearms, select the Direct Signature Required or Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option, depending on the requirements of your shipment. See the Delivery Signature Options section for details. Firearms shipments are not eligible for signature release or indirect delivery.

3. Firearms must be shipped via FedEx Priority Overnight service. FedEx Express cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D. Firearms shipments cannot be placed in a FedEx Express Drop Box.

4. Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Express is required to notify FedEx Express that the package contains a firearm. The outside of the package must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package contains a firearm.

5. The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law.

6. The shipper and recipient are required to comply with all applicable government regulations and laws, including those pertaining to labeling. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can provide assistance.

7. FedEx Express will transport ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Dangerous Goods section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as dangerous goods. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

[noid]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

Mine is keyed, but is also capable of being sealed with padlocks. Get some of the TSA ones that Deviant recommended a while back.

Speaking of which, I was down at Cabelas today and picked up a Secure It case like CHS had at LayerOne. They were selling them for 20 bucks.

[xor]

Re: Gun Cases (split from general interest thread)

I have a 1490 for my GSG-5PK and its pretty damn slick. Would definitely be good for a 1911 and accouterments. As with all my cases I go with the unofficial DEFCON supplier Cases 4 Less. They should give us a discount with the amount of Pelican cases DT buys.

So keys or TSA padlocks....? The one you recommended I noticed was keyed.

xor